After + 3.2k hours of being MAIN KILLER I stopped playing Killer.
Well, devs you got it.
I will leave you the reasons for having stopped playing my main role. I will not quit completely, but I will stop playing it very often.
First of all I will tell my experience after ... 4 years playing killer, mainly I will focus on games from previous months.
I consider myself a fairly experienced player who used my head a lot in games.
As a killer, I have experienced many games thanks to the survivors I have faced, in the first place and focus is the games against the survivors that I have experienced in my life as a killer. When I played killer there was a wide variety of players (survivors) that I faced, ranks 1 (which only hid and repaired generators) I think they are pretty boring players to face and as main killer they should not have been recognized as ranks 1. On the other hand, these players did not last even 30 seconds in chase are quite bad and the game rewarded them, I have to say these games as killer were super boring
On the other hand, we find the survivors who are ranks 1 because they reach these ranks because BHVR reward those who repair, these games are even more boring, because these survivors look for their main objective (repair) and escape through the door, their playability is very simple, the generators before the teammate, so ... I have experienced that .. these full survivors repaired while .. the survivors were on the hooks, in short SUPER boring MATCHES.
Now we go to the games where you find players who really know how to play the game, good survivors who are very difficult to master in the """""wonderful maps so balanced""""" where a chase can cost you almost the entire game, since there are enough tools for a good survivor to endure a chase of more than 2 minutes which is equivalent to ... 2-3 generators, I have experienced previous days where I have found real ranks 1 (very experienced players) where I have really suffered as main killer and this says a lot about the game, these players will have fun having a great chase, but ... have I had fun? 1 or 2 hooks while the survivors have repaired 5 generators? I DON'T SEE IT FAIR, the game needs SOMETHING, and these games have thrown me back I will continue playing killer, but ... very very occasionally, now I will play more survivor, it seems more fun now than being a killer.
I have to tell you one thing devs, you have achieved it, a main killer of more 3.2k hours that is passed to another role "Survivor"
And you? What has been your decision? Have you changed ROL?
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You know its bad when the good streamers are straight up tunneling.
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I have no issue with applying extreme pressure as Clown.
My current build:
"Cruel Limits + Discordance + Insidious + Tinkerer"
My previous current build:
"Corrupt Intervention + Discordance + Dying Light + Thanatophobia"
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I don't think that good streamers like Otz or Tru3 really need to tunnel, or any killers for that matter. However, they need to tunnel in order to be able to relax while playing killer. Having 4 survivors running around means gens are going to pop fast, especially with map sizes being as they are. Similarly to why people ran Ruin, it gave them leeway to have a fun game where they can make mistakes and allow streamers to read chat. Now, there is no leeway. You either need to tunnel 1 out to make the game easier, or go full try hard mode against 4 survivors as gens pop at the end of every other chase.
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I was a 50% killer survivor
Now I'm 80% survivor 20 killer
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TL;DR: Because it's boring
I mean if you get bored when it's too easy and you feel like you don't have fun when the survivors are competent, is there a Goldilocks "just right" situation for you? I'm just amazed you have 3.2k killer main hours when almost every match boils down to those two situations..
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That has always been the case.
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I swapped from mainkiller on survivor too, cause it´s so ez atm and it was the right decision. Gentimes are a joke... for tunneling i have DS. It cost much time for the killer^^ and If the Killer camps then i have BT plus DH plus Adrenaline Ez 5 minute matches without stress.
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Are you telling "drama queen" to a killer who has more than 3200 hours? You have no idea. He's basically one of the few people that their opinion truly matter. He's been playing this game since it released. His opinion is one of the most valuable opinions in this community.
And he's right about everything he has said. It saddens me, but the state of this game is horrendous. This game needs some serious core and balance fixes.
Only the skill in chases should matter to rank up.
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Vei. Para kkkkk
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Not to the devs apparently.
Apparently the opinion of 4 random Joe's they found on the street that will play the game for a month before dropping it is more important.
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Yes i did switch as well.
Was playing killer heavily, but after the ruin nerf the games are going way too fast. I play this game for the fun chases, but in 4-5 mins, there arent many chases.
"If you can't beat them, join them"
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ive done that years ago.
usually a game or two a day, but thats it.
the insane amounts of pressure killers need to handle are ridiculous - i wouldnt be able to play and keep a cool head / have a lot of fun after 4 or so matches. i do admire the twitch streamers who handle it though.
ive went through the whole "burn out" stage when the hag came out. somewhere between hag and doc, i literally couldnt bring myself to play.
doc brought me back though, which is why he is up to this day my 2nd favourite killer in the game.
ever since ive been playing a lot less, but therefore i have a lot more fun.
i have to admit though, ever since the rift got introduced ive been playing more... the grind kinda got me back.
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Agreed. I've been a killer main for roughly 3 years. Now I play mostly survivor. It's more relaxing, and even though I'm not great at chases (can lead for a gen to three TOPS)... I'm rank 3, when less than a month ago I was rank 19.
That's ridiculous. I should NOT be Rank 3. I shouldn't be past 6-8... And when I run into a true red rank killer. Boy do I know it. Lmao
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Not really. They seem to be doing much more hardcore than ever, because they have to. Seeing them camp more often too and pretty much always slug. It is simply not feasible to hook each survivor 3 times against a remotely competent team.
Saw Peanits play last night as Leatherface. Dude got like 2 or 3 hooks and camped a guy from phase 1 till death.
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I used to main killer for years. Then it occurred to me. Why am I playing the more stressful side of the game and not more of the fun side? Why am I stressing all game and having to tryhard so much (against good survivors)? Why do I have to deal with so much trash mechanics like infinites, insta flashes, insta medkits, second chance perks, tbagging SWF etc.
I'm a survivor main now. I play killer sometimes, but usually either for BP or to complete challenges.
Best choice I've ever made...
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There isn't much difference between pallets being directly next to each other and pallets being 8m away from each other when a survivor runs at 4m/s it is essentially the same thing and no real change was made by that update.
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Survivors don't play the same as they use too.They have more tools at the disposal now. I started playing when the game out for Xbox.Im a Killer main a play survivor for challenges sometimes. In the Dbd community people that play Killer as their main may feel they don't have voice any more. The forums for example if you read through most them you'll see how killers are treated on here they can't have any opinion on any subject.I'm not salty I play this game and pay for dlc too. Every time a new killer comes out they Nerff them when they were worth the money. I'm tired of feeling ripped off. I know I'm the only one that feels this way. Then on top of it the Devs just see all Killers as cry babys by how they come off.
This is how it Feels to be Killer main.
If do good you get nothing but hate from survivors.
You pay or wrk hard to unlock a new Killer and perks. You play them your like Wow now I can I have fun again with something new. Survivors and Devs come and say nope sorry,but you can have the dollar store version of your new toy.
Killers come on the forums to voice suggestions just to get crapped on.The proof is in the forums.
My Wife and I both play Dbd. She's a Survivor main and Me a Killer main both red ranks. So I see both sides. I love DeadbyDaylight and happy the Devs brought it to life.
It just hurts to see a game I love become just a big headache. I play others games too but nothing like Dbd.
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Actually, I've started playing killer way more since solo survivor has become an unbearable chore. I guess it doesn't help that I don't like to use the full meta crutch build, so I don't get all the free escapes that "skilled" players enjoy. Playing killer is so much more relaxing by comparison, because I'm relying only on myself and not the trio of lobotomised chimps that I got matched up with.
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I have over 3k hours and I still find the game fun on both sides.
I still make mistakes, I still find myself frustrated but I also still find myself having a ton of fun.
Go into a solo survivor queue where no matter how optimally you play your teammates inevitably decide the outcome of the match. If they can’t run the killer be prepared to carry and possibly die.
I say this as a red rank who most of the time gets found first because I am not an immerse player. Which is why I switch to killer sometimes cuz I Clooney have to rely on myself.
Good luck tho.
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You must be a god and never lose a match. Or you're playing a different game altogether. Because this #########? Is not easy.
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playing killer is really stressful and it’s always been stressful because you never know when you’re gonna get a super sweaty SWF team, with no ruin now games fly playing with or against good survivors. Most killers don’t even touch the field anymore because they’re not good enough ruin was their saving grace but yk the devs want to make sure that new people have fun which is fine but if you’re gonna do that you need to make two different game modes kinda like casual and ranked like rainbow, casual will have newer player rules while ranked has skilled player rules, soon there are gonna be no more good killers and the game is going to die because personally I don’t like easy games as a survivor I want a challenge to see how well i can loop, I feel so bad beating up a poor bubba like I wish the devs would see that the survivors have the advantage over killers but they won’t because they believe killers shook only get 2 kills per game but killers don’t pip off 2 kills they pip off 3-4 kills. I’ve been seeing a lot of NOED lately and I understand when gens fly within 6 minutes there’s nothing a killer can do
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"Welcome to the retired killers club, have a beer."
I was probably around 85% killer in the first and second year of the game and gradually reduce to 80% survivor, 20% killer untill i bored myself to doom.
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Ofc they dont need tunneling. They slug bro
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I’ve switched as well.i used to be a rank 1 killer took a break for a couple of weeks came back and omg ever since I came back it’s been a nightmare. I’m still ranking up as killer but it’s not even fun to play killer any more they make it to easy for survivors. I’ve just switched to survivor and only play killer if I really feel like sweating my booty off.This game really needs some changes if they were going to nerf ruin they needed to rework about every killer cause without ruin so many killers just became worse and almost unplayable unless you just want a 2k.And survivor is so easy for me to play I’ve went from rank 18 to rank 7 survivor in 2DAYS. It’s unbelievable.And the devs are just ignoring everything right now. it make me upset how I’ve spent probably thousands of dollars and hundreds of not thousands of hours in this game and this is what it comes to.
...Devs please listen to the killers for once
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I don't recognize any of the gripes certain players come here to cry about.
I completely understand that most people are sheep and need to be told what to think by other people, so it's no surprise when content streamers constantly ######### about one side of the game, their followers then do too. These same content streamers, then play both sides, showing how most of the games, end in their favour, no matter which side they play. Be it a player looping some dumb ass killer for a few gens or getting 4k with any killer running what seems like almost any 4 sets of perks.
The killers that complain about the smallest inconvenience, have you ever adept your killers? Where you need to use only that killers 3 perks and get yourself a brutal killer rating, because it seems from your constant crying, that this would be impossible.
The survivors that complain about killers, have you adept your survivors? Ok, it's definitely easier to adept as survivor since you don't need to escape to double pip, but you still need to play with only 3 perks. And if you adept David King, you gotta do it broken too.
It comes down to this really, the players coming here complaining are just bad players. Maybe you guys are just sheep bleating that same entitled nonesense your favourite streamer constantly spouts (while they then get 4ks using no perks or loop a killer for days)
You're not supposed to win every game.
You being unhooked doesn't grant you a fairness token where the killer can't down you.
You watching 2 gens pop quickly, doesn't mean it's game over. Imagine all the competent trappers/hags that lay all their traps before hunting, we are used to seeing 2-3 gens go before we start chasing, it's no problem.
The only positive here, is that killer mains are taking a break to have their ego smashed as survivors, when they actually experience how most games go. It's why players that play both sides at a decent level, don't come here crying, every day.
The state of the game is better than it was. Infinites, insta heals, DS, BT, BL all nurfed, exhaustion effects not rebuilding while running, were all things that needed to be fixed, plus a whole bunch of other survivor nurfs.
Killing is so easy now, I don't even know what nerfs have been made to killers (I don't mean individual tweaks, I mean as whole), as it's not changed my ability to slaughter survivors.
Hopefully, when the matchmaking system is up and running, and we start playing with/against players of our skill level, the game will become more "fun" for you. Because it's pointless putting some half baked killer against strong 4 man SWF and putting the world worst survivor against sweaty mckilly killuall.
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I've got 2300 hours in 3 years and honestly I'm playing more killer than I used to, probably about 65% killer and 35% survivor atm. There are times I get frustrated at tile spawn sequences, but I enjoy killer overall because I'm constantly trying to learn either new perk combos or killers I don't/didn't play a lot of. I'm sorry you're burnt out, I get it because it's happened to me before (mostly due to old instant bnp/ perma sabo). I hope that things get tweaked so the killer base returns
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2,000 hours and I currently don't like the state of the game as killer either. Worse is it seems they made a stand and essentially don't ever want to slow the game down at all.
I either 4k......or I 1k or 0k with it feeling like there was nothing I could've done to win. Good loops for you...god loops. What am I gonna do about it? If all 4 survivors understand god loops and understand there is no reason to drop pallets they get hit at. Why should they lose? They have time on demand. Yet somehow someway the devs act like I am supposed to be achieving 12 hooks...
When I 4k it never feels like its because I am good at the game either. I 4k when survivors start to make stupid decisions. Committing to unhooks even though I have seen them going for it. Taking hits for people when there is like a ZERO percent chance they actually help the person im carrying wiggle free.
I honestly don't understand why I am still addicted to this game.
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I'm not surprised about this thread and all the ones similar.
This game since release has been nerf after nerf to survivor due to the 2 kills 2 escape metric the devs have used. SWF messed with that metric.
Now that the metric is around 70% kills, killers need some push back. The problem is that killers have had little to no push back since launch, till recently.
Long story short killer mains haven't been able to deal with the push back, knowing that in the past all they had to do was complain and they'd get what they wanted.
I hope the devs stick to their guns, but the current state of the community was inevitable from my perspective, having played since launch.
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I am player since 2016 "August". I have not been a constant player to this game, but have I been playing since the beginning of the game, infinite, double pallets, slow vaults? They did not exist, and much more... The game has changed, but it's still boring for the killer.
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Well thought-out post. I wholeheartedly agree.
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Damn. Are they really? Which ones?
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He's a troll don't listen to him :/
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Both sides have received nerfs since the game has been released,that's just bias what you said.
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Trolling or just stupid?
With the size of the maps coupled with gen speed, unless you're playing a killer that has high map pressure such as billy then you're completely ######### vs swf. Yeah, the game might be better than it was, but it's taken a few steps back recently. They have basically admitted to having a bias towards survivors. DS's nerf was more of a hidden buff. The thing is, survivors are allowed to have crutch second chance perks such as DS, BT, adrenilin yet survivor mains cry enough that killer perks get nerfed more.
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Nah he's always baiting with his posts about Clown. His whole build is a meme
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So you don't like playing killer because the chases are too short and it makes the game boring, and you don't like playing killer because the chases are too long and it makes the game hard?
Okay.
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The discussion always goes the same way. They jump in with map size, like it really matters, anyway. I don't even know what that means. The bigger the maps, the more spread out the gens tend to be. Last I checked, all survivors move slower than the killer anyway. Map size is just another content streamer point of no value, as they don't struggle in most games they play, no matter the map size.
The infamous gen rush that seems to happen every game according to this forum, it literally doesn't shout more about how bad that killer really is. If/when 2 gens go quickly, they're outside gens, meaning the 3-4 gen patrol strat is on. You have to be a complete tool to be losing those games.
Survivor perks, BT, DS, Adrenaline complaints are literally bad players whining about things that shouldn't even affect them anyway. You get hit with a DS, what you doing tunnelling and picking up a survivor? Why you hanging around the hook for BT? Last I checked, hitting a BT survivor means they need to mend then heal, taking them out the game for around 30 seconds or dragging another survivor away from gens, while you chase down the unhooker. Adrenaline is a joke perk, it's only useful against killers that can't stop gens, I haven't really seen it since green/purples.
Points on SWF being a strong tool are fair, but I love those games the most, they're the ones that make me a more effective killer and the games where everything is hectic and busy, how it should be. It's literally my role as killer to keep an adrenaline fuelled, awkward to deal with game going until I get all the survivors. When 4 players are communicating and planning, it makes my win all the more sweeter. Even when i lose these games, it's still good points and great fun. I wish I faced more 4 man squad, as most games end up being complete walkovers against randoms or small swf squads.
The sooner matchmaking works properly, the better. Hopefully, I can get the great survivors i want to play against and you guys can have the potato survivors you obviously need.
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You forgot Killermain btw.
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Well said, streamer sack riders are absolutely annoying
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Now I have enough for 1-2 games for the Killers. Then disgust appears. I could have played longer for them if the developers hadn’t put a huge, thick “bolt” on the Killer animation. At the moment, all the animations for the killers are disgusting. It is impossible to look at it without bloody tears.
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Tell your stories how you defeat 4 toolboxes with just franklin's demise, which is a trash perk, how you defeat r1 swfs with overcharge oh spread your knowledge once again. As if you ever made it to red ranks. xD
Overcharge i think did stop working around rank 10.
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Lol it's the guy with selective reading. That can't even handle a couple gens popping off in 60 seconds 😂
You're literally the type of player that has no independent thought of his own. Because you're perks and playstyle are obviously working great for you, with all the gen rushing you get, adrenaline, DS and BT you cry about.
Still yet to read anything from you that even attempts to solve the problems you face in game 😜
Go on, give us your wisdom 😂😂😂
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There is no patent solution for each situation, no matter what killer you play, no matter how good you are. When you play against good survivors who just push out gens, you will struggle.
The fact that you do not even recognize big maps as a problem for killers who do not have any mobility is baffling. Since every killer knows about these issues on maps like ormond, temple and so on.
Now where did I cry about adrenaline, ds and bt? Is it already so hard for you to make a response that you have imagine things i said?
You are a fake and nothing else who offers stories on the level of apply pressure or break the pallet. Just put in a few more emojis, i am sure people will believe you afterwards.
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I play 50% survivor and 50% 4k spirit.
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So, nothing. Absolutely nothing. Just like to complain and moan about things content streamers tell you to moan and complain about.
You offer nothing, yet have the audacity to attempt to belittle someone that is offering a solution to a problem, based on how their game experience is and what has worked. As opposed to your .... nothing.
I highly suspect you a sweaty red rank player, that doesn't just get into red ranks, but has to try hard to stay there, which is why losing is such a big thing for you.
You probably run 4 of the 5 popular killer perks and have no idea why you lose because of it. Yes, it's agreeable that there is no one size fits all, as gamer smarts count more than any perk, map, add on or toolbox brought into the game.
For me, the game isn't this super hard, killer gets bullied, gen rushed and blinded all game, begging for a totem to keep them viable.
Be thankful that if the matchmaking system works, you can play the average players that suit your average play style and your none existent advice.
👍😂😍🙄
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I like many have forecast this, the killer is BHVR
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The irony is you complaining about me offering nothing, when you are unable to even acknowledge the problem's existance.
No idea why you bring up streamers and act as if this problem was created by streamers when complaints about map size have been made by several people. But keep talking about fanboys and so on when I do not even have streamers that I do watch on a regular basis.
Is it all that you bring to the table? Dumb insults? You do not answer questions, where did I mention adrenaline,bt and ds and where did i cry about it?
Last time I asked you to back up anything of the things you say, you did bring up bs excuses, along the lines of you don't record as you do not need to show off, yes it is not to show off but to provide proof to anything you say which you are unable to give again if I ask for it, so I am not even gonna bother with it.
A killer that does not even understand such simple things as like why DS is not an anti-tunneling perk and can be used for various diffrent things but we all do believe the story of the godly killer, who runs franklins and overcharge, might I suggest unnerving presence, this makes also for very difficult skillchecks. I heard the newbie survivors in yellow ranks struggle against it.
You still haven't understood my biggest complaint, the game bores me, I am a survivor main who says the game is too easy as survivor. You have trouble grasping that is amazing, the simple fact that handholding to newbie survivors gives significant advantages to experienced survivors. Something that is not really hard to understand.
Make a few more emojis kiddo for your inability to express yourself with words.
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Lol
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Can you give a link to that? Would be great to see that.
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Maybe you need to get out the yellow ranks you like to talk about so much.
Look forward to watching you squirm on my hook when we get cross play. That way, you can experience my wholesome killer goodness for yourself.
In all honesty, I really don't care if the game bores you. I am not responsible for your feelings.
We played the show proof game before, you're just as unwilling to show evidence about the every game gen rush mantra you like to stick to.
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