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What is toxicity against a killer? I can't agree...

Carlosylu
Carlosylu Member Posts: 2,948
edited January 2020 in General Discussions

THIS THREAD IS ONLY TAKING ABOUT TOXICITY AGAINST THE KILLERS, NOT TEAMMATES. IN GAME, NOT POST GAME CHAT.

I've been reading a lot of "toxic red ranks" lately... And I'm sorry to say, I don't agree...

For me a toxic survivor is the one who teabags or DCs, anything apart from that is just them trying to help their team or themselves survive.

"Toxic Gen Rushers": No, the maps, pipping and killers are the problem, it's not them doing their jobs

"Toxic Body Blockers": Get good...

"Toxic Flashlight users": Really...? How many times did it happen...? One? ok, two? now that's your fault for knowing there's a spammer and not taking preventions before a grab...

"Toxic Toolbox Users": Bring in an offering to go to a map that helps you, a mori if you need to and/or a killer you dominate with...


Red ranks both killer and survivor, xbox

Comments

  • honestlybaffled
    honestlybaffled Member Posts: 175

    As you said, t-bagging, dc'ing and I have to add, that "spamming flashlight clicks" is pretty toxic too, I don't do that because I know its basically saying "come and get me come and get me come and tryna get me"

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Yeah people have the tendancy to call anything they can't beat toxic

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    Being toxic is when you don't do something to win, but to annoy your opponent.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,618

    I would not give anything on the word "toxic" anymore. It is overused and is only a phrase without any meaning.

    People find so many things toxic, Looping, Camping, Flashlights (for actual reasons, not to BM)... So if someone calls something toxic, they are most likely only using a word without any special intention behind it.

  • SquidFacedMan
    SquidFacedMan Member Posts: 148

    Teabagging and Clicking Flashlights is something that people consider toxic, but having played as survivor with teamates that do this I know it's just them attempting to annoy the killer and get them to make bad decisions rather than any personal attack on that particular killer's ability.

    DCing is probably the worst though because it usually denies you something like a stack, or even just the BP.

    Body Blocking can be annoying for newer killers but I wouldn't consider it toxic. Same with flashlights. It's just a learning curve that the game doesn't really explain to you. You learn from friends or streamers basically.

    I don't really mind gens popping, in the sense that it's not the survivors fault that their objective is easy to complete.

  • Carlosylu
    Carlosylu Member Posts: 2,948
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1006637#Comment_1006637

    Wouldn't that enter the subjective field? I mean, if someone clicks the flashlight continuously on me the just want attention cause they think they're good enough to outloop me, I don't find that toxic, but more of a "challenge accepted" request. If someone does anything else than teabagging or DCing I just look at it in a "what are thay trying to say?" kind of way. Wouldn't toxicity would then be subjective to what the killer perceives as "annoying"?

    I'm trying to agree with this community about universal toxicity actions, and I can't find another aside fron teabagging and DCing

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1006645#Comment_1006645

    That's right, the survivor's intention decides whether their behaviour is toxic. Clicking the flashlight or t-bagging mid-game? Could be just to annoy the killer, or could be that the survivor just wants the killer's attention. T-bagging at the exit gate? Definitely just to annoy the killer.

  • oxygen
    oxygen Member Posts: 3,375

    In-game actions aren't really toxic at all unless it involves knowingly abusing exploits or something. As annoying as some people might find it, if someone gets the killer's attention by tbagging/clicking or whatever and then occupies them effectively they made a good play for the team. If they go down immediately then they're just a clown and it's pretty funny.

    My opinion of course, and it's certainly shaped by the games I've played throughout the years. A lot of it comes down to opinion and it really doesn't hurt anyone if someone finds tbagging toxic or whatever, as long as it doesn't go into scrub mindset territory where people start whining about "toxic" players in situations where they should blame the game if anything.

  • xCarrie
    xCarrie Member Posts: 982

    T-bagging, flashlight spamming and pointing aren't considered toxic to me, just annoying and bad manors. If it’s mid game you’re still able to catch them and kill them so at the end they look dumb. Toxic to me is someone going out of their way to ruin someone’s day with words after they won or lost.

    I point when I want to get the killers attention while my friends work on gens, taunt a bit so they’ll want to keep chasing me and not lose interest. But at the end i’ll say “gg” and apologize if I seemed rude cause it’s not my intention.