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Play with the devs stream feedback

Tsulan
Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

So Mathieu asked us to provide feedback regarding the stream:

  • please consider showing high rank gameplay. Highest killer was Horvath with rank 14 and survivors played around rank 18-20 with Janick failing every gen skill check there was (achievement unlocked). The game experience is completely different on high ranks!
  • that being said, i really enjoyed watching the devs play and hope you repeat this on a more regular base (but please on higher ranks)
  • pretty pretty please, do a proper killer/survivor/perk/map reveal before the PTB. Don´t keep us in the dark until the PTB. This has been in mistake in the past (the pig) and you are repeating it. So please, do a proper reveal instead of just releasing the PTB.

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  • Might_Oakk
    Might_Oakk Member Posts: 1,243

    I fully agree with the last point.

    It would of been much more fun if they did a showcase for the new killer this stream before the ptb. Plenty of other games have an official reveal before ptb and it's much more hype.

  • TheGodfather
    TheGodfather Member Posts: 46
    Well, considering the developers rank, they are potatoes or they not play their game
  • Damarus
    Damarus Member Posts: 600

    Gathering news on the new content (map, killer and survivor) is the only reason why I watched the stream. I had hopes for them to at least give us a sneak peek, but nothing. I just wasted my time watching all of the stream. But, I must admit, Janick failing every skill check gave me good laughs. Anyway, I thought the whole purpose of the live stream was to reveal the new content, and not doing that was a mistake. I'm sure I am not the only one who was there just for that. Add to this the fact that I won't even be able to play PTB because I am on console, so I will have to wait for somebody to upload videos about it. Cherry on top of the cake.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Tsulan said:
    So Mathieu asked us to provide feedback regarding the stream:

    • please consider showing high rank gameplay. Highest killer was Horvath with rank 14 and survivors played around rank 18-20 with Janick failing every gen skill check there was (achievement unlocked). The game experience is completely different on high ranks!
    • that being said, i really enjoyed watching the devs play and hope you repeat this on a more regular base (but please on higher ranks)
    • pretty pretty please, do a proper killer/survivor/perk/map reveal before the PTB. Don´t keep us in the dark until the PTB. This has been in mistake in the past (the pig) and you are repeating it. So please, do a proper reveal instead of just releasing the PTB.

    Imagine if they showed high rank gameplay, ofc they can hack themselves to rank 1, but we see what happened at the asian event with cote, obviously they dont want to be bullied

    Also the fps were so bad.... no words

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    So Mathieu asked us to provide feedback regarding the stream:

    • please consider showing high rank gameplay. Highest killer was Horvath with rank 14 and survivors played around rank 18-20 with Janick failing every gen skill check there was (achievement unlocked). The game experience is completely different on high ranks!
    • that being said, i really enjoyed watching the devs play and hope you repeat this on a more regular base (but please on higher ranks)
    • pretty pretty please, do a proper killer/survivor/perk/map reveal before the PTB. Don´t keep us in the dark until the PTB. This has been in mistake in the past (the pig) and you are repeating it. So please, do a proper reveal instead of just releasing the PTB.

    Imagine if they showed high rank gameplay, ofc they can hack themselves to rank 1, but we see what happened at the asian event with cote, obviously they dont want to be bullied

    Also the fps were so bad.... no words

    But that would have been a realistic high rank match. They need to see how SWF deathsquads are on high ranks. They do everything to make the solo survivor as strong as SWF. But it doesn´t look like they know what it really feels like to play vs SWF on high ranks. There was 0 looping shown. Just a survivor who dropped one pallet after another and still managed to walk Horvath around the map. You know how that chase would have looked with a rank 1 looper who knows exactly when to drop the pallet.

  • Echelonia
    Echelonia Member Posts: 26

    @fakelove said:
    Might have no relevance in the given context but, Stefan is one handsome guy, sorry not sorry

    I feel you^^ Could watch him all day long ;-)

    @Tsulan said:
    So Mathieu asked us to provide feedback regarding the stream:

    • please consider showing high rank gameplay. Highest killer was Horvath with rank 14 and survivors played around rank 18-20 with Janick failing every gen skill check there was (achievement unlocked). The game experience is completely different on high ranks!
    • that being said, i really enjoyed watching the devs play and hope you repeat this on a more regular base (but please on higher ranks)
    • pretty pretty please, do a proper killer/survivor/perk/map reveal before the PTB. Don´t keep us in the dark until the PTB. This has been in mistake in the past (the pig) and you are repeating it. So please, do a proper reveal instead of just releasing the PTB.

    +1

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Damarus said:
    Gathering news on the new content (map, killer and survivor) is the only reason why I watched the stream. I had hopes for them to at least give us a sneak peek, but nothing. I just wasted my time watching all of the stream. But, I must admit, Janick failing every skill check gave me good laughs. Anyway, I thought the whole purpose of the live stream was to reveal the new content, and not doing that was a mistake. I'm sure I am not the only one who was there just for that. Add to this the fact that I won't even be able to play PTB because I am on console, so I will have to wait for somebody to upload videos about it. Cherry on top of the cake.

    I remember when they released the Pig and Xbox got the dlc first. People gathered every piece of information from the internet. It was a ugly mess. The new killer is already finished. They could have shown us who is it. With another trailer and explaining what his powers are, how the perks work. A nice how to video like Heroes of the Storm does on every heroe. THATS how you do a reveal. People should know what to expect, see the power and what it can be used for.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    So Mathieu asked us to provide feedback regarding the stream:

    • please consider showing high rank gameplay. Highest killer was Horvath with rank 14 and survivors played around rank 18-20 with Janick failing every gen skill check there was (achievement unlocked). The game experience is completely different on high ranks!
    • that being said, i really enjoyed watching the devs play and hope you repeat this on a more regular base (but please on higher ranks)
    • pretty pretty please, do a proper killer/survivor/perk/map reveal before the PTB. Don´t keep us in the dark until the PTB. This has been in mistake in the past (the pig) and you are repeating it. So please, do a proper reveal instead of just releasing the PTB.

    Imagine if they showed high rank gameplay, ofc they can hack themselves to rank 1, but we see what happened at the asian event with cote, obviously they dont want to be bullied

    Also the fps were so bad.... no words

    But that would have been a realistic high rank match. They need to see how SWF deathsquads are on high ranks. They do everything to make the solo survivor as strong as SWF. But it doesn´t look like they know what it really feels like to play vs SWF on high ranks. There was 0 looping shown. Just a survivor who dropped one pallet after another and still managed to walk Horvath around the map. You know how that chase would have looked with a rank 1 looper who knows exactly when to drop the pallet.

    I know, but just like me, they dont want to play those matches and I understand that because I dont wanna play such games either.
    Its more fun to play the game as intended, i.e. without loopnig and enjoying the balance of low rank where the killer actually feels like the power role

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Tsulan said:

    @Damarus said:
    Gathering news on the new content (map, killer and survivor) is the only reason why I watched the stream. I had hopes for them to at least give us a sneak peek, but nothing. I just wasted my time watching all of the stream. But, I must admit, Janick failing every skill check gave me good laughs. Anyway, I thought the whole purpose of the live stream was to reveal the new content, and not doing that was a mistake. I'm sure I am not the only one who was there just for that. Add to this the fact that I won't even be able to play PTB because I am on console, so I will have to wait for somebody to upload videos about it. Cherry on top of the cake.

    I remember when they released the Pig and Xbox got the dlc first. People gathered every piece of information from the internet. It was a ugly mess. The new killer is already finished. They could have shown us who is it. With another trailer and explaining what his powers are, how the perks work. A nice how to video like Heroes of the Storm does on every heroe. THATS how you do a reveal. People should know what to expect, see the power and what it can be used for.

    I think that for some reason they want it to be a surprise.

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  • Damarus
    Damarus Member Posts: 600

    @Delfador said:
    I think that for some reason they want it to be a surprise.

    Surprise or not, following the First Cut teaser it seems quite obvious it is going to be Kuchisake-Onna.

  • Larcz
    Larcz Member Posts: 531
    I watch then 5 or 10min and quit.I just start think not funy and no news also low ranks.What is the point watch this.I dont watch next one waste of time.
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Larcz said:
    I watch then 5 or 10min and quit.I just start think not funy and no news also low ranks.What is the point watch this.I dont watch next one waste of time.

    Oh i found it quite interesting. Devs played on their rank and experienced the game the same way they envision it. That´s why they think they did a pretty good job. Which would explain some balance choices.
    Playing on higher ranks is a whole different story tho.

  • Action_Jaxon
    Action_Jaxon Member Posts: 73

    How about addressing actual issues and major complaints in regards to the game next time? The whole stream felt like it was thrown together last minute and done simply because they said they were gonna do one which made the whole company look piss poor in my opinion.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    So Mathieu asked us to provide feedback regarding the stream:

    • please consider showing high rank gameplay. Highest killer was Horvath with rank 14 and survivors played around rank 18-20 with Janick failing every gen skill check there was (achievement unlocked). The game experience is completely different on high ranks!
    • that being said, i really enjoyed watching the devs play and hope you repeat this on a more regular base (but please on higher ranks)
    • pretty pretty please, do a proper killer/survivor/perk/map reveal before the PTB. Don´t keep us in the dark until the PTB. This has been in mistake in the past (the pig) and you are repeating it. So please, do a proper reveal instead of just releasing the PTB.

    Imagine if they showed high rank gameplay, ofc they can hack themselves to rank 1, but we see what happened at the asian event with cote, obviously they dont want to be bullied

    Also the fps were so bad.... no words

    First off, Tsulan is right, the Devs played horribly and if that is their gameexperience, I totally get why they are balancing the game around rank 20 noobs.

    And the FPS had been so bad, I could only watch it half way through, because I got a headache from it.

    But I would had enjoyed to watch Pat more.^^

  • Esheon
    Esheon Member Posts: 568
    edited August 2018
    Wolf74 said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    So Mathieu asked us to provide feedback regarding the stream:

    • please consider showing high rank gameplay. Highest killer was Horvath with rank 14 and survivors played around rank 18-20 with Janick failing every gen skill check there was (achievement unlocked). The game experience is completely different on high ranks!
    • that being said, i really enjoyed watching the devs play and hope you repeat this on a more regular base (but please on higher ranks)
    • pretty pretty please, do a proper killer/survivor/perk/map reveal before the PTB. Don´t keep us in the dark until the PTB. This has been in mistake in the past (the pig) and you are repeating it. So please, do a proper reveal instead of just releasing the PTB.

    Imagine if they showed high rank gameplay, ofc they can hack themselves to rank 1, but we see what happened at the asian event with cote, obviously they dont want to be bullied

    Also the fps were so bad.... no words

    First off, Tsulan is right, the Devs played horribly and if that is their gameexperience, I totally get why they are balancing the game around rank 20 noobs.

    And the FPS had been so bad, I could only watch it half way through, because I got a headache from it.

    But I would had enjoyed to watch Pat more.^^

    I had the same problem with the FPS.

    I wouldn't mind seeing more events like this, but I'd prefer higher ranks and they really need to smooth out the FPS and balance the volume better.

    It really did seem like it was thrown together at the last moment, TBH.
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    I'm sorry you guys are all ridiculous. The devs played fine they played at mix ranks killers were Huntress and trapper. The survivor side also played fine. Freddy at rank 20 is better because survivors don't work together. This wasn't some tournament style against high rank survivors and killers or against well known streamers. Them delivering news and dropping tidbits while we watched devs play was fun and different. The fps drop guess what it is on console every day. Those of you so negative about everything need a life outside of DBD. They make mistakes with the game and communication but it isn't all bad. Did you want another mashup or maybe see some art work? How about some lore questions about what the entity sees as a perfect day or favorite holiday?

  • Action_Jaxon
    Action_Jaxon Member Posts: 73

    @fcc2014 said:
    I'm sorry you guys are all ridiculous. The devs played fine they played at mix ranks killers were Huntress and trapper. The survivor side also played fine. Freddy at rank 20 is better because survivors don't work together. This wasn't some tournament style against high rank survivors and killers or against well known streamers. Them delivering news and dropping tidbits while we watched devs play was fun and different. The fps drop guess what it is on console every day. Those of you so negative about everything need a life outside of DBD. They make mistakes with the game and communication but it isn't all bad. Did you want another mashup or maybe see some art work? How about some lore questions about what the entity sees as a perfect day or favorite holiday?

    I could care less about what rank they were playing at or how good/bad they performed. What I do care about is that this page has been full of posts about how terrible frame rates on consoles are and how bad the disconnecting epidemic has been when it comes to both killers and survivors when things don't go their way. New cosmetics, killers and survivors are all well and good but mean very little when the game play is suffering as bad as it currently is.

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @Action_Jaxon said:

    I could care less about what rank they were playing at or how good/bad they performed. What I do care about is that this page has been full of posts about how terrible frame rates on consoles are and how bad the disconnecting epidemic has been when it comes to both killers and survivors when things don't go their way. New cosmetics, killers and survivors are all well and good but mean very little when the game play is suffering as bad as it currently is.

    I agree the frame rate is a mess as well as disconnecting. I'm on ps4 and see and experience all of this in droves. This topic and thread was about devs playing which turned in to something else about balance.

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737

    @Tsulan said:
    failing every gen skill check there was (achievement unlocked)

    "Blame McLean.

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    I couldn't watch it - the Frame drops were making me crazy.

  • Action_Jaxon
    Action_Jaxon Member Posts: 73

    @fcc2014 said:

    @Action_Jaxon said:

    I could care less about what rank they were playing at or how good/bad they performed. What I do care about is that this page has been full of posts about how terrible frame rates on consoles are and how bad the disconnecting epidemic has been when it comes to both killers and survivors when things don't go their way. New cosmetics, killers and survivors are all well and good but mean very little when the game play is suffering as bad as it currently is.

    I agree the frame rate is a mess as well as disconnecting. I'm on ps4 and see and experience all of this in droves. This topic and thread was about devs playing which turned in to something else about balance.

    I guess it is kind of my fault I went into the stream thinking that while they were playing they would at least address gameplay issues. Unfortunately it seems like more and more games are going the route of focusing more on transactions and less on actually making the game an enjoyable experience. Ever since Friday the 13th has been dead in the water it feels like Behaviour is just costing a long instead of bettering their overall product. It's really disappointing and everyday it gets a little bit harder for me to even wanna turn on the game.

  • Usui
    Usui Member Posts: 531

    Reminder these are the guys who balance this game. EleGiggle

  • RepliCant
    RepliCant Member Posts: 1,436

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    So Mathieu asked us to provide feedback regarding the stream:

    • please consider showing high rank gameplay. Highest killer was Horvath with rank 14 and survivors played around rank 18-20 with Janick failing every gen skill check there was (achievement unlocked). The game experience is completely different on high ranks!
    • that being said, i really enjoyed watching the devs play and hope you repeat this on a more regular base (but please on higher ranks)
    • pretty pretty please, do a proper killer/survivor/perk/map reveal before the PTB. Don´t keep us in the dark until the PTB. This has been in mistake in the past (the pig) and you are repeating it. So please, do a proper reveal instead of just releasing the PTB.

    Imagine if they showed high rank gameplay, ofc they can hack themselves to rank 1, but we see what happened at the asian event with cote, obviously they dont want to be bullied

    Also the fps were so bad.... no words

    But that would have been a realistic high rank match. They need to see how SWF deathsquads are on high ranks. They do everything to make the solo survivor as strong as SWF. But it doesn´t look like they know what it really feels like to play vs SWF on high ranks. There was 0 looping shown. Just a survivor who dropped one pallet after another and still managed to walk Horvath around the map. You know how that chase would have looked with a rank 1 looper who knows exactly when to drop the pallet.

    but...but...

    i don't wanna be as strong as SWF.. :( ....

  • Gibberish
    Gibberish Member Posts: 1,063
    edited August 2018

    @Usui said:
    Reminder these are the guys who balance this game. EleGiggle

    Yeah, its pretty easy to see how Survivors stay overpowered when the devs dont even know how to play their own game.
    Seriously, if they are this incompetent at something that THEY MADE THEMSELVES, how do they function in real life?
    Are they just the real life versions of people in infomercials who fail at basic everyday tasks?