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About new killer's problems

Luven
Luven Member Posts: 41
edited August 2018 in General Discussions

First, sorry about my bad English but I really have to tell my opinion.
I really liked playing DBD and I loved it.
BUT I've loved Dead by daylight until the new killer comes out.

I love her blue skin, broken joints, luxuriant hair, and the fact that the father who killed her isn't the killer.
When I saw the new killer, I was disappointed to DBD developers.
So far, DBD developers hasn't given a sexual objectification to female characters. ( Hag is stripped but does not feel sexual because she does not look human. )

I mean, why did you give her a sexual objectification? She looks almost like a corpse.
Her trailer, her body, her body-painting bandages ( If you were gonna put on a bandage, you should have done it like wraith), her lack back story unlike other killers , breast bouncing, her standing motion are terrible ideas.

I even thought DBD developers were different from those who designed the huntress, nurse, and hag.
Don't ask me why I didn't say anything about David. He's a fighter. His clothes are not out of character and doesn't have sex appeal. So don't mention it. But she's dead. Why is the mutilation murdered daughter wearing only a bandage ( even little )? You said she was a college student. Why didn't you put her in normal clothes? If you were gonna put a bandage on her, you should have put more bandages on her.

Well, there's a lot of people out here in the debate saying that it's crazy to see dead bodies sexually, and they're telling her she's sexy. It's ironic, isn't it? I've always thanked you for giving us a variety of back story and no sexual designs even they were female killer. But now, you are not. At least you need to modify her costumes and get rid of her breast bouncing ( Kate too ). Lastly, you will need to add more back stories to support her.

Because you're smart, I'm sure you understand. If she come to original server like this, I will be really angry and quit playing games with disappointed mind ( to DBD developers ). It's not a threat, it's a notification. You've done a great job so far, and I hope this time you can improve. I want you to go back to your original mind ( initial DBD ) , and don't lose it. I hope it's an opportunity for you to reflect on yourself.

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  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

  • thekiller490490
    thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,164
    edited August 2018
    I mean, it's a M rated game right? So I guess the devs are going to need to put partial nudity in the rating. ;)
  • CallMeRusty420
    CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615
    edited August 2018

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @thekiller490490 said:
    I mean, it's a M rated game. I guess the devs are going to need to put partial nudity in the rating. ;)

    Do you think I'm pointing out that she's naked? I think you need to understand my writing better. And you seem to be absolutely justified by M-rated games.I tried to look good on the new character, but there were so many problems.

  • thekiller490490
    thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,164
    Buddy come on get the joke. It's is kinda odd for BHVR to do this kinda stuff but I don't really mind. I don't really know what to say.
  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2018

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @thekiller490490 said:
    Buddy come on get the joke. It's is kinda odd for BHVR to do this kinda stuff but I don't really mind. I don't really know what to say.

    You don't mind. I'm going to care. If you don't know what to say, don't. You'll get tired.

  • CallMeRusty420
    CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615
    edited August 2018

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    So what is this problem? That people think that a character in a video game is sexy? Over the years of gaming there has been countless titles that have had 'sexy' undead characters and no one had an issue with those. Like I think the skin exposure on the Spirit actually adds to the creepiness. Seeing skin that's blue is unnerving. Like I don't think it's an issue for people to find a game character sexy. And what about the people that find Huntress sexy even though she's a demented killer? So just because she's not undead it's ok? I just honestly think this 'problem' that you're trying to dig up is nothing more than a personal problem if anything.

  • thekiller490490
    thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,164
    K bye
  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @thekiller490490 said:
    K bye

    That's great. It's not worth answering.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    So what is this problem? That people think that a character in a video game is sexy? Over the years of gaming there has been countless titles that have had 'sexy' undead characters and no one had an issue with those. Like I think the skin exposure on the Spirit actually adds to the creepiness. Seeing skin that's blue is unnerving. Like I don't think it's an issue for people to find a game character sexy. And what about the people that find Huntress sexy even though she's a demented killer? So just because she's not undead it's ok? I just honestly think this 'problem' that you're trying to dig up is nothing more than a personal problem if anything.

    Please, I've never played such a game and I'm just pointing out that the game I've been playing has that problem. I would point it out again if it was another game I was playing. And I've always thought there was a problem with sexy undead. When they gave her sexiness, I wouldn't say anything if they gave breast bouncing to male character who has big breast. Blue skin is not a problem. The problem is she looks like a corpse and gives her sexiness. And many articles already say she's sexy. Huntress doesn't look like a corpse, and Huntress doesn't wear only a few bandages like her. It's not a problem to tell her she's sexy. There are already quite a few comments about her problems that I have written about, to say my opinion is personal.

  • CallMeRusty420
    CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    So what is this problem? That people think that a character in a video game is sexy? Over the years of gaming there has been countless titles that have had 'sexy' undead characters and no one had an issue with those. Like I think the skin exposure on the Spirit actually adds to the creepiness. Seeing skin that's blue is unnerving. Like I don't think it's an issue for people to find a game character sexy. And what about the people that find Huntress sexy even though she's a demented killer? So just because she's not undead it's ok? I just honestly think this 'problem' that you're trying to dig up is nothing more than a personal problem if anything.

    Please, I've never played such a game and I'm just pointing out that the game I've been playing has that problem. I would point it out again if it was another game I was playing. And I've always thought there was a problem with sexy undead. When they gave her sexiness, I wouldn't say anything if they gave breast bouncing to male character who has big breast. Blue skin is not a problem. The problem is she looks like a corpse and gives her sexiness. And many articles already say she's sexy. Huntress doesn't look like a corpse, and Huntress doesn't wear only a few bandages like her. It's not a problem to tell her she's sexy. There are already quite a few comments about her problems that I have written about, to say my opinion is personal.

    So. In other words. This is a personal problem for you to deal with. Gotcha.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    Yikes will it ever end, how many acc will you guys create
  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2018

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    So what is this problem? That people think that a character in a video game is sexy? Over the years of gaming there has been countless titles that have had 'sexy' undead characters and no one had an issue with those. Like I think the skin exposure on the Spirit actually adds to the creepiness. Seeing skin that's blue is unnerving. Like I don't think it's an issue for people to find a game character sexy. And what about the people that find Huntress sexy even though she's a demented killer? So just because she's not undead it's ok? I just honestly think this 'problem' that you're trying to dig up is nothing more than a personal problem if anything.

    Please, I've never played such a game and I'm just pointing out that the game I've been playing has that problem. I would point it out again if it was another game I was playing. And I've always thought there was a problem with sexy undead. When they gave her sexiness, I wouldn't say anything if they gave breast bouncing to male character who has big breast. Blue skin is not a problem. The problem is she looks like a corpse and gives her sexiness. And many articles already say she's sexy. Huntress doesn't look like a corpse, and Huntress doesn't wear only a few bandages like her. It's not a problem to tell her she's sexy. There are already quite a few comments about her problems that I have written about, to say my opinion is personal.

    So. In other words. This is a personal problem for you to deal with. Gotcha.

    What are you saying, you really don't understand my post. If it means so, the translation would be wrong. I never said I was personal. I'm surprised when you talk to me, your understanding is so bad. It's not a personal matter already. You just didn't intend to discuss this. Honestly, this isn't going to take you seriously at all.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @Master said:
    Yikes will it ever end, how many acc will you guys create

    Do you think this is a light problem?

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Luven said:
    First, sorry about my bad English but I really have to tell my opinion.
    I really liked playing DBD and I loved it.
    BUT I've loved Dead by daylight until the new killer comes out.

    I love her blue skin, broken joints, luxuriant hair, and the fact that the father who killed her isn't the killer.
    When I saw the new killer, I was disappointed to DBD developers.
    So far, DBD developers hasn't given a sexual objectification to female characters. ( Hag is stripped but does not feel sexual because she does not look human. )

    I mean, why did you give her a sexual objectification? She looks almost like a corpse.
    Her trailer, her body, her body-painting bandages ( If you were gonna put on a bandage, you should have done it like wraith), her lack back story unlike other killers , breast bouncing, her standing motion are terrible ideas.

    I even thought DBD developers were different from those who designed the huntress, nurse, and hag.
    Don't ask me why I didn't say anything about David. He's a fighter. His clothes are not out of character and doesn't have sex appeal. So don't mention it. But she's dead. Why is the mutilation murdered daughter wearing only a bandage ( even little )? You said she was a college student. Why didn't you put her in normal clothes? If you were gonna put a bandage on her, you should have put more bandages on her.

    Well, there's a lot of people out here in the debate saying that it's crazy to see dead bodies sexually, and they're telling her she's sexy. It's ironic, isn't it? I've always thanked you for giving us a variety of back story and no sexual designs even they were female killer. But now, you are not. At least you need to modify her costumes and get rid of her breast bouncing ( Kate too ). Lastly, you will need to add more back stories to support her.

    Because you're smart, I'm sure you understand. If she come to original server like this, I will be really angry and quit playing games with disappointed mind ( to DBD developers ). It's not a threat, it's a notification. You've done a great job so far, and I hope this time you can improve. I want you to go back to your original mind ( initial DBD ) , and don't lose it. I hope it's an opportunity for you to reflect on yourself.

    Did you just assumed it's gender, you white, CIS heterosexual binary catcholic right wing male?

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    edited August 2018
    Luven said:

    @Master said:
    Yikes will it ever end, how many acc will you guys create

    Do you think this is a light problem?

    I can't see a problem besides the balancing issues 
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    RSB said:

    @Luven said:
    First, sorry about my bad English but I really have to tell my opinion.
    I really liked playing DBD and I loved it.
    BUT I've loved Dead by daylight until the new killer comes out.

    I love her blue skin, broken joints, luxuriant hair, and the fact that the father who killed her isn't the killer.
    When I saw the new killer, I was disappointed to DBD developers.
    So far, DBD developers hasn't given a sexual objectification to female characters. ( Hag is stripped but does not feel sexual because she does not look human. )

    I mean, why did you give her a sexual objectification? She looks almost like a corpse.
    Her trailer, her body, her body-painting bandages ( If you were gonna put on a bandage, you should have done it like wraith), her lack back story unlike other killers , breast bouncing, her standing motion are terrible ideas.

    I even thought DBD developers were different from those who designed the huntress, nurse, and hag.
    Don't ask me why I didn't say anything about David. He's a fighter. His clothes are not out of character and doesn't have sex appeal. So don't mention it. But she's dead. Why is the mutilation murdered daughter wearing only a bandage ( even little )? You said she was a college student. Why didn't you put her in normal clothes? If you were gonna put a bandage on her, you should have put more bandages on her.

    Well, there's a lot of people out here in the debate saying that it's crazy to see dead bodies sexually, and they're telling her she's sexy. It's ironic, isn't it? I've always thanked you for giving us a variety of back story and no sexual designs even they were female killer. But now, you are not. At least you need to modify her costumes and get rid of her breast bouncing ( Kate too ). Lastly, you will need to add more back stories to support her.

    Because you're smart, I'm sure you understand. If she come to original server like this, I will be really angry and quit playing games with disappointed mind ( to DBD developers ). It's not a threat, it's a notification. You've done a great job so far, and I hope this time you can improve. I want you to go back to your original mind ( initial DBD ) , and don't lose it. I hope it's an opportunity for you to reflect on yourself.

    Did you just assumed it's gender, you white, CIS heterosexual binary catcholic right wing male?

    And this in 2018... :wink:
  • 245_Trioxin
    245_Trioxin Member Posts: 171

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    So what is this problem? That people think that a character in a video game is sexy? Over the years of gaming there has been countless titles that have had 'sexy' undead characters and no one had an issue with those. Like I think the skin exposure on the Spirit actually adds to the creepiness. Seeing skin that's blue is unnerving. Like I don't think it's an issue for people to find a game character sexy. And what about the people that find Huntress sexy even though she's a demented killer? So just because she's not undead it's ok? I just honestly think this 'problem' that you're trying to dig up is nothing more than a personal problem if anything.

    Please, I've never played such a game and I'm just pointing out that the game I've been playing has that problem. I would point it out again if it was another game I was playing. And I've always thought there was a problem with sexy undead. When they gave her sexiness, I wouldn't say anything if they gave breast bouncing to male character who has big breast. Blue skin is not a problem. The problem is she looks like a corpse and gives her sexiness. And many articles already say she's sexy. Huntress doesn't look like a corpse, and Huntress doesn't wear only a few bandages like her. It's not a problem to tell her she's sexy. There are already quite a few comments about her problems that I have written about, to say my opinion is personal.

    So. In other words. This is a personal problem for you to deal with. Gotcha.

    What are you saying, you really don't understand my post. If it means so, the translation would be wrong. I never said I was personal. I'm surprised when you talk to me, your understanding is so bad. It's not a personal matter already. You just didn't intend to discuss this. Honestly, this isn't going to take you seriously at all.

    Allow me to explain.

    Nobody cares about your personal moral dilemma.
    Nobody cares if you play the game or not.

    At the end of the day, the majority of DbD players are not objectifying the new killer. But, your little group of extremists are.

    You are the sexist here, nobody else.

    Please stop trying to inject your ideology into the game. Just run on back to Tumblr.

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270

    If it's any consolation, I'm sure sooner or later some awesome skins will come out for her. Giving more coverage to make the prudes happy :)
    But really, it's not a problem at all. A nice kimono would look better actually, but some partial nudity - it's completely ok.
    And, as someone said above: how on can you think that partly uncovered breasts and buttocks should be taboo, but insane gore and violence not??? Don't want to be mean, but it doesn't make sense. Please think it over. No offense meant, and have fun playing.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @Master said:
    Luven said:

    @Master said:

    Yikes will it ever end, how many acc will you guys create

    Do you think this is a light problem?

    I can't see a problem besides the balancing issues 

    Then I think you're the problem.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @245_Trioxin said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    So what is this problem? That people think that a character in a video game is sexy? Over the years of gaming there has been countless titles that have had 'sexy' undead characters and no one had an issue with those. Like I think the skin exposure on the Spirit actually adds to the creepiness. Seeing skin that's blue is unnerving. Like I don't think it's an issue for people to find a game character sexy. And what about the people that find Huntress sexy even though she's a demented killer? So just because she's not undead it's ok? I just honestly think this 'problem' that you're trying to dig up is nothing more than a personal problem if anything.

    Please, I've never played such a game and I'm just pointing out that the game I've been playing has that problem. I would point it out again if it was another game I was playing. And I've always thought there was a problem with sexy undead. When they gave her sexiness, I wouldn't say anything if they gave breast bouncing to male character who has big breast. Blue skin is not a problem. The problem is she looks like a corpse and gives her sexiness. And many articles already say she's sexy. Huntress doesn't look like a corpse, and Huntress doesn't wear only a few bandages like her. It's not a problem to tell her she's sexy. There are already quite a few comments about her problems that I have written about, to say my opinion is personal.

    So. In other words. This is a personal problem for you to deal with. Gotcha.

    What are you saying, you really don't understand my post. If it means so, the translation would be wrong. I never said I was personal. I'm surprised when you talk to me, your understanding is so bad. It's not a personal matter already. You just didn't intend to discuss this. Honestly, this isn't going to take you seriously at all.

    Allow me to explain.

    Nobody cares about your personal moral dilemma.
    Nobody cares if you play the game or not.

    At the end of the day, the majority of DbD players are not objectifying the new killer. But, your little group of extremists are.

    You are the sexist here, nobody else.

    Please stop trying to inject your ideology into the game. Just run on back to Tumblr.

    Well, if you've looked at this Forum properly, you know I'm not the only one to discuss it. And I'm a sexist? I'm talking about gender equality, you're the sexist. You're right that you didn't really understand my post. And yes, no one would care about me quitting. But what I want to talk about through this is that it's a serious problem that makes a user stop playing games. I don't want them to be interested in me quitting. And I don't do Tumblr.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @Luven said:
    Well, if you've looked at this Forum properly, you know I'm not the only one to discuss it. And I'm a sexist? I'm talking about gender equality, you're the sexist. You're right that you didn't really understand my post. And yes, no one would care about me quitting. But what I want to talk about through this is that it's a serious problem that makes a user stop playing games. I don't want them to be interested in me quitting. And I don't do Tumblr.

    Guys I'm objectifying this chick based on her looks, but I'm not a sexist I swear.

    In fact you're the sexist for disagreeing with me.

    Get the ######### outta here lol.

  • 245_Trioxin
    245_Trioxin Member Posts: 171

    @Luven said:

    @245_Trioxin said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    So what is this problem? That people think that a character in a video game is sexy? Over the years of gaming there has been countless titles that have had 'sexy' undead characters and no one had an issue with those. Like I think the skin exposure on the Spirit actually adds to the creepiness. Seeing skin that's blue is unnerving. Like I don't think it's an issue for people to find a game character sexy. And what about the people that find Huntress sexy even though she's a demented killer? So just because she's not undead it's ok? I just honestly think this 'problem' that you're trying to dig up is nothing more than a personal problem if anything.

    Please, I've never played such a game and I'm just pointing out that the game I've been playing has that problem. I would point it out again if it was another game I was playing. And I've always thought there was a problem with sexy undead. When they gave her sexiness, I wouldn't say anything if they gave breast bouncing to male character who has big breast. Blue skin is not a problem. The problem is she looks like a corpse and gives her sexiness. And many articles already say she's sexy. Huntress doesn't look like a corpse, and Huntress doesn't wear only a few bandages like her. It's not a problem to tell her she's sexy. There are already quite a few comments about her problems that I have written about, to say my opinion is personal.

    So. In other words. This is a personal problem for you to deal with. Gotcha.

    What are you saying, you really don't understand my post. If it means so, the translation would be wrong. I never said I was personal. I'm surprised when you talk to me, your understanding is so bad. It's not a personal matter already. You just didn't intend to discuss this. Honestly, this isn't going to take you seriously at all.

    Allow me to explain.

    Nobody cares about your personal moral dilemma.
    Nobody cares if you play the game or not.

    At the end of the day, the majority of DbD players are not objectifying the new killer. But, your little group of extremists are.

    You are the sexist here, nobody else.

    Please stop trying to inject your ideology into the game. Just run on back to Tumblr.

    Well, if you've looked at this Forum properly, you know I'm not the only one to discuss it. And I'm a sexist? I'm talking about gender equality, you're the sexist. You're right that you didn't really understand my post. And yes, no one would care about me quitting. But what I want to talk about through this is that it's a serious problem that makes a user stop playing games. I don't want them to be interested in me quitting. And I don't do Tumblr.

    Yes, you are sexist. You (and your little group of extremists on here) are looking at this character strictly through the lens of sex. Nobody else is doing that. Which is the problem with feminism, intersectionality, and identity politics as a whole.

    You think you are fighting for equality, when you are actually trying to gain power and influence. You try to fight racism and sexism at every turn, because everything you see is racist or sexist. This is because you are focused on seeing things based on race or sex, making you both racist and sexist.

    What you are following is an ideology. A religion that replaces God with women. That cites intersectionality as it's ten commandments, and decries the "Patriarchy" as it's Devil.

    You need to take a look at what you are spouting with a critical eye and realize that you are just a set of talking points with no critical thought behind them. You have become the mouth piece for racism and sexism.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2018

    @George_Soros said:
    If it's any consolation, I'm sure sooner or later some awesome skins will come out for her. Giving more coverage to make the prudes happy :)
    But really, it's not a problem at all. A nice kimono would look better actually, but some partial nudity - it's completely ok.
    And, as someone said above: how on can you think that partly uncovered breasts and buttocks should be taboo, but insane gore and violence not??? Don't want to be mean, but it doesn't make sense. Please think it over. No offense meant, and have fun playing.

    I saw her new skin, too. I like that skin, too. I'd rather it be released as her basic skin. I want you to know that I'm not just pointing at her nude. Do you know why I posted this post on this Forum? I love this game, so I wanted them to take the right path.

  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767
    edited August 2018

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    ######### are you saying.
    Should we wear burqas on the beach, or what? Sounds like a religion, haha.

    I don't feel anything for the spirit, maybe because I am not into women that much, I can't vouch for everyone else.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @Luven said:
    Well, if you've looked at this Forum properly, you know I'm not the only one to discuss it. And I'm a sexist? I'm talking about gender equality, you're the sexist. You're right that you didn't really understand my post. And yes, no one would care about me quitting. But what I want to talk about through this is that it's a serious problem that makes a user stop playing games. I don't want them to be interested in me quitting. And I don't do Tumblr.

    Guys I'm objectifying this chick based on her looks, but I'm not a sexist I swear.

    In fact you're the sexist for disagreeing with me.

    Get the [BAD WORD] outta here lol.

    It's really ridiculous. Now you're not logical and you're an idiot whining that I'm a sexist. You really don't know who the sexist is. It would be no problem to you to be light enough to act like this.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    ######### are you saying.
    Should we wear burqas on the beach, or what? Sounds like a religion, haha.

    I don't feel anything for the spirit, maybe because I am not into women that much, I can't vouch for everyone else.

    What are you talking about? Do you think women dress that way to make them look good to you? They want to wear it that way. Not because I want to be your eye food. I can't believe what you said. Do women have to dress that way on the beach because of your eyes? You're not interested in women and you talk so easily. Don't go anywhere and say such a shocking thing, it's awful. There's no guarantee that you don't feel anything about spirit, even for others. I've already seen a bunch of guys who say she's sexy.

  • 245_Trioxin
    245_Trioxin Member Posts: 171

    @Luven said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    ######### are you saying.
    Should we wear burqas on the beach, or what? Sounds like a religion, haha.

    I don't feel anything for the spirit, maybe because I am not into women that much, I can't vouch for everyone else.

    What are you talking about? Do you think women dress that way to make them look good to you? They want to wear it that way. Not because I want to be your eye food. I can't believe what you said. Do women have to dress that way on the beach because of your eyes? You're not interested in women and you talk so easily. Don't go anywhere and say such a shocking thing, it's awful. There's no guarantee that you don't feel anything about spirit, even for others. I've already seen a bunch of guys who say she's sexy.

    Your moral policing is getting boring.

    Why do you care if someone says that a cartoon character is sexy? Hell, why do you care if anyone finds anyone sexy?

    You do not have the right to silence other people's opinions because you find them to be wrongthink.

    Again, this is a fictional character in a video game that you are crying over. You need to recheck your priorities.

  • ppark
    ppark Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2018

    your opinion Acknowledge. David? he's chest? no dead body.
    He can wear it or take it off. Nobody cares. sexy? hum... i don't know. just fighter.

  • ppark
    ppark Member Posts: 2

    maybe This opportunity is my chance. no play dead by daylight. right?

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Luven said:
    First, sorry about my bad English but I really have to tell my opinion.
    I really liked playing DBD and I loved it.
    BUT I've loved Dead by daylight until the new killer comes out.

    I love her blue skin, broken joints, luxuriant hair, and the fact that the father who killed her isn't the killer.
    When I saw the new killer, I was disappointed to DBD developers.
    So far, DBD developers hasn't given a sexual objectification to female characters. ( Hag is stripped but does not feel sexual because she does not look human. )

    I mean, why did you give her a sexual objectification? She looks almost like a corpse.
    Her trailer, her body, her body-painting bandages ( If you were gonna put on a bandage, you should have done it like wraith), her lack back story unlike other killers , breast bouncing, her standing motion are terrible ideas.

    I even thought DBD developers were different from those who designed the huntress, nurse, and hag.
    Don't ask me why I didn't say anything about David. He's a fighter. His clothes are not out of character and doesn't have sex appeal. So don't mention it. But she's dead. Why is the mutilation murdered daughter wearing only a bandage ( even little )? You said she was a college student. Why didn't you put her in normal clothes? If you were gonna put a bandage on her, you should have put more bandages on her.

    Well, there's a lot of people out here in the debate saying that it's crazy to see dead bodies sexually, and they're telling her she's sexy. It's ironic, isn't it? I've always thanked you for giving us a variety of back story and no sexual designs even they were female killer. But now, you are not. At least you need to modify her costumes and get rid of her breast bouncing ( Kate too ). Lastly, you will need to add more back stories to support her.

    Because you're smart, I'm sure you understand. If she come to original server like this, I will be really angry and quit playing games with disappointed mind ( to DBD developers ). It's not a threat, it's a notification. You've done a great job so far, and I hope this time you can improve. I want you to go back to your original mind ( initial DBD ) , and don't lose it. I hope it's an opportunity for you to reflect on yourself.

    Please dont assume its gender.
    In fact devs hint that new killer is a transgender:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/editor/ge/nurkk4t9ppdd.png

    So if you wanna start with this SJW stuff, please be political correct at least :wink:

  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767

    @Luven said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    ######### are you saying.
    Should we wear burqas on the beach, or what? Sounds like a religion, haha.

    I don't feel anything for the spirit, maybe because I am not into women that much, I can't vouch for everyone else.

    What are you talking about? Do you think women dress that way to make them look good to you? They want to wear it that way. Not because I want to be your eye food. I can't believe what you said. Do women have to dress that way on the beach because of your eyes? You're not interested in women and you talk so easily. Don't go anywhere and say such a shocking thing, it's awful. There's no guarantee that you don't feel anything about spirit, even for others. I've already seen a bunch of guys who say she's sexy.

    So if the spirit likes it that way, why do you judge the devs to dress her like that?
    Your logic is flawed.

  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    @Luven Just curious, if this was an overweight female, would that be ok? Because it is a skinny female, that makes it sexual objectification? Also, its ok to sexually objectify a male character like they did with Ace and his porn mustache and his oh so sexy tight shorts and leopard print shirt that is button down so we can see his delicious chest.........ok, sorry, my mind wandered for a second. Basically what you are informing us is you are a hypocrite, a sexist towards men and a body shamer. Ok, gotcha. Thanks for playing.

  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    Go away
  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2018

    @245_Trioxin said:

    @Luven said:

    @245_Trioxin said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    So what is this problem? That people think that a character in a video game is sexy? Over the years of gaming there has been countless titles that have had 'sexy' undead characters and no one had an issue with those. Like I think the skin exposure on the Spirit actually adds to the creepiness. Seeing skin that's blue is unnerving. Like I don't think it's an issue for people to find a game character sexy. And what about the people that find Huntress sexy even though she's a demented killer? So just because she's not undead it's ok? I just honestly think this 'problem' that you're trying to dig up is nothing more than a personal problem if anything.

    Please, I've never played such a game and I'm just pointing out that the game I've been playing has that problem. I would point it out again if it was another game I was playing. And I've always thought there was a problem with sexy undead. When they gave her sexiness, I wouldn't say anything if they gave breast bouncing to male character who has big breast. Blue skin is not a problem. The problem is she looks like a corpse and gives her sexiness. And many articles already say she's sexy. Huntress doesn't look like a corpse, and Huntress doesn't wear only a few bandages like her. It's not a problem to tell her she's sexy. There are already quite a few comments about her problems that I have written about, to say my opinion is personal.

    So. In other words. This is a personal problem for you to deal with. Gotcha.

    What are you saying, you really don't understand my post. If it means so, the translation would be wrong. I never said I was personal. I'm surprised when you talk to me, your understanding is so bad. It's not a personal matter already. You just didn't intend to discuss this. Honestly, this isn't going to take you seriously at all.

    Allow me to explain.

    Nobody cares about your personal moral dilemma.
    Nobody cares if you play the game or not.

    At the end of the day, the majority of DbD players are not objectifying the new killer. But, your little group of extremists are.

    You are the sexist here, nobody else.

    Please stop trying to inject your ideology into the game. Just run on back to Tumblr.

    Well, if you've looked at this Forum properly, you know I'm not the only one to discuss it. And I'm a sexist? I'm talking about gender equality, you're the sexist. You're right that you didn't really understand my post. And yes, no one would care about me quitting. But what I want to talk about through this is that it's a serious problem that makes a user stop playing games. I don't want them to be interested in me quitting. And I don't do Tumblr.

    Yes, you are sexist. You (and your little group of extremists on here) are looking at this character strictly through the lens of sex. Nobody else is doing that. Which is the problem with feminism, intersectionality, and identity politics as a whole.

    You think you are fighting for equality, when you are actually trying to gain power and influence. You try to fight racism and sexism at every turn, because everything you see is racist or sexist. This is because you are focused on seeing things based on race or sex, making you both racist and sexist.

    What you are following is an ideology. A religion that replaces God with women. That cites intersectionality as it's ten commandments, and decries the "Patriarchy" as it's Devil.

    You need to take a look at what you are spouting with a critical eye and realize that you are just a set of talking points with no critical thought behind them. You have become the mouth piece for racism and sexism.

    Am I seeing her sexually? I asked you repeatedly if you read my post correctly. This is problematic because there was someone who called her sexy. And I've seen them all over the place. You're rather sexist because you don't recognize it. Not me. If you took this matter seriously, you wouldn't have been sexist. Look at the world. You're falling behind.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Go away

    YOU TOO

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @Master said:

    @Luven said:
    First, sorry about my bad English but I really have to tell my opinion.
    I really liked playing DBD and I loved it.
    BUT I've loved Dead by daylight until the new killer comes out.

    I love her blue skin, broken joints, luxuriant hair, and the fact that the father who killed her isn't the killer.
    When I saw the new killer, I was disappointed to DBD developers.
    So far, DBD developers hasn't given a sexual objectification to female characters. ( Hag is stripped but does not feel sexual because she does not look human. )

    I mean, why did you give her a sexual objectification? She looks almost like a corpse.
    Her trailer, her body, her body-painting bandages ( If you were gonna put on a bandage, you should have done it like wraith), her lack back story unlike other killers , breast bouncing, her standing motion are terrible ideas.

    I even thought DBD developers were different from those who designed the huntress, nurse, and hag.
    Don't ask me why I didn't say anything about David. He's a fighter. His clothes are not out of character and doesn't have sex appeal. So don't mention it. But she's dead. Why is the mutilation murdered daughter wearing only a bandage ( even little )? You said she was a college student. Why didn't you put her in normal clothes? If you were gonna put a bandage on her, you should have put more bandages on her.

    Well, there's a lot of people out here in the debate saying that it's crazy to see dead bodies sexually, and they're telling her she's sexy. It's ironic, isn't it? I've always thanked you for giving us a variety of back story and no sexual designs even they were female killer. But now, you are not. At least you need to modify her costumes and get rid of her breast bouncing ( Kate too ). Lastly, you will need to add more back stories to support her.

    Because you're smart, I'm sure you understand. If she come to original server like this, I will be really angry and quit playing games with disappointed mind ( to DBD developers ). It's not a threat, it's a notification. You've done a great job so far, and I hope this time you can improve. I want you to go back to your original mind ( initial DBD ) , and don't lose it. I hope it's an opportunity for you to reflect on yourself.

    Please dont assume its gender.
    In fact devs hint that new killer is a transgender:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/editor/ge/nurkk4t9ppdd.png

    So if you wanna start with this SJW stuff, please be political correct at least :wink:

    So, even if she's transgender, does the problem go away?

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @Luven said:
    Because you're smart, I'm sure you understand. If she come to original server like this, I will be really angry and quit playing games with disappointed mind ( to DBD developers ). It's not a threat, it's a notification. You've done a great job so far, and I hope this time you can improve. I want you to go back to your original mind ( initial DBD ) , and don't lose it. I hope it's an opportunity for you to reflect on yourself.

    I can say that the nurse, hag, huntress looks sexy and apparently that is fine, but just because this character looks sexy apparently it is a no no. The hypocrisy is real with you.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Luven said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    ######### are you saying.
    Should we wear burqas on the beach, or what? Sounds like a religion, haha.

    I don't feel anything for the spirit, maybe because I am not into women that much, I can't vouch for everyone else.

    What are you talking about? Do you think women dress that way to make them look good to you? They want to wear it that way. Not because I want to be your eye food. I can't believe what you said. Do women have to dress that way on the beach because of your eyes? You're not interested in women and you talk so easily. Don't go anywhere and say such a shocking thing, it's awful. There's no guarantee that you don't feel anything about spirit, even for others. I've already seen a bunch of guys who say she's sexy.

    So if the spirit likes it that way, why do you judge the devs to dress her like that?
    Your logic is flawed.

    I never said I liked her clothes. I never said I liked everything about her. Get it straight.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @lasombra1979 said:
    @Luven Just curious, if this was an overweight female, would that be ok? Because it is a skinny female, that makes it sexual objectification? Also, its ok to sexually objectify a male character like they did with Ace and his porn mustache and his oh so sexy tight shorts and leopard print shirt that is button down so we can see his delicious chest.........ok, sorry, my mind wandered for a second. Basically what you are informing us is you are a hypocrite, a sexist towards men and a body shamer. Ok, gotcha. Thanks for playing.

    No, it shouldn't be justified even if she's overweight. Not because she's skinny. And does Ace's clothes go against his character? Is he exposing himself like Spirit, or is his breast bouncing?

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @ppark said:
    maybe This opportunity is my chance. no play dead by daylight. right?

    That's stupid, it's not a problem for me to stop playing games. One user who really liked DBD has quit playing games, so let them know that this is a serious problem.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2018

    @ppark said:
    your opinion Acknowledge. David? he's chest? no dead body.
    He can wear it or take it off. Nobody cares. sexy? hum... i don't know. just fighter.

    Let me ask you this question for you who are stupid. Is it against his character that he dresses like that? Spirit was an ordinary college student, but since she died and survived, why was she wearing only bandages? Only on your chest and hips. Even the bandage on the hip was almost body-painting unlike the Wraith. You haven't read this post properly, so don't reveal that you're stupid. That's probably your best interest. I'm sick of it. There are a lot of people who don't understand the post properly.

  • 245_Trioxin
    245_Trioxin Member Posts: 171

    @Luven said:

    @245_Trioxin said:

    @Luven said:

    @245_Trioxin said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    So what is this problem? That people think that a character in a video game is sexy? Over the years of gaming there has been countless titles that have had 'sexy' undead characters and no one had an issue with those. Like I think the skin exposure on the Spirit actually adds to the creepiness. Seeing skin that's blue is unnerving. Like I don't think it's an issue for people to find a game character sexy. And what about the people that find Huntress sexy even though she's a demented killer? So just because she's not undead it's ok? I just honestly think this 'problem' that you're trying to dig up is nothing more than a personal problem if anything.

    Please, I've never played such a game and I'm just pointing out that the game I've been playing has that problem. I would point it out again if it was another game I was playing. And I've always thought there was a problem with sexy undead. When they gave her sexiness, I wouldn't say anything if they gave breast bouncing to male character who has big breast. Blue skin is not a problem. The problem is she looks like a corpse and gives her sexiness. And many articles already say she's sexy. Huntress doesn't look like a corpse, and Huntress doesn't wear only a few bandages like her. It's not a problem to tell her she's sexy. There are already quite a few comments about her problems that I have written about, to say my opinion is personal.

    So. In other words. This is a personal problem for you to deal with. Gotcha.

    What are you saying, you really don't understand my post. If it means so, the translation would be wrong. I never said I was personal. I'm surprised when you talk to me, your understanding is so bad. It's not a personal matter already. You just didn't intend to discuss this. Honestly, this isn't going to take you seriously at all.

    Allow me to explain.

    Nobody cares about your personal moral dilemma.
    Nobody cares if you play the game or not.

    At the end of the day, the majority of DbD players are not objectifying the new killer. But, your little group of extremists are.

    You are the sexist here, nobody else.

    Please stop trying to inject your ideology into the game. Just run on back to Tumblr.

    Well, if you've looked at this Forum properly, you know I'm not the only one to discuss it. And I'm a sexist? I'm talking about gender equality, you're the sexist. You're right that you didn't really understand my post. And yes, no one would care about me quitting. But what I want to talk about through this is that it's a serious problem that makes a user stop playing games. I don't want them to be interested in me quitting. And I don't do Tumblr.

    Yes, you are sexist. You (and your little group of extremists on here) are looking at this character strictly through the lens of sex. Nobody else is doing that. Which is the problem with feminism, intersectionality, and identity politics as a whole.

    You think you are fighting for equality, when you are actually trying to gain power and influence. You try to fight racism and sexism at every turn, because everything you see is racist or sexist. This is because you are focused on seeing things based on race or sex, making you both racist and sexist.

    What you are following is an ideology. A religion that replaces God with women. That cites intersectionality as it's ten commandments, and decries the "Patriarchy" as it's Devil.

    You need to take a look at what you are spouting with a critical eye and realize that you are just a set of talking points with no critical thought behind them. You have become the mouth piece for racism and sexism.

    Am I seeing her sexually? I asked you repeatedly if you read my post correctly. This is problematic because there was someone who called her sexy. And I've seen them all over the place. You're rather sexist because you don't recognize it. Not me. If you took this matter seriously, you wouldn't have been sexist. Look at the world. You're falling behind.

    That's not what sexism means. If you are going to try and use words, at least learn the definitions.

    Sexism is when you create opinions on things based purely on sex. Racism is when you create opinions on things purely on race.

    It would be sexist to think that someone is worthless because they are a man or a woman. It is also sexist to believe that someone should be given favoritism simply because they are a man or a woman. Which is what you are doing. You are weighing the need for changes to be made to the Spirit simply because she looks female. Therefore, you are a sexist.

    Let me put it another way, to hit the point home. You feel you need to protect women from "oppression" and "objectification" because they are weak and cannot protect themselves. If you thought that women are empowered, independent, and equal to men, then you wouldn't feel the need to go to the lengths that you do. So, again, you are a sexist.

    Women don't need protection, because they are already strong and independent. Cartoon women don't need protection because they are fictional.

    This isn't rocket science. It's pretty simple. Judge people based on their individual merits and don't play favorites.

    I'm not a sexist. I judge people based on their individual personalities and merits. I'll tell you right now that I am not judging you based on whether you are male or female, but I am judging you because you have no ability to think for yourself and just parrot the same neo-marxist, pro-communist talking points that all "progressives" do.

    Feminism isn't about equality. It's about control. You may want to read up on egalitarianism if you want to find a belief in equality.

  • Zarathos
    Zarathos Member Posts: 1,911

    @Luven said:
    First, sorry about my bad English but I really have to tell my opinion.
    I really liked playing DBD and I loved it.
    BUT I've loved Dead by daylight until the new killer comes out.

    I love her blue skin, broken joints, luxuriant hair, and the fact that the father who killed her isn't the killer.
    When I saw the new killer, I was disappointed to DBD developers.
    So far, DBD developers hasn't given a sexual objectification to female characters. ( Hag is stripped but does not feel sexual because she does not look human. )

    I mean, why did you give her a sexual objectification? She looks almost like a corpse.
    Her trailer, her body, her body-painting bandages ( If you were gonna put on a bandage, you should have done it like wraith), her lack back story unlike other killers , breast bouncing, her standing motion are terrible ideas.

    I even thought DBD developers were different from those who designed the huntress, nurse, and hag.
    Don't ask me why I didn't say anything about David. He's a fighter. His clothes are not out of character and doesn't have sex appeal. So don't mention it. But she's dead. Why is the mutilation murdered daughter wearing only a bandage ( even little )? You said she was a college student. Why didn't you put her in normal clothes? If you were gonna put a bandage on her, you should have put more bandages on her.

    Well, there's a lot of people out here in the debate saying that it's crazy to see dead bodies sexually, and they're telling her she's sexy. It's ironic, isn't it? I've always thanked you for giving us a variety of back story and no sexual designs even they were female killer. But now, you are not. At least you need to modify her costumes and get rid of her breast bouncing ( Kate too ). Lastly, you will need to add more back stories to support her.

    Because you're smart, I'm sure you understand. If she come to original server like this, I will be really angry and quit playing games with disappointed mind ( to DBD developers ). It's not a threat, it's a notification. You've done a great job so far, and I hope this time you can improve. I want you to go back to your original mind ( initial DBD ) , and don't lose it. I hope it's an opportunity for you to reflect on yourself.

    The horror genre roots run deep in uncomfortable topics unafraid of Exploring touchy subjects sextuality in all its form was the place many great horror movies are based on. The film "It follows" for instance. If you believe its exclusive to women you would be quite wrong. Watch the second nightmare on elm street if you want to see a story centered on a man who is given a lot of attention in scenes where hes barely clothed and is suffering an internal struggle. The bandages on the spirit do not cover her entirely as if it did it would not contain horrible body horror of shards of glass sticking out of her damaged body. Not only is her look terrifying but it is also a nice homage to the evil spirit design you would see in films like the grudge.

  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    Luven said:

    @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Go away

    YOU TOO

    Somebody needs to take a nap lol.
  • βLAKE
    βLAKE Member Posts: 544

    With a simple cost of $4.99 you can put some clothes on her :p

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Luven said:

    @lasombra1979 said:
    @Luven Just curious, if this was an overweight female, would that be ok? Because it is a skinny female, that makes it sexual objectification? Also, its ok to sexually objectify a male character like they did with Ace and his porn mustache and his oh so sexy tight shorts and leopard print shirt that is button down so we can see his delicious chest.........ok, sorry, my mind wandered for a second. Basically what you are informing us is you are a hypocrite, a sexist towards men and a body shamer. Ok, gotcha. Thanks for playing.

    No, it shouldn't be justified even if she's overweight. Not because she's skinny. And does Ace's clothes go against his character? Is he exposing himself like Spirit, or is his breast bouncing?

    Did you ever see shirtless david?
    Devs didnt even give him ANYTHING to cover his breast

  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767

    @Luven said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Luven said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    It's only sexual if you make it sexual. I don't see any sexual objectification because I think with the head on my shoulders and not the one in my pants. Oh and you don't mind the idea of killing people and yet as soon as some skin shows you magically have a problem? I guess your priorities are in need of a checkup. Also why didn't you have a problem with shirtless David? Isn't that sexual objectification based on your terms? Such hypocrisy.

    Have you read my post? I said there were people who said she was sexy. It's a problem in itself that there are people like that. Just because you don't see it like that doesn't mean no matter with it.

    I read your post and yet I see no issue. And who cares if they find her sexy? What's it to you any way? It's their opinion and their minds. Why should the developers listen to you just because you have an issue with something that is subjective in nature? Also is it a problem if I find a girl on the beach sexy? What do you want me to do? Just throw out my sexuality? Or are you gonna just try and censor that girl like she's a forbidden fruit? Just because you see it as a problem doesn't it is a problem.

    Btw you didn't answer my question as to why you didn't have a problem with shirtless David yet.

    No, you didn't read my post properly. If you read it correctly, you wouldn't ask a question about David. And is it a problem to look sexy on the beach? Of course. I think you're the one who doesn't think it's a problem. Do you really think it's not a problem to see her sexy with a dead body? Just because opinions and minds are freedom of speech does not mean that you can say anything. And I'm not forcing you to change as I said. They need to figure out the problem with this character. The problem is that they don't realize it.

    ######### are you saying.
    Should we wear burqas on the beach, or what? Sounds like a religion, haha.

    I don't feel anything for the spirit, maybe because I am not into women that much, I can't vouch for everyone else.

    What are you talking about? Do you think women dress that way to make them look good to you? They want to wear it that way. Not because I want to be your eye food. I can't believe what you said. Do women have to dress that way on the beach because of your eyes? You're not interested in women and you talk so easily. Don't go anywhere and say such a shocking thing, it's awful. There's no guarantee that you don't feel anything about spirit, even for others. I've already seen a bunch of guys who say she's sexy.

    So if the spirit likes it that way, why do you judge the devs to dress her like that?
    Your logic is flawed.

    I never said I liked her clothes. I never said I liked everything about her. Get it straight.

    I never implied you like her.
    You are mental.