Was this tunneling?
Just came out of a game where after I got a 2k, one of the survivors said that I had tunneled him at the end and I disagreed with him over this.
This is what had happened (I was playing clown BTW). There was only one gen left and I was in a chase with him. He was injured and I was able to down him. The last gen got popped and he used his adrenaline to get back up. So I kept chasing him until I downed him again (this made sense to me as he was the only one injured and I couldn't see any other survivors around me). I hooked him when shortly after the survivors opened one of the gates. He gets saved but I'm back in time to hit his savior once. They both tried to race over to the gate. I was targeting the savior but the guy who got rescued was behind him so I had to hit him, otherwise they would both escape. I rushed the other survivor out and picked up the downed one again and hooked him. He then messaged me "nice tunnel noob".
Is he just being entitled or should I have let them go "for fairness". I like to think that I play fairly as killer. I would hardly ever tunnel and never camp (unless it's at the end). Can someone let me know?
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You technically did tunnel, but it's not your fault and you don't deserve hate for it.
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You didn’t tunnel I think the guy had bt to bodyblock you from hitting his friend but it most have ran out at the last second.
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Who cares if it was? Play how you play, man.
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I personally think you did fine. You got to realize there is a lot of people who play Killer in toxic fashions and that has created the over dramatic Survivor mind set. Even someone trying to playing fair and legit can trigger them cause they probably already faced 15 toxic camping tunnelers sucking any aspect of enjoyment of a match in the last few days. I do try hard to always play fair and advocate Killer players to try to be more mature and thoughtful of the other side, but even I get the "YOU CAMPED/TUNNELED ME." responses here and there.
But I know they may of just got out of a match with a Leatherface (please delete) player and are tilted. Lol.
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I can see from the survivor's perspective as this being "tunneling", but you did all you could.
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Most of the community seems to agree that once the last gen has popped, camping and tunneling isn't just okay, it's about the only play left to a killer. I mean, what're you supposed to do? You could "be nice" and let them go, but did any of them give you a free hook as a nicety? If they gave you a free hook, I could see their annoyance, but even then, I've given killers free hooks and never messaged them after because they still killed me.
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Tunnelling isn't a dirty word. Did you tunnel? Yes. Is that a bad thing? No. It was the only logical play in that situation.
No survivor is entitled to an escape. The only time you should let them go is if you want to let them go. While letting them go would have been "fair", technically, it wasn't in any way immoral of you not to do so, which seems to be what you're asking.
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Tunneling is a fine and OK tactic. What are you supposed to do? Just watch them leave. It's like they expect you to escort them out instead of to a hook. It's especially OK when it's at a vital stage of the game like 2 gens left and half done with all survivors still alive, it makes sense to tunnel.
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Don't worry about it. Play how ever you want. They just want to be mad at you to justify that they lost because of you, not themselves.
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He should have had DS because it is an anti tunneling perk so it was his poor perk choices or he didnt have it. Not your fault.
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Who cares if it was lmao. You shouldn't feel bad about playing a certain way as killer because you can bet your entire family that the survivors don't feel bad when they do it.
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you have to play as you want, if survivors don't like how the game is going on, then they will just disconnect. If you play killer worried about the unnoficial survivors rules, you will just give them a free escape sometimes. Even if you were tunneling, you have no obligation of being cool for survivors. A lot of times survivors complaining on post-game is just a cry ("bua, you must let me leave and teabag you at the door, i like to bully killers, buaaaa")
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This fan base is the most toxic when it claims things are toxic. Today I had a meg with a flashlight body blocking and trying to distract via t-bagging, I'm a baby still so I'm not that good yet, and so I tunneled the meg, face camped the meg, and got my 1k, which is more than I would have gotten had this meg not been greedy. (I'm pretty trash) After the game I got a lot of heat for not letting them rescue this meg after the last gen popped. What are we supposed to do? Go hide in the corner and let them get the save and escape and say gg?
They are just as entitled to escaping as you are to getting a K. Don't want to die? Don't get hit. Want to get a kill? Get some hits. That's literally the point of the game. You didn't have some moral obligation to let them escape.
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I really don't know some survivors mind. If they play swf, flashlighting click on you, teabagging, infinite loop, it's ok. But if you camp once all gens are done, or even, if you are chasing a survivor next to the hook instead of let the person get the save and let both leave, so you are a trash noob.
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A video would be nice. From the sounds of it, you had no choice.
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Yes, that was tunneling, but it was probably the best play given the situation. Survivors aren’t entitled to an escape, nor is there any rule that says they have to take turns on a hook. You were the killer and your job was to down, hook and kill. As long as you’re not doing something on purpose just to grief other players, you’re doing just fine.
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If the gates are powered, you don't really have a choice, it's like I was playing killer the other day, one person on hook and one person off opening doors, but the doors where close together on the complete opposite side of the map, so I patrolled the area, I didn't face camp, but I didn't leave, and why should I leave? I saw the safe survivor with B&C doing gates, why would I walk all the way across the map to a 99% door just so thr safe survivor can go unhook, heal and escape? So I got messaged about camping because of that lol just amazes me the survivors mind set, now your expect to not protect your hooked person if gates are done.
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Ooh I feel ya, I'm a rank 12 and I was against a rank 2 Tapp, he did nothing but tea bag when I chased him and then would constantly click his flashlight at me when I switched to another survivor who wasnt doing as good in a chace as that damn tapp was lol so he was clearing egging me on to chase him, so I did, I chased him all match, i suffered through dead hards, DS, adrenaline, unbreakable and a flashlight, he literally had the CHASE ME build on lol and I did exactly what he wanted, but because after all his hard work to escape me failed in the end, he had to message me crap after lol
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As far as i'm concerned all "survivor rules" are of the hook once the last gen popped
They had the chance to play the game and get points so there's nothing toxic about it
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Play how you want. You do not have to abide by the 'survivors handbook' otherwise everything you do as a killers is wrong...
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If you let a survivor go for "fairness" then you are not a killer. If tunneling is what you want to do or need to do, then do it. Ruin nerf is here soon and survivors must accept that this means war.
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You played fair. As long as they got a chance to actually get points for rank and currency I think it's fine.
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Tunneling is when the killer let's his emotional state dictate his actions in a game by focusing on a singular survivor at the cost of his own success.
It's really not half as common as people claim. People just don't like to lose.
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This game should be the free for all it was meant to be. No more pussy fairness crap. All the ######### talking about fairness should get away from their safe spaces. This is a slasher game after all. Would Michael Myers let Lorie escape? No. Would Freddy Krueger NOT kill someone in his dream? I thinknot.
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Trains go through tunnels so no, Fun is your goal not your opponents entitlement.
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I'm a survivor main but take tunneling differently than others. I get flattered when I get tunneled, and it often results in me and the Killer having fun chases. Which is 10x better than holding L1 all game. Heck some of my favourite matches have been when I've gotten tunneled.
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I feel the same way. It's why I run skins considered more flashy and toxic and bodyblock as much as possible.
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Tunneling is going after the same survivor even if given a choice to go after someone else. If you just happen to find the same person multiple times in a match by themself you pretty much have to go after them. I dont consider that tunneling
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Who cares, its unwritten
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That's not even tunneling to be honest, I feel like at some point simply downing survivors will be considered tunneling. Even if it was though, you are allowed to play the game the way you want to.
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That's not tunneling. That's playing killer.
Tunneling is when you single out a survivor and solely chase them, even against better options.
In this case you simply did what was needed of you to get your objective done, in the best way possible.
Survivors will always call down killers when they lose. It's easy for survivor to play this game, it's hard for Killers. Mechanically, and emotionally. The Dev's seem to ignore it, going as far as advertising streamers that openly mock portions of the community.
Wipe the dirt off, and try to have fun.
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Tunneling- Targeting 1 survivor despite having other, viable targets to eliminate them from the game or otherwise cause grief, leaving the others do do gens.
This is toxic, and generally runs counter to the killers goal of winning.
Not tunneling- playing the game normally and making the best decisions to win as a killer.
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Tunneling is one of the legit killers tactic. Dont be afraid of playing way you want. Even salty survivors will verbally attack you after game its not your fault. Tunneling, as well as camping and slugging, is legit tactic and you dont have to be afraid of use it. Dont listen to salty survivors, dont obey they imaginary "rulebook" and play style you like.
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I think what he said was fine, he just called you out for tunneling. It was not intentional on your part from what you're saying but it does happen sometimes. You did nothing wrong as well. The one mistake he made was that he should have been using Decisive Strike.
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Tell them to get used to it now that the main balancer perk is gone.
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In my point of view (and I'm a main survivor) and since there's really no clear definition of tunneling:
"Tunneling is going after the same person completly ignoring the others, when given the choice to go after another one."
In this case you didn't ignore the other since you hit him first and you weren't given a choice since the unhooked survivor was between you and the rescuer. To the survivor in question you were tunneling because he has a diferent and unreasonable definition of tunneling.
With that said, it doesn't matter, like many people already stated, it all comes down to the situation, you went for the only possible prey (not even the easiest since you, moste likely, wouldn't have time to go around that survivor to hit the other so...).
During the game, if you get late to the hook and see two sets of traking red marks going in oposite directions and you happen to follow the ones from the guy that as just been saved, that isn't tunneling either. I actually consider tunneling a "bad word" or a "nasty tactic" because to me, it implies intention. Not saying it can't be good for a killer to do that, but it is certainly bad for the survivor in question. In the example given in this pharagraph, altough the survivor might feel as being tunneled I don't consider it as such since it was non intentional.
With all this said, tunneling doesn't have a clear defenition and everyone sees it in slight diferent ways with slightly different definitions making it so that tunneling gives room to lots of anger amongst players. Even some people that consider tunneling as going after the same person no matter the situation that made it so, consider tunneling as an exclusively bad thing so like I use to say:
Toxic players will keep being toxic.
No matter what words people come up with, they will always have something to say in order to blame someone else for their failures. That was clearly a comment to try to make you feel bad for what happened instead of just moving along and try to figure out how to avoid it from happening... toxic players are lazy...
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