All changes I'd make to reworked Freddy

yee272

1. Revert dream pallet nerfs. Dream pallets right now are very underwhelming, Survivors can see which pallets are fake, they can drop the pallet to cancel the rupture and dream pallets stun Freddy. Survivors being able to cancel rupture makes the ability almost entirely useless since the area of effect is only 3m, this means survivors will almost always be able to cancel the rupture. Because survivors can see which pallets are fake, they can choose to ignore fake pallets in most scenarios and they will no longer be tricked into running towards deadzones, which was previously the only thing dream pallets were good for. Survivors being able to stun Freddy with dream pallets means that he is forced to use rupture at every dream pallet because otherwise he runs the risk of getting stunned. This feels much clunkier than before as now you have to switch to your power, hold right click on the pallet, left click at the correct time, then the survivor either ignores the rupture or drops the pallet and then you get a hit if you are within distance. While before these changes the survivor dropped the pallet and you'd get the hit. All of this combined makes dream pallets overall worse than before. I don't see why the rupture could not simply be added to the existing dream pallets. Survivors would still get a warning that it's about to blow up, but they won't know it's a dream pallet beforehand so they won't just ignore it and removing the stun would make the power feel less clunky. The one thing that should come with this however, is a very small window where Freddy is not able to attack after a Rupture, because otherwise he could potentially double tap survivors.
2. Black box add-on should be changed to work on downed survivors in one way or another. Currently if an asleep survivor is blocked by the exit gates by this add-on, once they get downed, they will be able to escape immediately since downing a survivor makes them awake.
3. Freddy's post teleport detection radius should be increased. Currently, if survivors are within 8 meters of Freddy after he teleports, they will be detected and gain 15 seconds on their sleep timer. This radius is simply too small. A survivor will hear and see you coming, so they will be well outside of this radius by the time you teleport. Additionally, if you teleport to healing survivors, you spawn 12 meters away, making it basically impossible for them to get hit with the radius. I suggest increasing it to 16 meters like his old z block add-on.
4. The cooldown of dream snares should be increased slightly, and to compensate the duration of the hinder, or the hinder penalty should be increased slightly. Dream snares feel good to use and have a noticeable impact, but you are able to spam them quite a bit which doesn't feel great to play against, dodging them just seems a bit pointless since he'll get one back almost immediately. I'm thinking very small number tweaks here, maybe a 1 second cooldown increase, 1% hinder increase and a 0.5 longer hinder duration. Further testing would be required to get it just right.
5. Bring back teleport canceling. This was a pretty beloved mechanic by Freddy players, as it allowed for unique mind games. It also is friendlier to new players since they can cancel their teleport if they made a mistake. If the cooldown of 10 seconds after canceling comes back as well, then I see no reason why this shouldn't return.
6. Potential nerfs or buffs to waking up. I found it difficult to judge how balanced the waking up system is right now, I'm leaning towards saying alarm clocks might need a small nerf, but it's hard to say. I suggest the devs keep a close eye on this and if later down the line, if it's found that waking up is too easy or too hard, nerf or buff waking up appropriately.
7. Freddy should not be able to teleport to survivors who are picking up downed survivors, or at least have a significantly slower teleport charge time when he does. Freddy's current ability to teleport to asleep survivors who are healing downed survivors makes him excellent at slugging, which is obviously not very fun.
8. This is not really a proposed change, but I want to emphasize how being stunned by your own illusionary "Dream pallet" makes no sense thematically and somewhat ruins the fantasy of playing as Freddy Kreuger for me.

Lastly I do want to say that at least gameplay wise, what we currently have in the PTB is already miles better than the live version of Freddy. I think BHVR did a great job with this rework, these are just some points I would like to see addressed before this rework hits live. : )

fixblitzskin

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/436459/all-changes-id-make-to-reworked-freddy

1- New pallets are so bad in its current form and not even worth it. Id rather have the dream pallets we have right know. Survivors knowing they are fake defeats the fun using them. I would like them to bring the current pallets as an addon

2- Blackbox needs to add a condition on the addon that saids that survivors downed in the exit gates stay asleep thus cannot crawl out.

3- Cat Block was my favorite thing on him and they need to make the detection 16 meters or at least 12 because even with 16 like how the addon is rn they pre run and you barley get the killer instinct

4- Im not to sure about the snares since ive been more focused on what is wrong. I think overall that the moving snares are a good addition

5- They got to make it that you cannot fake teleport on healing survivors or doors. You still should be able to fake/cancel teleport on gens.

6- I will be fine with the current alarm clock and non increase to manually waking up if they buff his kit rn.

7- A compromise needs to happen. Take away that you can teleport to a slugged healing survivor and give him some things mentioned above.

8- Getting stun sucks and the repture pallets are not even worth it with the current numbers. Unicorn block should be basekit and they should turn that into a current dream pallet addons. I know they are weaker but i dont care i like them and dont want them gone.