Who's Complaining About Lightborn?

pizzaduffyhp90
pizzaduffyhp90 Member Posts: 901
edited December 2021 in General Discussions

So after seeing Spook N Jukes Lightborn video I have to wonder who actually complains about Lightborn? I never see Survivors complain about this perk ever. I think I've only seen it once or twice in my time playing.

This perk ain't even that great either it's just a meme one that can be used for a good laugh from playing killer.

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  • Aurelle
    Aurelle Member Posts: 3,611

    Flashlight squads and survivors who just want to be annoying in general are probably the only ones who would complain about Lightborn.

  • dspaceman20
    dspaceman20 Member Posts: 4,699

    I'm starting to think no one is complaining about lightborn and they saying survivors are just to make survivors look bad

  • Grandpa_Crack_Pipe
    Grandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 3,306

    It's the most bizarre invented drama i've seen here for a long while.

    There's literally nothing going on here.

  • Laluzi
    Laluzi Member Posts: 6,233
    edited December 2021


    To be fair... the situations in which you actually want Lightborn, the survivors are playing a game that is decidedly obnoxious. Sure, it's preventing survivors from having fun, but the survivors having fun in this case is annoying the killer as much as possible. This is very often the point of full flashlight teams; they play to dunk on the killer, and that's a large part of why it's 'fun.' The fun is either because timing blinds is an expression of skill, or because it gets the other side tilted. Flashy squads often throw the game to prevent the killer from being able to complete their objective, and they're not hard games to win, but by god are they painful to slog through - and this is true whether the people playing are trying to show off how awesome they are at DBD, or trying to convince me to uninstall the game.

    So fun-wise, I'd call that tit for tat. You say Lightborn stops survivors from having fun, but what about the killer? It's not fun having to smack down the entire team and play ring-around-the-pallet for two minutes to be able to pick up one person, or to get juggled between lockers with no way of grabbing a survivor without having the other one blind you. A killer can easily deny you blinds without Lightborn unless you're doing cheesy strats that can scarcely masquerade as anything more than trolling; Lightborn largely just cuts through the bullshit when manually denying blinds starts to become most of your game.

    I don't bring Lightborn to stop survivors from having fun, I bring it to protect myself from nuisance games. If you really need to use a flashlight, there's always next match. If your idea of fun depends on blinding, I can't empathize.

    Also, inconsequential? An item that can undo your last chase is pretty far from inconsequential.

  • Desh
    Desh Member Posts: 1,118

    I've been called a PoS before for using LightBorn. But it's so infrequent that it's insignificant.

  • Laluzi
    Laluzi Member Posts: 6,233

    SWFs who center their strategies around flashlights are going to crawl away from walls whenever you down them, and they're going to flock to a player who calls that they're going down soon. Denying them the angle isn't always possible, which is where the 'I have to swat away three other players to be able to pick up the guy I downed' nonsense begins.

    I just don't see negating an optional item to be that big of a deal. Plague negates medkits and those are much more important than flashlights (or at least, they were before CoH.) Maps are pointless if the killer didn't bring a hex. Keys are useless if you don't make it to the end. Every item that isn't a toolbox typically gets ruined by Franklins, and the toolbox too if you don't use it ASAP. You can bring Head On and get a killer with Iron Maiden, or Kindred or Blood Amber against a killer with Third Seal and blindness addons. Sometimes you just bring things that end up not having value in your match. I generally don't use flashlights, but on the occasions I used them for challenges, they were useless due to the killer's playstyle way more than they were useless due to Lightborn. Already I am not guaranteed value for this item, so does it really matter if that's through a relatively rare perk or finesse?

  • Tr1nity
    Tr1nity Member Posts: 5,047

    Who is? No one.

  • WesCravenFan
    WesCravenFan Member Posts: 2,637


    Wrong. I get Lightborn hate constantly. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count all the times some Survivor became mouth-frothingly unglued in endgame chat because I "ruined his game" by running my "OP crutch perk".


    Lightborn hate is very, VERY real but people keep pretending it is not.


    Then you get people like Scott Jund with their enclosed argument of "I never see people complain about Lightborn", a man that admits he never runs Lightborn. Well, no crap. You don't run it, so of course you don't get the blowback from it.

  • DangerScouse
    DangerScouse Member Posts: 989
    edited April 2023