Billy is 100% getting nerfed. All the signs are there.
So, now that Spirit and Nurse have gotten nerfed, the next Target is Billy for sure.
Here's my line of thinking. (Sorry if not on point on some of his aspects, but I don't play Billy)
1. He's completely balanced at right ranks, whilst low rank survivors have a terrible time facing him.
2. Insta down + low level survivors.
3. If I'm not mistaken there has been some talking about changing some of his add-ons. We might expect the same "add-on" treatment they gave Nurse.
There are already done threads complaining about how "unfun" it is to face Billy.
I personally believe he's bound to get some "add-on" reworks. I'm thinking something like, having to stop at specific gas pumps around the map to get some fuel.... And maybe some girly magazines :)
What do you guys think?
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I find Billy fun unless they're sweating with insta saw and IF.
Whoever thinks Billy is unfair and unfun to play against should just stop playing the gane
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His and bubba's add ons are definitely awful. Bubba's basekit needs some sort of modification to compensate for his lack of pressure. Billy's basekit is untouchable, it's practically the standard for what a basekit should be right next to freddy. I think more buffs than nerfs might finally arrive.
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I don't like face him, but that's cause I suck as Survivor.
Freddy on the other hand, is the best killer I have ever faced. The games tense, fairly balanced and with a good amount of heart pumping at the end, it almost felt like I was playing a horror game.
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I'm thinking if they take away my Billy then I'm ######### done with this game.
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Thank God if thats the case.
I’ll take...
- Cooldown so he can’t hook a survivor, scare another survivor off a gen at the far side of the map then rush back to tunnel the survivor off hook all with 15 seconds
- Instasaw gone
- Slightly slower movement while charging so he can’t casually walk behind a survivor charging the chainsaw,
- Slightly more punishment for missing a chainsaw swing. Not as bad as LF but slightly more than current Billys
Any combination of those really. Either a nerf to his instadown swing or a nerf to his map traversal. No more 2016 design.
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So you want an oni
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Yep, nerfballs a comin from the usual BHVR signs, and sadly, the game looks like it's slated to share deathgarden's fate if they keep along the current course of balancing
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Given that BHVR is madly in love with a cooldown bar for Killer powers, I wouldn't be surprised if they put his chainsaw on a cooldown because a couple of rank 20s complained. I wonder how many Killer players will be left by then.
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I'd be fine with this honestly. Give him a cooldown bar or reload so he can be like every other killer.
Being able to freely use your power when you want isn't a luxury other killers get. Especially ones that 1 shot.
Myers, Ghost Face and Oni all have a build up and a timer. 1 shot killers should have build up and a timer. (Besides LF because no one considers him very good)
But they need to look at gen speeds/maps before more killer nerfs like that imo.
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Nah. They stopped Deathgarden on purpose to redirect more resources on DbD. More profitable.
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Instasaw needs to be changed. That’s my only issue with Billy.
I don’t think Billy needs any serious changes but if he gets changed I can’t say I care all that much. I never play him and I snooze whenever I face against him.
Billy is a killer I tend to forget about because he is irrelevant to me when playing killer. I’ve never cared about him.
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What is "IF"?
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The only thing Billy needs is a Nerf of Tuning Guide (or at least a much higher Rarity, easily strong enough for a Pink Add On), Insta Saw and his Cooldown Add Ons, so that missed Chainsaw Attacks have some meaningful impact and not result in using the Chainsaw right again.
Other than that, he is fine, also his Basekit (which was not the case with Nurse, even if people still want to claim it).
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I don't think he'll get buffs. I think some of his addons will get nerfed (maybe even his base). Just my thoughts, though.
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I rarely see Billy's and it's always a treat when I face one. I hope he doesn't get Nerfd because of potato survivors
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If they change Billy im ok with it, Is the last killer to balance and then they can finally move to buff clown legion etc
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I honestly wouldn't mind that. He is overwhelming at times (especially when playing solo). It's even worse if he has addons.
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IF is infectious Fright
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If they ######### up Billy a lot of people is gonna uninstall lol
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I don't think they should change Billy at all, but if he were to get nerfed, I think it should come at the expense of his map pressure over his one shot down.
The instadown is the whole package, it's what makes him a threat in the first place. If he were to lose instadown on chainsaw he'd basically be a pointless m1 killer with a speed boost. His power would basically be worse than legions because it wouldn't build the small amount of time like deep wounds, and he would get less use as it's not built around looping like legions power is.
Billy would have even less mindgame potential at certain T-walls and pallets. If they don't fear the insta down, most will just plant at a palette and smack you for approaching with your chainsaw because it's barely a risk.
Anyways, I don't know why you're all so suddenly gung ho to nerf one of the only killers to provide a more exciting experience on both sides than "M1, Just don't heal"
Obviously if there's any killer that needs a nerf right now... It's Freddy
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Imagine complaining about a M1 killer. A killer who can do ######### againt the multitude of unmindgame loops littered across the maps. If you get caught outpositioned against a Billy, its your own fault, because you hear his chainsaw. Everything, including instantsaws is fine in my opinion. Billy should not be touched at all.
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How can anyone defend Instant chainsaw add-ons?
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Just loop him. Make him a M1 killer.
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Just loop accordingly to his chainsaw, that's it. Yea you might not get some windows against it but you can still easily loop him.
Plus Insta-saw isn't even his best build, crack billy is (carb + doom).
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Billyboy is fine but i would love to see addon changes. Give this creature his 2 red addons!
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Billy is one of the easier killers in my opinion. If you have even the slightest distance on him and he charges at you, you just break at 90 degrees or turn a corner. The only time Billy hits me is with his hammer, he was the first killer I truly learned how to counter.
The only killers I truly find annoying is ghostface and doctor. Revealing ghostface is hit or miss. When I want to do it, I can't for some reason and when I don't want to do it, it somehow instantly happens. As for the doctor, I don't like the sound nor do I like that he is able to find you by just walking around (patch changing that here soon).
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A dirty Billy can have it too easy imo, a fair Billy who plays normally is no biggy. I expect a slight nerf from a weird angle.
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Oh, they also said they would only change Nurse addons.
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That depends on your location on the map. If you’re a loop then force him to M1 you. If you’re out in the open, then you’re most likely ######### (which you should be).
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If at all this really happens and devs indeed nerf billy's base kit, that would be the epitome of dev's incompetence, especially in game balance.
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Why do people act like instasaw does exist? It is nowhere near instant lmao..
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Nerfing Billy will 100% make me quit playing killer and Bhvr can be sure I won't give them a single dollar anymore.
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Not every killer has to be the same. Furthermore, they should all be like billys strengths and not Billy weaker
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Of course they because they nerfed ruin for potatoes survivors(rank 20-10) Ruin the perk that get destroyed at 90% of games at 10s of game. That make me laugh but angry at the same time. Nurse/spirit was nerfed easily except that nurse was nerfed in where the community wasn't agreeing with (base kit) but spirit except for the add-ons changes (prayer beads excluded) the rest is good changes but don't solve the issues which we don't know when she teleport or is standing still.
Billy need add-ons changes because he doesn't have ultra rare add-ons but overall all add-ons is good. The only downside is that everyone is using the cooldown/charge add-ons because they are the best. I would like the chains and engravings to be used more often.
Hillbilly will get nerfed both his Base Kit and add-ons we all know it and should come right after the doc changes.
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