Clown Nerf!
Time to nerf the clown.
When you walk through your own gas, then you also suffer from the hindered status effect.
Good nerf?
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Why do people think clown is bad? He is add-on relient sure, but with a proper build and some decent add-ons he is an absolute monster in the chase.
It's probably because people follow the stupid builds streamers like otz put out for him, with devour hope and haunted grounds and all that other RNG nonsense; instead of using their brain and creating one for themselves.
I usually do corrupt + bamboozle + brutal + pop goes. Bamboozle and brutal makes him terrifying to be chased by, corrupt for an early game slowdown, and pop goes for a mid-game slowdown.
There is literally nothing you can do against a bleach clown with bamboozle except feed him pallets non-stop, and with brutal you will cut through them like nothing.
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I think the reason people find clown weak is because he has like zero map pressure , plus if the survivor is smart and throws down the pallet early to make distance there is not much the clown can do.
Also it isnt nice to criticize people for following people they like. I dont mean to be rude but if every streamer/youtuber and every player is saying he's weak (including survivors) then maybe it's true.
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As I said, all you can do is feed him pallets.
With brutal and some mindgames they won't make it far. You can pretend like you are going to bloodlust to force them onto one side of the pallet, and then kick it with brutal and they will make very little distance in alot of cases.
Any jungle gym is instantly shut down by bottles and bamboozle. They can only throw the pallet, and then you brutal strength it. Infinites almost cease to exist.
One of my favorite streamers, pro vengeance, has a 98% 3-4k rate and he uses clown regularly at rank 1. And he also makes fun of people who say he is weak.
The only time I feel like he really struggles is against SWF, but what killer doesn't struggle against SWF?
Personally, I just think people are bad with him, and can't strategize enough with where to place the bottle tosses in order to land fast hits or force instant pallet drops.
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He is weak compared to other killers. But even the weak killers can win and win easily.
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I hope this is a bait, for your own good.
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Clown has some pretty good add-ons to help him. But yeah his basekit is a bit on the weak side.
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But pallet drops don't equal a hit on a survivor. Even if you bust through pallets like nobody else with Brutal Strength and even Fire Up added onto that, there's 50 more pallets that the survivor has time to run to and force you to break. Sure, you'll create dead areas quickly with clown by breaking windowless open loops, but by the time you do that it'll be the late middle to end game.
On top of that, doctor can at least stop close survivors from completing a god loop window vault, while Clown just forces a medium vault, which has been relatively recently sped up by the devs.
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A lot of killers can do the things clown does but better, or they do it just as good and also have a way of pressuring the map.
He's add-on dependent and map dependent. If you get a map like red forest, survivors can complete a gen before you can even walk over there. Fixing maps would help him out a lot.
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Because even then, gens are being done and you're just breaking pallets. Most maps have enough pallets where burning through them won't matter by the time you put a sizeable dent in the pallet count because the game will be over. There's nothing he does that another killer doesn't already do, but better. Flask Of Bleach Clown is just Freddy without utility in all but 10% of cases when there's an actual map dead zone between tiles and Clown can gas to close the distance.
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Clown is already the weakest killer, why nerf him?
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he op af with the laugh and the grunt he makes every time u vault
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To be clear you are joking right
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ye maybe
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Ok just making sure because I’ve actually seen people complaining about clown before
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What is with everyone playing clown recently? I've noticed a MASSIVE increase in clown players in the past couple of weeks
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This game is a ######### show...
at this point you might as well
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Clown is a God.
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No, OP is right. He's frustrating to play against
Better rework like Doctor
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Cause in addition to being an m1 killer his power can be played around. For example it doesnt slow down vault speeds. He can end chases pretty quick but if the survivor is semi decent they can extend any chase at least long enough for 1 gen or more to pop. Clown has to conatantly give up chases to not get rolled. He has no way to slow down there game unlike other m1 killers like pigwho can slow the game with traps.
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Mr.Puddles.
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If you're not gonna win either way, you might as well have a good time.
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Shh. People who speak out against the Clown get's visited by Kenneth Chase when they sleep.
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You’re welcome, I know a lot of people find the skin good enough to play clown.
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Here I just said screw it and dropped addons all together. I was starting to feel bad for the boosted survivors.
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Or creating one from their own experiences facing survs. Take your playstyle and then formulate a build. Dont just blindly do what some "streamer" says. I cant play as well as they do so some of their builds just dont work for me.
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The moment i started not caring about winning and losing was the moment i got better. Really better. To the point that during that sweaty game i managed to get all 4 in the end as trapper. That game changed me and the way i saw myself as a killer. It gave me the confidence to play killer the way i wanted to rather than being dictated to. In the end they were swarming like bees around me and body blocking the hook. The game i posted to youtube even. Ill have to look it up again for old times sake.
During that game i said to myself. I dont care about the initial gens going off. I am going to set traps and set myself up good. So i did. A few random traps. A few predictable ones. Then i played the game. It was a nasty game in terms of what they were doing. Hook camping and swarming. body blocking, flashlighting ect. It was not a nice game to be honest but after it was over and i got all 4 i knew what i had accomplished. I became a killer.
I dont play clown. I have him. Only played a few times. But play him keeping in mind not to give a hoot about winning or losing. Just concentrate on one thing at a time. One chase. Chase. Dont give up. if you lose them its ok. Learn from it. Where did you mess up. Should have gone left instead of right? Throw the bottle over there cutting off that part?
In my game it was the random traps that ended up losing them the game and that is what trapper is known for. Late game. Use your strengths.
I took trapper to P3 after that. Then Myers came out. Same thing happened. I sucked you know what. Played him with the same mindset. Get better.
Then doc came out and i loved him. I can flush people out like rabbits. PLayed doc forever.
Bought the others for the perks but did nto play them. Then i stumbled onto the reworked freddy and have played him ever since. He does nto mess around. Sure you get groups that will stomp you. You get those in all games. But by and large i am doing good with him since i find he can cut chases down fast. Had my first perfect game not so long ago. 32k and ten hooks. Imagine the running around getting ten hooks. It was mad and most of it was just a blur of one hook into the next chase followed by the next hook. And on and on,
Play it. You will get better is all i can say. But i also played this game pretty much from the start and have a huge headstart of having played the "old" game.
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I think Clown should be able to chug the mixture in his bottles until he eventually passes out and the round automatically ends, because that's what I, and probably the clown himself, feels like doing at the start of the match everytime I play him.
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You don't have to chase the same person around the entire map all game with him. Unless it's a SWF, it's always better to swap targets and chase people through the areas you have already broken the pallets in. That goes for any killer, not just clown.
My general strategy with any low mobility killer is to 3 gen. Knock out the pallets nearby, and you are almost set. Get a hook nearby? You are golden on almost any map.
It's only the overpowered killers like Freddy / Nurse / Billy / etc that I feel like I can safely just go chase-to-chase mindlessly across the map and not care about which gens to hang onto.
That's why I always use corrupt on my low mobility killers. You get 2 minutes of a map half the size to patrol. It's impossible to have gens pop before you can get to them with corrupt on.
And I think bamboozle clown forces jungle gym pallet drops faster than any other loopable killer in the game, bar someone using nemesis + PWYF who has built up 3 stacks (but they are not really loopable anymore at that point).
He gets entirely free hits at many tiles, with no need to mindgame if you have bamboozle on. L + T walls? Vault one, gas the other, collect free hit in like 10-15 seconds tops.
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IIt's obviously a joke.
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That build you stayed with bamboozle pop and corrupt and brutal is weak as hell. Literally does nothing from someone running to every pallet while every other survivor does different gens all it does is reduce pallets. There’s no map pressure. Sure you’ll probably get a kill maybe even two every once in a while but that build is weak just like clown.
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I think it plays to his strengths, and that is his chase. Clown is only there for the chase, same with someone like huntress. I would always stack a few chase perks on him, be it brutal + bamboozle, or spirit fury + enduring. But I prefer bamboozle because I don't like having to deal with jungle gyms for any length of time.
Why use slowdown perks when you might not even be getting the hooks without the chase perks? Pop goes and corrupt are the only slowdown perks you really need. I have enough map knowledge I don't feel the need for tracking perks.
What build do you recommend that stops someone just running "pallet to pallet"? Spirit fury + enduring? I usually find that too mindless for my liking. There's no other options.
And I 3-4k with clown regularly at red ranks, so I really disagree. You just need to play with a strategy in mind, and pop goes lets you pick and choose which gens to doctor; while also just being the best slowdown perk there is currently.
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"Monster in a chase" :D Not really.
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