Do you think OoO should be removed?

Yea needs a rework, maybe they just make it an infinite range premonition with no cooldown that reveals your aura to the killer. That way it would work against Myers again.

It really needs a rework. It makes already weak killers even weaker and it's overpowered in a good SWF. It's even worse when multiple survivors have it.

Did you read the perk description?

The obssesion haves more range

Ahh and, I think OoO is fine

And what about it? As if range was the only problem.

Still, its completly broken in SWF and moderately broken vs Trapper and Hag.

Hmm that sounds pretty good

Yes. The whole Undetectable-Shenanigans came only from Object of Obsession. Other Perks which gave Aura Read like Dark Sense or Alert are completely fine (or even too weak).

But Object just gives too much information, even in Solo Play, because the risk is way lower than the Reward, especially since the Killer will not always see the Survivor, but the Survivor will see the Killer, when they are facing in the opposite Direction.

So I really hope for a Rework, can be really high Risk. Maybe keep the Aura Read, make it only work when both parties look directly at each other and give the Survivor some form of Debuff or anything the longer they look at the Killer.

OoO is still broken vs Trapper and Hag.

And SWF cant be nerfed, so we have to rework OoO so that its not so op when used by SWF. Make it something like Kindred: great information, helps solo greatly, useless for SWF.

Not removed, but needs to be reworked definitely. Sole Survivor could also use some tweaking to make it more powerful.

Removed? Like you can see the survivor at all times. Can't even look around while healing without revealing your location. It's also not very commonly used perk. You should be able to eliminate the one survivor giving you free wall hacks every 20 games and if not, it's a skill issue, not Object being OP.

My biggest problem with OoO is the fact that you get so much information for free as soon as the match starts. While there is a risk depending on the killer you're playing against and their skill level, as well as your skill level, it can still be changed to be a bit healthier. If anything, make it to where you have to charge it like you do with diversion, and then have it drain at an equal rate or increased rate while it's in use. Leaning towards increased rate considering the amount of information it gives you and potentially your team.

Yes I have and usually the player using OoO gets camped and/or tunneled. Even when I run it, I don't go in in expecting to survive. I just want some fun chases.

What I don't like is how killers in "undetected" status can still see your aura with object. It's just free wall hacks for stealth killers with NO downside. If auras are blocked, they should be blocked for both survivor AND killer. This is how it works on EW1 michael (but only him for some reason) and I think that's how it was intended for all killers. So if anything OP saying that Object "hard countering" killers is extremely incorrect because stealth killers hard counter Object right now.

Why shouldn't the stealth killer see OoO? You said yourself you're looking for fun chases. Doesn't get more 'fun' than that. Plus, it's only when they're undetected. GF is out of his power or Pig is running around, you can see them just fine.

I personally agree if I am playing half the roster or mostly trapper of course in general your officially getting face camped. I am pretty sure anybody who plays trapper and have a person with triple o would do the same its just common sense. No offense to the survivors I have been on the receiving ends myself. Cough cough (random perk wheel) :)

You can always make it so it guarantees that you start off as the obsession but it only works if you are the obsession, if during the match it changes to someone else it gets disabled until it comes back to you.

Huntress gets alot out of it as well, and you can never be stealthy with it vs her. And yes, it hard counters a few killers, but now stealth killers get to see you when you look at them, and you see nothing. And you can't look in their direction to see if they are coming because then they see you wherever you are.

I think the simplest fix is that it should only trigger when the Killer and Survivor are looking at each other, rather than happening when the Survivor looks at the killer. This would keep the strong (though not as strong) and risky elements of the perk intact while giving the Killer a decent amount of counter-play.

I actually don't run either OoO or SS so I don't have a lot of personal experience on both, so warning: this might be a bit uninformed.

I don't run either perk myself but I heard it mentioned in a video and I just started rolling an idea around in my head about combining the two perks, so it would be something like:

-Aura reading still exists, like OoO

-Aura reading range now scales off sacrificed team mates, the same way SS does

-Maybe keep the aura reading prevention on the person running the perk, the way SS blocks the aura readings

If they did something like this it would remove the "right off the bat" benefit and significantly hinder the amount of information that a SWF would get, especially early game for something like a Trapper, where the OoO could call out where traps are being placed. I just figured if the two perks were just merged to where OoO only started working as team mates dropped, like SS, it would eliminate a lot of that SWF annoyance, but the perk would still retain some of its effectiveness as to not be completely useless.

Sorry if it's a half-baked idea. I didn't think a lot of details through but hey, I thought I'd drop the idea. Maybe it'll spark a better idea in somebody else's mind.

If you show swf in pregame everyone will dodge.

Idc if it is tbh. It's dogshit vs stealth killers now.