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Stop defending hackers and pretending that cheats don't exist for this game.
I'm so sick and tired of hackers ruining this game, ever since crossplay came out it's been a disaster. There have been countless killers I come across that blatantly hack for an advantage. No I'm not talking about meme hackers I mean players who hide it and strategize around the benefits of the hack.
I've had 3 matches where the killer was brown rank and mori'd everyone without hooking them once, and didn't have an ebony mori on. I had countless matches where the killer knew exactly where everyone was without any auditory or visual perks and add ons to find us. Killers hiding turning their terror radius, bubba/billy with no chainsaw sfx, no flashlight stuns, aimbot with nurse. I had killers B line to my locker after hooking somebody and he didn't have bbq and was atleast 60meters away.
The hacking is rampant, blatant and obvious for anyone with a few braincells in their head. And yes, I did run into survivors using insta heal, and wall clipping so it goes both ways.
Just to clarify I ALWAYS read the description of every perk the killer used at end game, I have countless hours into this game and the experience in what every perk does and is for killer and survivor.
It's so easy to hack in this game, you will never know if a killer is using ESP cheat engine, and wall hacks, if they're slick enough. And since the game has sooo many bugs and no anti cheat it is so easy and not suprising at all that so many players cheat. There is also literally no penalty for these cheaters, if you think filing a ticket and reporting these fools will work than you're very naive to think SALTY players woth no skill won't abuse it. Because where salt breeds so does hackers.
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Literally no one but the cheaters themselves defend cheating so i don't exactly know what the hell you are talking about
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I don't think I have ever seen anyone seriously claim that there are not hackers or cheats in this, or any other competitive multiplayer game.
The reporting system sucks, and from what I understand you need to have recorded the match, reported in game and filled out a form on their website with the video evidence to have a chance of the report going anywhere. Unfortunately due to the lack of transparency around the report process, that's not even advice I feel super confident with, and could just be a waste of time.
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What lack of transparency? The mods have repeatedly given out this information. It's available on various online resources as well. If you mean that you don't get an automated message saying "We acted on your report", the message would be labeled as "fake" the instant it came because temporary bans don't show up on profiles.
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I mean around what evidence is needed, how long the process takes. If it is an automated investigation or if there are individuals handling each report. And yes, some email response to the user making the report wouldn't go amiss either. As it is, you're just throwing the report into the abyss and hoping for the best.
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Just wanted to correct you on a thing, in-game bans do show on profiles but only if it's a permanent ban from a game.
This is where a lot of misconception comes from like you said, temp bans don't show on profiles so people assume they've done nothing when they could have literally handed out a week temp ban etc.
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I mean around what evidence is needed
Yes, this is written in the online resources I mentioned.
how long the process takes
Depends on the volume of reports and the number of mods. I thought this would be obvious.
If it is an automated investigation or if there are individuals handling each report.
Individuals. Who do you think reviews the videos?
And yes, some email response to the user making the report wouldn't go amiss either.
Bad faith actors would pretend the responses are fake and people who are unaware of the fact that temporary bans don't show up on Steam profiles would believe them. There's nothing to be gained from this.
As it is, you're just throwing the report into the abyss and hoping for the best.
Peanits has already proven that reports go somewhere and are read by the mods, but he shouldn't have had to anyway. Most websites don't give you feedback on your reports, they just act on them. It's only DbD that has people complaining, for some reason.
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Right, I meant temporary bans. I'll amend that, thanks.
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Fair enough :)
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First of all, no-one defends cheaters but cheaters. Second, it sounds like you're confusing game sense for wallhacks. Third, I've been playing this game for two years and I've maybe come across a handful of hackers. So unless you're so unlucky that you shouldn't ever go outside in a mild rain, I'm willing to bet that most of these "hackers" have simply been the players with good game sense and/or you're just inflating the rest to try and make a point.
Gods know I've been reported enough times for hacking just because my hunch that a survivor would be hiding in the maze tile beside the gen that is slightly more worked on than last I saw it was correct.
Edit: actually, a lot of this seems like you're just getting good opponents. Aimbot with Nurse? Been accused of that, too. Flashlight immunity? Also known as either you getting the blind too soon or too late. Also something I've been accused of hacking for.
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I don't pretend they don't exist they are just so rare that you will only get one in like 500-1000 games.
My whole time playing this game i had a hacker on console post crossplay that could infinite dead hard and send out a "fake" themselves that looked like lag. the other time was just a speed hacker i was playing deathslinger and when i speared him it was funny how fast they went left and right.
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There's a big difference between claiming there's no cheating and claiming the frequency some people claim to encounter them at is so much higher than what is common to see people report after thousands of hours of gameplay that it seems unrealistic.
Of course there's cheating, even under the most controversially intrusive anti-cheat systems we've seen there's cheating. Even on LAN events where people physically inspect the equipment of the players there's cheating that isn't caught before later, if ever.
But seeing someone claim they encountered more cheaters in a month or two than several others claim to have seen in over 10k hours of playtime combined? Not denying they might be the most unlucky person on planet earth, but it's perfectly understandable that people get skeptical in cases like that.
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You know what this reminds me of? When I was in my prime as a middle schooler at Minecraft and I thought any one who was better than me was a cheater
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I don't think anyone denies that hackers or cheaters exist and there's a reason we give permanent bans for these things
Pretty sure I've said on this very forum that it's a circle, people find a way to cheat, EAC gets updated, they get caught, another cheat is developed, EAC gets updated and so on and so forth - that's pretty much the way things work and will probably always work, for any anti-cheat system because there's always people developing a new way around them.
We have a team of ACM's who review the reports - so they are manually done, not automated and of course we don't go by number of reports alone, we do require actual evidence.
We also have temporary bans as well as permanent ones so sometimes when you make a report and you don't see action (ie the game ban notification on someones profile), doesn't mean that action wasn't taken against that account, it just means that it wasn't a permanent ban.
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Is there no way to lock out someone from making like 50 accounts though? One particular flying ghostface has been going around banned 55 times and he just laughs it off when it happens again.
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That's not true at all for my match making. And by the way a lot of these hackers are Windows users who make clever names that basically tell you they are hacking. Hacks have been around for along time on this game anyway, pros use them as well for fun. What bothers me is before the Twins update hacking was very infrequent like you said, about 1 in 500 matches. But ever since the updates that hasn't been the case. BHVR screwed the cheat detection system.
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i mean i play daily and haven't once encountered a hacker since PH came out which was the speed hacker.
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discussing an individual case like that is something I can't do I'm afraid.
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They basically do by pretending they don't exist and than just blaming your skill. Mabey should've clarified I'm in red rank since everyone suspects I just started playing.
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So EAC is still getting regular updates? I ask because it feels like cheating has skyrocketed the past year.
Is there no way for mods to check without video evidence either? By that I mean if 50 people all report an account for speed hacks, I know a lot of things are recorded for data, can they not tell if a survivor has been running around at 500% speed which defies all explanation? Could collecting more data on this be gathered?
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As someone who's seen one cheater in 2300 hours, definitely agree with this and find it hard to take this seriously. I also have friends with 7.5k, 5k, 5.5k, 2k, 1k hrs who none of them have seen more than 2 cheaters playing this game. We are all from EU aswell which you'd think would make it more likely we'd see cheaters, since we regularly get matched with Russians
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without video evidence no, the amount of reports is irrelevant, we won't ban people without actual proof.
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No, just no.... Read again. I'll give you the example. There was a bubba who didn't have lightborne, and had nothing to defend against flashlight. And when a killer has lightborne there is a sound effect with no visual cue from the beam that you've blinded him.
So I was in a chase, threw a pallet, stunned him and he stood still without moving his head up while I had my flashlight directly in his eyes. There was no sound effect, visual cue, nothing. He also had no sound effect when revving the chainsaw. Oops, I'm an idiot. Didn't you know bubba has an add on that mutes his chainsaw?????
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Is it possible your flashlight aim was bad?
Because you say that you get a sound cue when you blind a killer with LightBorn, I'd assume a hack would either invisibly activate LightBorn or would modify the variables that effect blindness length and set them to 0. Either of these cases should have made the sound cue.
Note: I don't know how things are written in the game, and I don't know how the people who write the cheats do their thing, I'm just a dude with a Computer Science degree making assumptions on how things might work.
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Any chance of the game eventually automatically sending videos of a match to the team to review rather than putting the burden on players for reportable matches? I really don't like cheaters in this game but it does take a lot of effort on a player to go out of their way to do everything in order for the team to review a game that it's not very motivating for players to make that effort to report, although they still should. Right now it does take a lot of time reporting someone that a player most likely will never encounter them again anyways. Right now it's hard to motivate players to go the extra mile despite it being better for the game as a whole, which is unfortunate. Players who give bogus reports recieve a penalty as well to prevent flooding of bogus reports (I wouldn't necessarily say a permanent ban though for them)
I understand this may not be possible but i was just trying to offer some input on the system for now
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I know Hackers exist, I just doubt the frequency some people claim to have encountered hackers.
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I appreciate the input, it's something that is brought up often, not sure how feasible or possible it is to add to the game though so I'm afraid I don't have any direct answers on that.
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That's understandable. I hope something is adjusted eventually but I get why it's hard to change the system now that its been in place for for long. Thanks for taking the time to respond though.
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What if the survivor escapes the match with 3 gens left and 4 survivors alive? Can it be tracked with in game report?
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most people are always suspicious of hacker reports are you being rude doesn't help your case, especially bringing up something that is pretty much completely meaningless
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