The Doctor Update is a Problem
Why is the doctor so overpowered? How can you possibly counter him? Why do unskillful killers like the doctor exist? Do you know how many times I had to resort to using a single pallet and then getting shocked making me unable to vault the pallet and unable to have the chance to properly mind game him? On top of that, his new ability makes it easier for him to camp and locate survivors even when they are down. Having a killer that can locate survivors as well as easily win chases and mind games seems very overpowered to me. He makes this game unplayable to survivors. If anyone can offer me advice to counter him, if their is a way, it would be much appreciated if you can inform me. I just hate how killers like the spirit, clown, and doctor are so overpowered and can easily win chases without the survivor even getting the chance to mind game.
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The bait was strong until i saw clown lol
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Did you just cal Clown out as overpowered? Either you are baiting or need more time to adapt to him. He's probably a solid D tier Killer alongside Bubba and Legion.
As for new Doc, I've only played him and not against. So I'm not sure what to tell you there. He's in a much better place though, he was surely a lot funner to play now.
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Lol still sucks
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The bait is becoming stronger
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My advice would be keep playing, keep learning and one day you'll go up to rank 19.
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Ok, I really not sure what to say to this. I was kinda with you a bit with your arguments against the Doctor, even if I disagree. Then you say the Clown is OP. That is when you lost me. As much as I actually enjoy playing as the Clown, he is well below being OP. Yeah, not OP. Not even sure how you could consider Clown OP. Are we playing the same game?
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This is some seriously low tier bait. Almost as low tier as the clown.
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Clown Op?
Ascended gamer!
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Don't know if bait... but doctor is actually one of the worse killers.
Oh no he knows where I am, now i'm going to die - such r15 mindset.
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Or bait
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Listen, the reason why the clown is overpowered (in my opinion) is that if you are at a pallet, he can slow you down restricting you not to properly mind game. But this isn’t about the clown it is about the doctor. You may think the clown is not overpowered, but that is your opinion
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The clown is overpowered because he can easily break you out of a pallet, but this is NOT ABOUT THE CLOWN! This is about the doctor
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Dude listen how do you counter the clown if you know what you are doing? I need this information because he completely makes windows and pallets useless and I am tired of it
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Even the horses are laughing.
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Clown nerf when :D
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God this community is having a fit over the fact that i mentioned the clown once? Are you guys blind, are you guys dyslexic? This whole post WASN’T ABOUT THE CLOWN. This game is has one of the most toxic communities ever. This is worst than those Modern Warfare 2 lobbies. It’s chock full of toxic people. As soon as someone has a different opinion, even if it is something that is irrelevant to the matter, it’s a bloody warfare. If you had a different opinion about the clown I would be glad to discuss our differences in a civilized manner but I can see that is not the case with you animals. And yet the funny thing is you all complain about the toxicity, you hypocrites. To be honest, I can’t wait til the shoe is on the other foot. God all this time dealing with you people and now I am becoming one of you. This community is driving me to madness kind of like how a certain killer, the one and only subject of this post, drives the survivors into madness.
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Since no one will give you advice besides "Get Gud" I will ^_^
Try running Calm Spirit against him. When he does his big shock (don't know the name) you don't scream. Also some doctors run certain add-on's that change his area of where his electricity is released, pay attention to the way it looks. This will make it easier for pallet play and knowing how far it travels so you can avoid it.
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Well someone's a master baiter aren't they?
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Perhaps Clown can be over-powered if you're against me.
One doesn't simply win against me. 😎
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The moment you put clown as overpowered you lost the 15% of people who thought of your post as a somewhat-reasonable complaint
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Unfortunately you're gonna have a tough time getting any productive discussion out of this thread after saying the clown thing.
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Clown is a D tier killer, which is why most people aren't even taking you seriously. If you can't beat Clown, you got some serious problems.
Clown only slows you a tad, he can't stop you at a pallet like the Doc can. As for the Doc, you just have to drop the pallet earlier and keep going. If you try to game him at a short loop with a downed pallet, he's just going to beat you with his shock every time. Instead of playing at the pallet, run to the longer part of the loop or the next one. If he's got you cornered at a short pallet, you've screwed up and deserve to be downed.
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Sorry I just realized that my previous message was a kinda toxic my bad
About the doctor complaints, he's always been able to do that action, but now it is less confusing and annoying to do as the killer. If you think that he will shock a pallet or window try to avoid the blast by running around the loop again or to another one. It is not a 100% counter but it seems like the best plan since the killer thinks that you will drop the pallet or vault and might make his swing too early, giving you a chance to outrun him.
Dont worry about his static blast if you manage to get calm spirit since you wont reveal your location, just the fact that you are in his terror radius which is not very usefull for the killer. Lastly I dont know if this works but if you hear his static blast charge you might want to get into a locker quickly since you dont scream while inside one, althought I have not tried this myself
Abt the community, it is mostly people that are rightfully angry and salty about one of the most usefull perks being nerfed greatly and seeing people complain about more killers is enough to tip them off
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From what I can tell is you want to stay as far away from him as possible or at least outside his terror radius. If he's chasing someone and making them scream on one side of the map, you go to the other side of the map and work on gens. If they come to your side, you quickly go to the opposite. Just keep doing that. At the beginning of the match I would just go into a locker since most docs seem to pulse immediately.
Mind gaming him is difficult because he's just really fast and has a power that he can throw through walls and obstacles to check if you're on the other side of without having to SEE if you're there. As weird as this sounds, try to break LOS and don't do any predictable loops and definitely don't try and loop around the same spot more than twice. He'll probably expect you to go for a pallet jump after you've thrown it down so fake it and then run off or just run away without the fake. It's best to keep moving forward at all times. When you think you've got some distance try to sneak off into a different direction so he doesn't know where you went and then go into a locker so he can't pulse you. If you can't break LOS this won't work or if you go into a locker too soon he'll probably check it, especially if its the only locker around. This has worked for me. Not every time but enough that I don't hate playing against him.
Your best bet, though? Hope he chases someone else. 🤣 So far he seems to slaughter everyone, especially on indoor maps or small maps.
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What works for me with clown? Going toward a window or pallet and then turning and running the opposite way once you hear him go for a throw. You want distance between you to do this. If there's none then I'd attempt the pallet or window anyway and hope it slows him down.
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I respect the advice but what happens if you have to resort to a pallet because the doctor is so near
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I appreciate that mate, like a lot, I wish you great luck in the fog
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Thank you for the advice, I was a little troubled with him, but I will try your technique!
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Thanks, no one really taught me how to counter him before, so i thank you for this piece of advice
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You too my man!
Just a quick note, dont take this guys so seriously. Most of them were really kinda memeing with the whole clown thing. You gotta relax and take it as them messing around with you a little :)
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Keep in mind the shockwave only occurs in his terror radius, and being in the locker renders you immune to it. So if you detect a pattern of when he likes to use it (like right after he hooks somebody), then you can prepare to avoid the blast by jumping in a locker.
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Alright can do, thanks for the advice!
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Thanks for the advice, I did not know hiding in a locker could prevent screaming and I will try to look for the patterns. Thank you!
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You survivors are all the same. You complain and nothing else. I'm so damn tired of you guys complaining as soon as there's a descent killer and getting him nerfed. Doctor isn't even overpowered and you're complaining. Seriously, killer isn't fun anymore because you guys sit there spamming the forums that "Killer name needs to be nerfed because I suck at DBD and don't know how to change my play style!"
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No, he's fine. You are the problem.
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Nah I figured how to counter him, his concept seemed very overpowered at first
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I know that now but he was seemingly overpowered at first
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Have allies who do gens is about all you need.
Clown has no movement and limited bottles, and the slowdown isn't too bad. He's still kinda suffering in pallet loops, you just can't get as many as against, say, Oni. Play safe, and once he's out, either transition to a stronger spot, or proceed to loop a powerless killer.
And know screaming doesn't show your aura, only where you are on the scream, and tbh, if you're running and the killer has a Headset, they'll know which way you're going anyways, so that parts not really a big use of it.
Honestly, Freddy Snares > Bottles.
As for doc, it should be about the same as before. Try to get your vaults in before he shocks, and try not to go in a path that you'll get boxed in if you do get shocked. If he goes to shock, you can keep running and try to avoid it.
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As a Doc main the things that almost always trip me up is survivors that run calm spirit, ones that drop pallets and run erratically (this one's hit or miss depending on the pallet and the surrounding loops), and those that don't bother trying to mind game. If you're attempting to mind game the doc you're gonna lose unless the doc is a potato, that's just the way his ability is built. There's been some great advice here, just ignore the people going off on you mentioning clown. I still have issues figuring out how to get around him, but I've also legitimately only played against him four times lol.
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Yeah. Like Killers are any better. I could point to all the "Dead Hard/Adrenaline/DS OP" threads on here, or the overabundance of "Gen Times" threads too.
Both sides cry like babies and need to grow up and you are just perpetuating the problem.
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Please tell me this is not serious.
Aren't people who play killer allowed to have actual viable picks? I swear if Doc gets nerfed in any other way than maybe having his cooldown increased to 2 seconds, I would go nuts.
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Thank you, I appreciate the support and advice!
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Nah now that I learned how to counter him, he is actually pretty balanced killer
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At your level, the Doctor update was a major nerf. He used to be able to expand his terror radius as big as it could get and he'd always know where everyone was.
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Good to hear that you keep an open mind about things. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I've just been waiting for this rework for a very long time so I just really hope they don't nerf Doc in any way from now on.
Just know that the reason some people probably came off as offensive with their replies is how you worded your main post, immediately saying how op Doc is and that he is an unskillful killer, which implies that people without skill can do good with him. That most likely came off as a bit offensive to some people. If my post seemed offensive, I apoligize.
Also, the fact that survivor queue times have increased because of the Ruin nerf always has me worried when another post appears about nerfing a killer.
Though I guess this does go to show how helpful tutorials to each killer would be.
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Don't greed pallets against him. You also seem to have a problem with clown and that's also a tip against him. If you keep looping a single tile he will eventually just catch up because they can both end chases relatively quickly so don't stand still at pallets, throw them early. If you see Doctor raise his hand to start shocking keep running around or run to the next loop because you can't mindgame pallets against him or clown.
(Some people have also said to run calm spirit. I wouldn't recommend it at all since not only does it make you die faster on the hook, you still receive the effects from the shock attack where you're not allowed to interact with anything for a few seconds)
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Sorry if I came off as offensive, I was just a bit frustrated with the change. I agree their should be tutorials on how to play as and counter certain killers. Good luck in the fog!
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Weird that I do well against most Doc's. And no, don't start with the "iT's JuSt a BaD kILeR" bullcrap. I recognize good and bad Killers.
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I didn’t start it with “iT’s JuSt a BaD kILeR” tho. And I’ll make sure to come to you for hindsight because you seem to be the best expert their is.
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