Wraith Bodyblocking Bannable?
Wraith bodyblocked one survivor in one of the solo gen rooms in Haddonfield. We finished all 5 gens and refused to open the exit gates. We are still in the match at the time of me posting this. I invited the other survivors into a chat and we aren't opening any exits until the Wraith either moves or quits. We have the guy's PlayStation Network ID. Where do I go to properly report this behavior?
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It's bannable since it's taking the game hostage, but I can't remember where to post a ticket about it
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It's not bannable because the other survivors can repair all the generators and open the exit gates to trigger the End Game Collapse and put a hard limit to the game.
It's on OP for delaying the game by purposely not opening the exit gate after finishing the generators.
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Entitled survivors strike again
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Its not bannable, there are more than 5 generators spawned each map, the other survivors can repair those generators and open the gates.
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Hello,
Please gather all evidence you have about this instance and submit it through customer support under the "Additional player report information" category for review by the ACM team: https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us
We will answer your ticket as soon as we can!
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not bannable the game can end, survivors are holding the game hostage not the killer.
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So you are refusing to open the gates and are trying to get this guy banned because your friend believes he is entitled to escaping?
Sounds like your friends going to die to end game collapse.
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I don't think it's bannable even though it should be
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You are the one holding the game hostage and you are the one that would end up banned.
I only bodyblock survivors when I am killer near the end of the game and if a hit may end up allowing to escape, I may as well block them and play the waiting game during the Endgame Collapse. It works quite well in the Thompson house; a kill's a kill - no matter what. 😎
I once blocked two survivors from escaping; I ain't going to hit you and let you get the quick burst of speed to be able to escape, so I may as well bodyblock and play the waiting game.
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no the devs have said its bannable if you body block for over 30 seconds, the only reason to bodyblock is if you think they have borrowed time or something along those lines.
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When did they say that? Can you link?
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" I invited the other survivors into a chat and we aren't opening any exits until the Wraith either moves or quits. "
Sounds to me like y'all are holding the game captive until he does what you want him to do.
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People really justifying this-
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i cant remember but it was said when you could bodyblock survivors in the basement, idk things could of changed by now but im pretty sure its still bannable, if anything for a day or something.
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I mean both sides are very scummy
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Lmao because the behavior of the survivors in this instance isn’t just as bad?
Get out of here. They’re the ones that can be reported as they’re taking the game hostage, not the wraith. He just admitted they refused to opened the gates until the Wraith moves or quits = they’re holding the Killer hostage.
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That was before egc was a thing, killer could indefinitely block survivors in the basement. Due to egc that doesn't apply anymore.
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But the Wraith had the audacity to do it before the gens got popped is concerning. And even if the survivors can get "reported" the killer can for not partaking in normal gameplay
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They’re not partaking in “normal gameplay” either by refusing to finish the game. It doesn’t matter if he did it before gens popped. They still have the option to finish the game and this survivor die by EGC or the killer. They’re too busy feeling entitled to a 4e. Get over yourselves. The killer is not in the wrong. He’s securing a kill.
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You can't bodyblock survivors for extended periods of time... You can bodyblock to hit them that's fine.
Quote from @Peanits
Bodyblocking is bannable when it is used to hold the game hostage or grief, such as blocking a survivor in a corner and sitting there for a long period of time just so they can't play. Or sandbagging, where you intentionally jump in from of someone and block their path so the killer hits them.
Taken from : https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/36376/what-is-classed-as-bannable-body-blocking
Really surprised at some of these responses..
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You do realize that a game official just posted in this thread with the link and a statement that they will get to the ticket as soon as they can, right? (Shiroku's response)
The killer was not protecting anything. He refused to play the game, stood in the only evt so the one player could not get out. Let all the gens get done and remained standing there. That is taking the game hostage and is not protected behavior.
Sometimes the people in this game surprise me with the depth of their blind bias, but it is not often. You, sir, are surprisingly blind as well as anyone else defending this behavior.
Edit: One more thing, thanks to this arsehat of a player (the Wraith) they will likely add a window to that room so it won't happen again. So this special snowflake (the wraith player) just gave survivors an easy out that was otherwise a guaranteed hit for my Trapper. So, killer mains, you should be pizzed at this guy, not defending him.
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Yeah, because standing by a survivor who can't move since the first gen popped till the last is "Securing a kill". Get over yourself.
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What the wraith is doing is very unsportsmanlike, but I don't think it's a banable offence. The survivors are likelier to get banned for holding the game hostage, it's best to end this childish game of chicken and start egc and move on to the next game.
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I wouldn’t say it’s the survivors being entitled. The killer shouldn’t just stand there and do nothing if there are no obstacles between him and the target. In a way he’s holding the game hostage as much as the survivors are by not opening the gates.
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How are the survivors holding the game hostage when the Wraith can hit the survivor(s) at any given time? Wraith can start a chase and play the game as intended and thus is NOT being held hostage. The only one who is being held hostage is the solo survivor in the corner as said solo survivor has absolutely 0% power over the actions of the killer.
Besides - bodyblocking someone in a corner for 5 gens can't be justified in anyway whatsoever unless you consider griefing a good and healthy thing in terms of gameplay and the future of this game.
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So the devs are just gonna let the killer who's been bodyblocking a survivor in a corner since gen one isn't gonna punish the killer? Imagine if this was a hatch scenario.
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The instances of bodyblocking that are considered griefing are:
-Locking a survivor into a corner and going AFK, as either role.
-Standing in front of a survivor and not unhooking them, denying other survivors the option to unhook.
-Blocking other survivors intentionally to put them in harms way (sandbagging).
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He's holding that survivor hostage in the room but the other 3 survivors are holding both the killer and survivor hostage in the game. They literally have the power to end it, sure wraith will get one kill but I don't he'll get much much bp for it.
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I agree, just because the Killer doesn’t break the rule doesn’t mean it’s not wrong.
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yeah its considered griefing, which is not participating in normal gameplay which is farming, bodyblocking to where a survivor or killer cannot move, or throwing down all of the pallets just because you want to.
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The survivors that are not bodyblocked have the option to literally finish the game. EGC can be activated this the game can not be held hostage for that 1 survivor. His ability to escape is prevented but the overall game is not being held hostage. All of you are crybaby entitled Survivors that think every game deserves to be 4 escapes.
Once more, get over yourselves. Activate the gates, get out and move on.
This thread is literally OP crying because his friend couldn’t escape with him as if this is a real life or death situation. It’s a ######### video game that is already a disaster.
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I know that, I’m not saying he should get banned or anything, it’s just people shouldn’t defend this type of gameplay. It’s just scummy.
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ok guys can a dev please confirm or deny if its bannable, i mean a mod legit showed where to report it so its obviously bannable
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It's already confirmed. It is bannable. I linked the quote above from Peanits, along with a link to the direct quote from him in an older thread posted months ago. This is not acceptable behavior.
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You are right, it's scummy from both sides which should be acknowledged. Neither side has taken the higher route. Both are being stubborn, if the survivors recorded it happening and left, nobody would have much issue but there is an air of hypocrisy in the whole "well we're not gonna leave either" thing.
Two wrongs don't make a right basically.
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Not bannable, the game can be ended. If he trapped ALL of you, THEN it would be bannable
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Fyi
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The post you linked was prior to the Endgame Collapse where it was considered taking the game hostage. Since the implementation of EGC this is no longer taking the game hostage and the rules for body blocking have been amended. Post was from 2018, EGC is from 2019.
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Everyone is sweaty, it's gross and stinks, what an annoying game it can be.
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Here is me saying this advanced
I am not defending the way this wraith is playing im just possible debating the reason as to how he is going to be banned
It probably is bannable due to Griefing not holding the game hostage, since with EGC it makes it harder to call this holding the fame hostage in this scenario. Becauae the other survivors have the means to end it
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Correct, but I still think the Wraith is being a bit more unreasonable than the survivors are. He’s obviously realized that he lost the match, so he chose to make one person miserable. Just take the loss and move on.
I love sneaking up on someone in that room and blocking the door with Wraith. I find it to be funny when the survivor sees me uncloak and starts to panic. I’ll let them run around in circles for about 30 seconds while I ring the bell. Then I’ll hit them.
I need to try it with Ghostface so I could twerk with them
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You still can not trap someone for the entirety of the game. That hasn't changed.
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No, OP is mad because it's a blatant exploit. If the goal was to do anything but grief he would:
1) Hook the guy.
2) Slug him and let him bleed to death if he don't want to risk a BT/DS combo.
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Per OP, he was not trapped the entire game.
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I literally posted a screenshot showing that bodyblocking isn't a bannable offence
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look at mine where it is
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If we go by your logic then nobody is being held hostage. The survivors can kill the trapped survivor by activating the EGC ending the match and the killer can just hit the survivor(s) and chase them - again ending the match.
Good thing we cleared that up. However even if we ignored the bannable offense "holding the game hostage" the killer can still get banned for "griefing/intentional gameplay abuse" if they got actual footage of the killer trapping the survivor in that corner for 5 generators/all game.
As for the whiny "YoU dOn'T agReE wiTh mE wHiCh MeAnS yOu'Re A sUrviVoR mAiN": That's where you would have lost any credibility if you had ever posted something reasonable.
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There are multiple ways to bodyblock.. that says in general "bodyblocking". Body-blocking to hit someone is NOT bannable and you are correct in that sense. Bodyblocking for an extended period etc to grief or whatever else is bannable... Don't get me wrong, I think their rules need to be way better worded and explained. Because of exactly this. People get confused. So, I don't blame anyone for seemingly misinterpreting them. They shouldn't be confusing for people.
That's not what I read... In any case it looks like they are going to investigate the matter... Hopefully we can just have them RE-clarify for everyone.
@Zixology Please follow those instructions and let us know what happens. Maybe a dev will respond to any "new" rules that may have changed or been amended since changes and updates to the game. That'd be great.
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Not really, we're just pointing out that it's not bannable. Taking the game hostage is defined by the lack of a way to end the match other than disconnecting. In this instance, the match can be ended, by the Survivors completing all generators and triggering the EGC.
Does is suck for the Survivor being bodyblocked? Yes. I can understand their frustration. But it is not bannable.
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