Do you think the game is Bias to either Killer, Survivor, Neither, or Both? And could you explain?

Survivor. Giant maps, BS loops and perks

Oh and, Enduring actually got buffed

Neither. I find it funny how no one said anything when survivors were getting nerfed back to back some time ago. There was no mobs or angry howling people.

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I think that every survivor and every killer has something to improve. I'm aware of the "unfair" arrangement of helping the survivors more than the killers. For me personally the killer has alway no matter what perks are played by the survivors the chance of a 4 Man Hook. There are for stealth survivors perks like Whispor and stridor and for looping ones Brutal Strenth Bamboozle and stuff. It's in my opinion quiet a luck based arrangement where you can get 4 or none.

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I don't think there is a bias towards any direction. A highly skilled killer can kill all 4 survivors at red ranks the majority of the time. And a high skilled survivor Team can also survive the majority of the time. And when they clash usually around 2 die.

People who say Killers are the only one who get nerfed are delusional. Balanced Landing, Metal of Man, Insta Heal Med Kits, Brand New Parts, Healing Speeds etc all got nerfed. Also hitboxes are worse than ever, half the time when you throw down a pallet the killer hits you through it regardless of how much distance you thought you had, meaning you need to throw it down earlier than you used to. Pallets distances have been increased, while hooks have been decreased. They also nerfed the Petrified oak so it only increases the distance between hooks instead of removing hooks. Which is why no one runs it anymore.

Killers has had a bunch of random nerfs, like EGC timer change for the pig, and Legions butt load of changes. Though most are killer specific changes. Rather than universal changes. I can't think of many perks that were nerfed except Dying Light. A lot of perks were actually buffed. Most of them were small buffs, but buffs none the less. I believe Pop went from 15% regression to 25% if I'm not mistaken. I don't feel like going over all of them tbh. I could but it would take a while. The strange part is. even with all the nerfs done to the killers, their tier placement hasn't really seemed to change. Freddy, Spirit, and Nurse are still dubbed top tier, and Legion is still considered as bad as he's always been. (Minus the cheese on launch)

Actually now that I look at it, it's probably all the nerfs to survivor that is allowing killers to almost have a 3k rate across the board according to the data they released. When their goal is 2K. A previous data chart showed Killers struggling at the higher ranks before the survivors heal nerf. So it isn't completely useless data at least not to me.

Now Ruin getting nerfed is a biggy for killers. Huge Nerf really. I'm good enough at killer to play without ruin, but I know the average killer isn't. They need that to buy them some extra time. Hopefully the devs do what they said they were going to do, and monitor gen times, and adjust it in a later patch without them having to worry about the randomness that is Hex: Ruin.

The game is not biased at all. The hatch doesn't exist to give survivors a "reward", the existence of the hatch is to prevent game hostage situation where the game could go on for +40 mins. If you're a year or more older where 2 gens were a request so the hatch could spawn.

Maps are not survivor's sided or killer's sided, it's called bad design, they're not pointing to a bias, because it's even stupid to think about it. Badham's and Lery's reworks are proof of it. And they're reworking old maps as well so... stop saying it's biased. BHVR can't do a map in a day, those things recquire time.

The devs points to balance, and take actions toward what they think it will be the best choice.

Survivor favored in my opinion.

Killer gameplay is based around taking advantage over Survivor mistakes for the most part. Killers do need to gain skill in using their powers, learning the maps, and what not when it comes to earning hooks it boils down to the Killer either brute forcing through loops or Survivors making mistakes.

In low skill gameplay that means Killer will be much stronger as Survivors will make more mistakes. But as you go higher into skilled gameplay Survivors will make fewer mistakes leaving Killers with less and less to take advantage on. That naturally puts Survivors in the favored position in the long run.

In other words. Survivors only need to get good at DbD to do well while Killers need to be better than that in order to do well. The skill requirement simply isn't equal as Killers need to be better than Survivors to only be "equals".

First off good question.. And before i answer your topic. I dont feel like keys or mori are op... Strong yes more so in right settings. But no.. With keys you have to do a number of gens before it even shows. Then u got to find it. And in the few years and ungodly hours i played. I can count on one hand someone keyed a hatch. As for mori there been times I could not find people or got to pressured to waste that 8 to 12 seconds to mori someone.... On otherside u know if some kilker is running it... And can play according... I feel that at start of game (of equal skilled players) its survior Oriented.. But longer game goes on it will go more tward killer.. As items pallets hook break wear out happen. Thanks....

Judging by their bug fixing priority, the developers are heavily survivor biased.

I think almost everyone in this game is x-biased, either way. In most cases it is not fun to argue as it is not about arguing rather than proving that someone is right, by whatever means.

Survivor biased.

I believe the reason is the same as any business. Money. Below is my long-winded explanation.

The sheer quantity of second-chance perks that can be stacked on top of one another is ludicrous, and everyone knows it even if it's like pulling teeth to get some players to admit it. Laurie Strode is licensed, and that means most survivor players will buy at least her rather than pray Decisive Strike (and Object of Obsession for those 4-man SWFs) shows up in the Shrine of Secrets, thereby guaranteeing a small bump in income for BHVR even when they occasionally give the base game away for free. However, that purchase is one-and-done, and then BHVR is saddled with an enormous number of players who are no longer contributing anything financially, since there is no reason for survivors to get anything beyond her for perks. Borrowed Time, Unbreakable, and Dead Hard are free with a few days' grind along with several other borderline perks, but oops, they can't start charging money for them now. So they start adding survivor cosmetics at a rapid pace, and because people are obsessed with how their pixels look, survivors will buy them. But the only people who will buy cosmetics in any game are those that are happy with the game and have an easy time and wish to continue playing. Since survivor players are the vast majority of the game's population, it stands to reason that, financially, they are the primary target and so BHVR bends over backwards pleasing them. The only time you'll see a nerf to survivors or a buff to killers is when the survivor queue times are getting so horrendous that survivors start to leave the game.

The financial milking happens to killer players as well. Similarly, some of the most viable killer perks are spread out across many killers and some builds do not function at all when just one them is missing. Killer players have to get these characters for their perks AND whichever power suits their preferred playstyle, but they will eventually get frustrated or bored and quit the game for long periods of time, perhaps permanently due to the disparity in balance and especially due to how horrible the community as a whole treats killer players. This works to the business model's advantage, as only the most exceptional killer players will derive any actual enjoyment from playing against red rank survivors, but a lot of them will leave before developing the skills needed to deal with horribly lopsided matches, leaving the majority of experienced survivors to have easy games against less experienced killers, ensuring that survivors get to have a grand, fun time bullying a low-rank killer into quitting, but since BHVR already has their money, they have no reason to care. If those killer players bought cosmetics too, then all the better for BHVR, but I doubt they're considered a priority. They rely on the revolving door of killer players.

Now you know why I believe BHVR shows a pattern of not caring about killer players. It is in their best financial interest to actively make them unhappy at a slow enough rate to retain just a small number of them, mostly newer players who cannot keep up, for survivors to get easy matches.

tl;dr 80% of players inevitably spend more money than 20% of players

Neither

Early stages of the game definitely survivor but recently they care more about Killers because they realised hoe badly they facked up after the ruin rework. Now they want that there are more Killers in the game because of the lack of Killers right now.

It's not biased. I'm pretty sure the developers don't have the survivor vs killer mentality the playerbase has, they actually try to make everyone happy which is crazy hard considering how polarized the community is.

First time I've ever seen anyone ask this on the forum. I'll have to think about it and get back to you.

I had a different impression, OP mentioned how killers get more nerfs than survivors, not that they are weaker.

They nerfed toolboxes and increased the penalty for multiple suvivors working on a gen together.

They are biased towards new players, survivors. I remember from stats that roughly like 1% of the players have reached rank 1, so they don't care that much of high rank game play. You can see this from most of the updates and actions they make. Such as nerfing ruin to be less oppressive for new players (and overall weaker) ignoring how fast gens can go already in high ranks.

Most of the perks they also nerf they usually do small nerfs to survivor meta perks (exception of MoM, Sabo). But other survivor meta perks like sprint burst, DS have received multiple nerfs while still being meta. They are usually very cautious before making big changes to survivor perks or gameplay. Often times when killer meta perks get just ONE nerf they are no longer meta perks at all; STBFL, IG, spies, toth, unrelenting, ruin..

6,3% have reached rank 1 as survivor and 3,9% have reached rank 1 as killer, at least on Steam.