An MMR system for Dead by Daylight can never work

Could be an issue.

though you wouldn't need to know the exact number perhaps a ^ or ^^ to indicate higher than you, or much higher than you. and a down arrow or double down arrow for the lower or much lower than you. this tells you information without knowing specific information.

People kind of are doing that now with ranks. At least you know why LilTimmy69 goes down so fast is because he installed the game last week compared to HEX:Yolo who threw to derank or troll.

A hidden MMR will just lead to fustration because all that there is left to tell you how "well" people did is the BP gained.

I mean, it is possible

But very time consuming, as it would mean you have to do this for every killer. For instance, if you use instakill hatchets on Huntress, you have a score penalty

or take in mind the heal score event only after a chase ends and while that person is not being chased, like old BT

Same if you cannot heal him because of things like No Mither, deliverance, or being infected by Plague. Stop the timer there or do not count it as "you are a bad teammate"

but let's be real, the code will be so messy

Yes they do. No shown ranks = less toxic people

No shown ranks = less players

There people who like challenge and do not enjoy being matched against baby players.

Also there are people who enjoy seeing themselves improve as a player.

You want to kick all those people out because someone laughed at your rank or whatever?

I think it is possible to do fair matchmaking system, thats why I trust them.

But I still want to see matchmaking values (skill rating) to see if the system even works or not.

Another point to further back up this tread is the killer different MMR. Although is the best thing and the only thing I liked about future changes, it still ignores the fact (I assume) that the same thing happens for survivors. A survivor might be good playing against a certain killer but bad playing against another it it will still not be considered nor it can be considered since the killer might change after the lobby is created. Hell, even the killer might choose a different one after the lobby is created unless it is blocked from the lobby search. If that happens, and all 4 survivors have toolboxes, the killer might want to put in franklin's demise, but wait, he doesn't have franklyn's with that character!!! Now what? Perks themselves are choosen, many times based on what killers see in the lobby so lobby dodging might be a more frequent thing.

I've always said and I stick to it that the best way to adjust matchmaking is just making it color based instead of ranking number. It will make bad survivors and bad killers out of the color more frequently. Than rank reset wouldn't push people out of the color but to the lowest number of that color so, a red rank survivor would go to rank 4 with 0 pips. Some small adjustments to the piping system would be enough to improve it after the color base matchmaking system is in place. Changing the matchmaking to color would improve the player experience by itself a lot in terms of being paired up with similar skill level players. The idea behind rank reset doesn't send people to the previous color is that whenever rank reset happens, people that get to the highest rank first don't get stuck without anyone to play against.

A small amount of "if's" would aslso help a lot like:

If a survivor survives, he safe pips.

If a killer gets 4k he safe pips.

Oh, but if a guy does nothing he escapes through the hatch and safe pips. Yes, it helps in the short run but in the long run (after a few matches) he will depip because it will basically be 3 against one continuously.

They can always adjust the game from there and I honestly don't think the changes their planning will be good because they will try to measure an unmeasurable thing: Skill. Too many variables to rightfully measure it.

I honestly think that BHVR missunderstood everyone when we said we weren't having fun because of matchmaking. We all know that there will never be a perfect matchmaking system in an assymetrical game with a lot of RNG. We only asked for an improvement so that matches don't feel so unbalanced. The current ranking system might not be bad (I've actually always said that) the problem is that matchmaking system is based on the wrong premiss: Rank number instead of rank color. All 5 players should have the same color (except for survive with friends were there's nothing to do about it but for that, basing the killer on the high rank survivor will do the trick since the others won't be able to keep up with him and the red rank survivor will be penalized in terms of rank for it has he should).

Maybe you will know but you can never be sure.

I dont really see any problem with people seeing your rank, everyone in the match should be the same rank anyway

Lots of potential problems with it. A Clown on Thompson house against 4k hr survivors isn't necessarily a bad player. Nor is throwing down objectively safe pallets a measure of skill. Unless map/tile knowledge = skill in this context. We'll see.

If the new system can just improve load times and connection, then I'm happy. I'm so use to playing with complete potatoes and sweaty killers I honestly dont care, just please end my suffering with the 10 to 15 min wait times.

The emblems are probably as good as it'll get, they just need a logic-based and robust overhaul

This is why this game should never be treated competitively, no matter how we feel about it when we play. Its 4 v 1, it is never intended to be a competition to give it so much thought to the point where we forget that its main goal is to simply enjly ourselves. I' m curious to know what is your real life job and if you have ANY sort of real life responsabilities, seeing that you have all this free time at your disposal to debate the state of a videogame . I love dead by daylight as much as all of you, and i spend my free time playing it to the points where , in the past 2 years i accumulated 2100 hours on steam. BUT to actually waste my time and thoughts on theories and hypotheses on a virtual reality, which at the end of the day this game really is, seems utterly pointless, childish , and it gives the feeling that you don't have any real life priorities. I'm sorry i come of as harsh/rude , i am a dead by daylight fan , but not to the point where i become so obsessed that i must analize every aspect of it as if its something essential to my existance. And i apologise if my comment seems unfair . I just don't see the point of analizing a videogame so much. I dunno....i guess thats my 2 cents on things. Maybe when everyone here will get to a certain age, have kids of their own and priorities, they will understand what i meen when i say that "analizing a videogame, reguardless if you love it or not, is a childish thing to do"

You are the same kind of person who would have written off smash bros as a "party game"

If you're referring to ScottJund, he's a full-time streamer and content creator. So, video games are his income.

Apparently you have enough free time to necro a 7 month old thread, read the entire thing, and then post some hippy bullshit about real life priorities. No one gives a ######### about your opinion on what is or is not a waste of time.