General Discussions
General Discussions
Just remember this BHVR
If you start to see your playerbase drop or an increase of sweaty/toxic plays or an increase of players throwing games, from the killers, after the changes go through with ruin...
Please, pleassssssse don't act all awe and shock or even surprised when it happens, you put this on yourself.
Comments
-
Apocalypse incoming
8 -
You guys definitely make it too apocalyptic. Ruin wasn't that great of a perk even before the nerf: you cannot rely on a hex perk. Just play whitout it and learn to apply pressure.
34 -
Wake me up when September ends.
A
D
A
P
T
Post edited by Infinity_Bored on20 -
It's not entirely unwarranted though. It's already more or less begun. Killer queue times are near instant, while survivor queue times are an eternity. That means there simply aren't many killers left compared to even a few months ago.
23 -
Shots fired, shots fired!!! Cover up!!!
0 -
Adapt?
1 -
######### whiny (and noobish) killer base: "Ruin is useless lol. Totems placement is a joke, EVERY GAME my hex gets destroyed in the first 30 seconds. RUIN IS USELESS, BOIS."
Also ######### whiny (and noobish) killer base: "Ruin gone? GG Behaviour, your company will fall and you'll lose million of dollars because I say so! (lol)"
Sincerly, a killer main.
22 -
Survivors complained when self care got nerfed. Were told to adapt. The no heal meta was born and adrenaline got chose more. They adapted.
Survivors got pallet amounts nerfed. They got told to adapt. Pallet looping grew into an even bigger meta.
Exhausion perks got....well.....exhausion.
Gen speeds were nerfed in the games first year by having 10 seconds added to completion at the same time hook sabo got nerfed. Tool boxes then got used mostly on gens. They adapted.
Something tells me killers will be and do just fine with the ruin changes. And no one that quits over it will be gone long. They rarely are.
22 -
Wasting your time. That's a wall you're talking to
5 -
Maybe he is just warning us that he is going for an achievement :)
0 -
2
-
Wow, it's like there are more than 5 people playing this game!
3 -
Wow u found a typo. Congratz.
Still wont change the fact, that only bad killers need ruin.
0 -
Yeah, i don't think they would.
The outrage was within their expectations, i'm confident they could see that possibility happen as well.
0 -
Honestly,since some people (toxic people) left cuz of ruin,we will have less toxic people in the game!
6 -
Its funny how people act like its the end of the game. Excuse me but how many times did we all complain and look for an alternative because that damn totem went within 30 seconds?
I’ve been trying other strategies for a while now anyway as I had to play so many games where that totem went instantly that I feel like it wont make a difference.
2 -
I mean, if you're going to be flippant at least be grammatically correct.
11 -
Aren’t you bored talking about this yet? Go play a different game perhaps or take up a hobby (knitting).
2 -
^ This
5 -
Omg this!!! After seeing the posts and complaints from people who are pressed over the ruin change, I actually hope they do leave the game. They take it way to serious, seem very toxic, and entitled. I’d rather they do stop playing. In a way, the ruin nerf could clear a lot of really toxic killer mains and be a blessing.
6 -
Yeah? Prove it. You all keep saying this as if to prove you were right, but on ps4 (where I play) survivor wait times have been long since I can remember, well before the ruin change. So why is that? Stop creating false statements to cater to your own ideas.
2 -
Yeah, so 80% of red rank killers. Wow, you are so far away from reality.
3 -
Now,let's nerf ds,exhaustion perks and swf in order for all toxic survivors to leave!!!! High five!
*J raises his hand ✋
6 -
You mean like adapting to play against Ghostface ;)
The irony is strong with this one.
6 -
Queue times got nuked once they started queuing SWF with the highest rank, it was an instant change over night, if it was really due to killers leaving it would have at least been gradual.
Killers went from 5 - 10 minute lobbies to instant, and survivors did the opposite
This video explains it quite well.
2 -
So healing during killers successful attack animation was fair?
Being able to sabo every hook but basement and them not come back was fair?
Unlimited exhaustion perks, perks that are still incredibly strong, were fair?
12.5 seconds added to the game per survivor? The horror.
Every change you mentioned was to give the killer a chance to do his job against even a slightly competent survivor.
All ruin did was give the killer a small chance to prolong the game just a bit. A complete rng experience.
Yes, killers and survivors wanted it changed no denying that. What they did was give us a perk that shouldn't even be called ruin. It bears zero resemblence to the original. Doesn't even try to do what the original did. Doesn't address why so many killers took the gamble of running 3 perks all game. Name one other perk that got reworked in such a manner?
I dont use ruin as i hate the randomness of it. In fact I've pretty much switched to survivor because of how less stressful it is.
Tl;dr Survivor nerfs you talk about are balance issues that needed to happen for killers to be able to do their jobs. Ruin was a nerf that did nothing to address balance
12 -
Zubat a bad killer now, k.
1 -
1 -
Just because u use it, doesnt mean u need it.
Get your thoughts straight or leave me alone.
0 -
Ghostface's mechanic is broken. There is more than enough evidence in the thread, that i started.
U ask me to adapt to something broken? No thanks.
4 -
I used Ruin myself but i dont need it.
Since the rework was announced, i threw it out of my builds. Guess what, still a red rank killer, that gets a pip most of his games.
0 -
jUsT ApPlLy pResSuRe
4 -
Maybe you get yours straight, it was just a coincedence that it was in every killer build of him.
You don't need it against bad survivors, on the other hand you dont need anything against bad survivors. If you want to be left alone, do not participate in discussions.
4 -
no just a couple of people who dont know nothing and when they were asked to back up their statements with evidence they failed to deliver
4 -
lol You complained about every part of Ghostface not just knocking him out of night shroud. Eat your words ;)
9 -
These will be the next killer. They will kill survivors with their cuteness.
0 -
Yeah, that's what i said. If you weren't a rank 20 you would have known what it means.
0 -
I see players throwing games, toxic killers and toxic survivors all the time. Hardly breaking news.
1 -
They're looking in to fixing the gen times now that Ruin is getting nerfed. I wasn't quite on board until I heard this. Now I think the game can move forward in a healthier direction.
2 -
Not sure, why u highjack this thread with my GF complaints, but yes. This killer is broken from the bottom to the top and many people agree. Not sure what ur mission is.
Time will tell if devs agree.
6 -
yet survivors didn't adapt to doc or ruin
🙄
3 -
You just need to
A
D
A
P
T
2 -
Sorry if you got butthurt by my words. Will mute you from now on since real talk obviously isnt your thing.
Dont forget to cry when GF rework kicks in.
3 -
Don't forget to adapt when the next killer comes along and you feel the need to cry a monsoon.
3 -
Like i said. I wont adapt to broken mechanics.
Leave your loop and accept, that there are people with different opinions.
1 -
Mothers Dwelling
3 gen split
Survivors on all gens or maybe even just two.
Playing Trapper, 115% speed no mobility.
JuSt ApPlY pReSsUrE!
...sure thing pal.
8 -
That was not even remotely a threat. It was a badly done foreboding message of doom. Its an early I told you so. Not even sure where you came up with it being a threat.
3 -
I don't read this as "please don't shoot yourself" more like "If the game dies, it's your fault". And from the title I read something like "we warned you"
0 -
That's not my point. I simlpy said I don't like this style. This is not the first thread that states a "I promise you are going down". Mostly linked to "I'm unhappy with this, so if I quit, everyone will quit". Which is already ridiculous. But this 'subliminal' glowing-eyes, vanish-in-the-dark, voice-over "remember my words..." really nags me
1
![[Deleted User]](https://forums.bhvr.com/applications/dashboard/design/images/defaulticon.png)
