Dead Hard is just so universal and doesn't care about maps, unlike Balanced or Lithe and is activated when the survivor chooses unlike Sprint Burst.

Decisive Strike is used to stop tunnelling (or it is by me anyway) because spme killers dont care that survivors are people too.

Unbreakable is for slugging because they've been slugged for running DS.

Prove Thyself doesn't do much at all.

Most of the Survivor meta perks are just universally applicable.

NoED is just infuriating because there is zero warning. The only other Exposure effect that isn't given to you instantly is Devour Hope. THAT is the main problem that I have.

In my mind it should be a counter for Adrenaline, so the exposed effect is probably all it would need in theory. I understand that end game builds need something that gives them a speed boost, but getting it from noed seems misplaced. It's not op as is, just annoying as solo.

First I will say you are free to use whatever perks you wanna use, yes even No Ed.

Second, while I get that those survivors were wrong in judging your choices, I think comparing NoEd to all those perks you listed I disagree with. They don’t land a punch as much as No Ed does. I’m specifically talking about the overall effect, because the only requirement no ed has is that one totem wasn’t cleansed.

Run what you want or what you think is strongest for your killer. You don't see survivors running around with Deja Vu and Slippery Meat. People who only play one role complain the loudest with the least amount of logic. You'll run into that from time to time, especially with NOED. Nothing makes people's minds melt more than NOED for some reason. If you want everyone in a room to stop making sense, just bring up NOED.

I like how you start everything with "I'm bad" because that's not always the case. Most the time it's not the case. It just goes to show how much you don't like survivors when you immediately just say it's because they're bad.

But first off, your Prove Thyself example means that three survivors would have to be using it to go 30% faster. That's basically unheard of unless they're all doing the challenge at the same time. I've almost never seen anyone use Prove Thyself before the rift challenges.

Dead Hard basically prolongs a chase and that's it. The killer already hit them once. They're probably going to just hit them again. I don't even know why anyone complains about it. The only time it's frustrating is during end game when its used to escape. Other than that it bruises the killers ego for a few more seconds. lol

DS is a great perk for preventing players from being tunneled right off the hook but again it's probably a temporary thing because if the killer wants he can literally just keep chasing that person until he downs them again and he probably will since killers move faster than survivors.

Unbreakable? You can only get up once. Once. It's not going to ever break the game. Most people use it right away on the first time they're downed anyway which tends to be in the beginning or middle of a match. Easy solution? Hook the survivor. Hooks are every fifteen feet anyway (I have countless pics to prove this).

NOED I'm not even going to comment on it. But you can knock survivor perks and then make excuses for killer perks. That's so biased its not even funny.

As far as the original post goes? It blows my mind that survivors killed before NOED was even active would comment about it. That just... doesn't make sense and makes them look stupid. Now if they had outplayed you the whole game and were killed because of NOED at the end I can see why they would be salty.

Why do people compare killer perks to survivor perks when killer perks are suppose to be more powerful since it's a 1V4. Where does this notion come that survivor perks have to be on the same level as killer perks? Aside from this, NOED doesn't hand you the game, it punishes survivors for not doing totems

I agree completely, if more than one person dies because of NOED then that is just bad play by the survivors. Don't try and save someone while NOED is active, either cleanse the totem (like you should have done during the match) or leave.

Dead hard can't really be baited when people are using it to gain distance

Bunch of babies, all you have to do is cleanse the totems, not hard to do or all you guys want to do is rush gens? If noed is active, it's your team's fault

I have had invisible totems before, and I am not dedicating a whole perk to that small possibility. And no, I want to be chased to get Chaser up. I want to heal others to get Altruism.

I don't have a cry whenever I lose, and I call it as I see it. NoED is the pinnacle of bad perk design, and I am not one to abuse perks in some sort of vein hope that people actually have some respect. Don't lump me in the same boat as those tryhards.

Is it a quick way to lose as killer? I find it depends on the team. And yes, there needs to be anti-tunnelling perks because getting deleted from a match is not good for anyone.

As for the "immunity" that's a perfect opportunity to leave them on the floor. They have Unbreakable? They have just wasted it. You have the tools as killer to punish bad survivor play, so USE THEM.

Except you can keep downing them in the same area where all the resources are drained.

Eh tbh I don't remember all the nuance of it. Your point?

As much as I dislike NOED and think it's unhealthy for the game, I also think the same about DS, BT, Unbreakable etc. Second chance perks on either side are unhealthy crutches. I agree though, this double standard does happen a lot.

They can't complain about your Noed but you can complain about their (God I hate this stupid term) "second chance" perks? Both sides have whiny little bitches. Just play the game ffs.

I read it as if Micheal Jordan was telling me in a commercial.

Thanks

Just because you can't hit red ranks doesn't mean nobody can. Keep practicing, you'll get there one day little buddy.

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