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New killer and my opinion
I wanted to share a few of my thoughts on the new killer ''The Spirit''.
She is not a top-tier killer like people say she is. She might be in the low ranks from rank 20 to 12ish. She is very easy to outplay once you know how she works. The way you can know how she works is by playing killer and survivor. It is actually quite easy to outplay her since her asthma is so unbearably loud for survivors and the killer herself so everyone knows exactly when she's behind you or coming for you.
She might be fast but Hilliblly is still faster xD
The fact that her ability has a charge meter is ridiculous. Either let her see survs or just glimps of them like how they see Freddy during the dream transitioning or remove the meter. It's too confusing for a killer to bump into stuff when you shouldn't since there's not always things like scratch marks.
I do like that for the survivors with the fact that stealth is kinda getting back with that but she isn't strong. She is a strong low tier character if you definitely want to add the word strong. Just mark my words xD
She is like Freddy. Pretty good at release but then the rank 20's don't know how to play vs her and she'll get even weaker. She should turn into a full on ghost and not leave a husk behind. That's simply stupid.
She doesn't counter pallet looping like people say because she simply can't see the survivors while in drag race car mode.
I know that she's in the PTB right now so that's why I'm voicing my opinion after a couple of games as killer and survivor vs her.
Yes. I got killed, but that's just because I haven't figured out a nice strat vs her yet. Only time will tell.
I'm a fan of Tru3 and saw him streaming while playing the new killer. He said she was a top tier, but she simply isn't.
You could say that she's a hard killer. While that may be the case, there's no reason to limit her as much as the devs have.
That's it for my opinion. Hope you found it constructive and voice your opinions about her as well. And no. Not after only 2 games as or vs her.
PS: Pls put a counter to hatch standoff in this patch or in the mid-chapter patch
PPS: Not only her asthma is overwhelmingly deafening, but the glass sounds are also way too loud and her facial animation during the select screen is pretty trashy. She just switches from angry to sad in like 3 seconds everytime in a ######### loop. And the mouth looks crappy during the animation. Sloppy job to whoever did that
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She should turn into a full on ghost and not leave a husk behind. That's simply stupid.
No, your suggestion is what's stupid here. You don't even explain what removing the husk would accomplish. You can use it to block doors, pallets or vaults. Removing the husk makes her signifcantly weaker.
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@Madjura said:
She should turn into a full on ghost and not leave a husk behind. That's simply stupid.
No, your suggestion is what's stupid here. You don't even explain what removing the husk would accomplish. You can use it to block doors, pallets or vaults. Removing the husk makes her signifcantly weaker.
No it does not. It shows everyone when she enters and is a ghost. It is simply a crutch that reveals everything since you hear her dying inside.
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She is good atm when people do not know actually how her ability works like. Then.. we'll see. I just got a bit dissapointed with the sounds - that Spirit and Nurse share the stun sound, Adam and David share overall sounds and why the hell I hear the gen damagin while breaking the pallet?
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@Brawler said:
She is good atm when people do not know actually how her ability works like. Then.. we'll see. I just got a bit dissapointed with the sounds - that Spirit and Nurse share the stun sound, Adam and David share overall sounds and why the hell I hear the gen damagin while breaking the pallet?I've noticed that as well. But they made a flaw. As you said ''well have to see how it goes once people get used to her'' Something like that shouldn't even be an option. She should always be viable to be used since her only being viable vs rank 20 players is bullshit.
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@Brawler said:
She is good atm when people do not know actually how her ability works like. Then.. we'll see. I just got a bit dissapointed with the sounds - that Spirit and Nurse share the stun sound, Adam and David share overall sounds and why the hell I hear the gen damagin while breaking the pallet?That weird sound swapping bug happened when the Pig was introduced too. I guess it's just a new killer problem.
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You have only had access to her for a few hours how can you even make massive assumptions like that its ridiculous, I have been in a couple of matches with high ranked survivors and guess what they all died.
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@douggie123 said:
You have only had access to her for a few hours how can you even make massive assumptions like that its ridiculous, I have been in a couple of matches with high ranked survivors and guess what they all died.Guess what, she's a killer that's been released for a few hours. You could kill everyone with Freddy at the beginning as well. He was crappy after a week or two
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I play freddy on console at times and I generally get 3/4 kills all the time, so freddy is still good and so will the spirit.
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All killers are good if you practice and learn how to play them and learn strategies which can be used.
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You wait till your ass is on a hook when she is fully released and I am playing as her. I especially like her perks.
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Exposed status effects come from two of her perks so its gonna be fun.
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You can 4k against people who are trash. Believe me, I know, I play console as well and 3/4k with Freddy quite a bit. Problem is he is very dependent on having the right add one and perks. A base Freddy is trash and almost unusable at rank 15. Take a peerless, add on less Freddy to rank 1 my guy, tell me how good he is then.douggie123 said:You wait till your ass is on a hook when she is fully released and I am playing as her. I especially like her perks.
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@douggie123 said:
All killers are good if you practice and learn how to play them and learn strategies which can be used.Even Freddy? Wow I have so much to learn... lol
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Freddy isn't good @douggie123 Everyone knows it. You're probably playing at rank 21 without add-ons so you think he's good. + console is a bit different than pc. Freddy is weak. The Spirit is already weak. But as I said in the beginning, she is still in the PTB so they can change a lot about her right now.
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It will be another noob stomper.
We got plenty of those already, what we need is a viable high rank killer in order to break the ever lasting billy/nurse circle.But then, devs said during devstream taht "not every killer is supposed to be viable at high rank".
Welp, killer is trash as intended I guess.....
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@Master said:
It will be another noob stomper.
We got plenty of those already, what we need is a viable high rank killer in order to break the ever lasting billy/nurse circle.But then, devs said during devstream taht "not every killer is supposed to be viable at high rank".
Welp, killer is trash as intended I guess.....Exactly! I forgot the word. She's like Freddy. Good at release but she is only going to be a noob stomper after a week or two. Nice wording you guys!
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@Master said:
It will be another noob stomper.
We got plenty of those already, what we need is a viable high rank killer in order to break the ever lasting billy/nurse circle.But then, devs said during devstream taht "not every killer is supposed to be viable at high rank".
Welp, killer is trash as intended I guess.....This is purely speculative, but this is what I think the devs are trying to do:
If you want to play to have fun (i.e.: casually), then you pick a mid-tier Killer and play them at mid ranks. If you want to rank up, then you pick a high-tier Killer and play them at high ranks. In other words, they're trying to make it so you have both casual play and hardcore play in the same game. The problem is this has never worked, because high-rank players will play on smurf accounts or find ways to derank to punch newbies in the dick.0 -
@Orion said:
@Master said:
It will be another noob stomper.
We got plenty of those already, what we need is a viable high rank killer in order to break the ever lasting billy/nurse circle.But then, devs said during devstream taht "not every killer is supposed to be viable at high rank".
Welp, killer is trash as intended I guess.....This is purely speculative, but this is what I think the devs are trying to do:
If you want to play to have fun (i.e.: casually), then you pick a mid-tier Killer and play them at mid ranks. If you want to rank up, then you pick a high-tier Killer and play them at high ranks. In other words, they're trying to make it so you have both casual play and hardcore play in the same game. The problem is this has never worked, because high-rank players will play on smurf accounts or find ways to derank to punch newbies in the dick.Yeah, the problem with this strategy is that they made piping so easy that you automatically reach higher ranks if you play more.
This means you have to derank in order to have fun with your trash killer....
Pls make it harder to pip and I will shut my mouth, but I dont wanna depip more than I actually play the game.
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The system the devs have tried to create isn't good. I don't want to rely on playing Nurse just to reach rank 1, I mean I don't but you get the point. I want to play Freddy for example and have fun at rank 1. This is almost not possible tho. They only have 2 killers made for ez points and pips and the rest are pretty weak considering the game genre
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@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Madjura said:
She should turn into a full on ghost and not leave a husk behind. That's simply stupid.
No, your suggestion is what's stupid here. You don't even explain what removing the husk would accomplish. You can use it to block doors, pallets or vaults. Removing the husk makes her signifcantly weaker.
No it does not. It shows everyone when she enters and is a ghost. It is simply a crutch that reveals everything since you hear her dying inside.
But wouldn't removing the husk anyways show that she is now in the spirit world anyways? hypocrite much?
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@Zanfer said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Madjura said:
She should turn into a full on ghost and not leave a husk behind. That's simply stupid.
No, your suggestion is what's stupid here. You don't even explain what removing the husk would accomplish. You can use it to block doors, pallets or vaults. Removing the husk makes her signifcantly weaker.
No it does not. It shows everyone when she enters and is a ghost. It is simply a crutch that reveals everything since you hear her dying inside.
But wouldn't removing the husk anyways show that she is now in the spirit world anyways? hypocrite much?
xD I think you need to look up what hypocrisy means. And no it wouldn't. I wouldn't show the survivors everything it does now.
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@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Zanfer said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Madjura said:
She should turn into a full on ghost and not leave a husk behind. That's simply stupid.
No, your suggestion is what's stupid here. You don't even explain what removing the husk would accomplish. You can use it to block doors, pallets or vaults. Removing the husk makes her signifcantly weaker.
No it does not. It shows everyone when she enters and is a ghost. It is simply a crutch that reveals everything since you hear her dying inside.
But wouldn't removing the husk anyways show that she is now in the spirit world anyways? hypocrite much?
xD I think you need to look up what hypocrisy means. And no it wouldn't. I wouldn't show the survivors everything it does now.
Ok since you don't understand what I am talking about I will write it out for you.
RIght now when she uses her power she leaves her husk behind which is stationary and has a constant terror radius in that area. We all know this. You are proposing that the husk is gone which means their is no terror radius at all. That change doesn't really do much at all. If the survivor sees her at one point than doesn't see her husk/her anymore than they already know that she is in the spirit realm anyway. What the person above was saying is you can use her husk to block pathways/vaults/pallets which is more useful with her power. The survivor already knows she is in the spirit world so why would it matter if the husk is gone or not
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@Zanfer said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Zanfer said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Madjura said:
She should turn into a full on ghost and not leave a husk behind. That's simply stupid.
No, your suggestion is what's stupid here. You don't even explain what removing the husk would accomplish. You can use it to block doors, pallets or vaults. Removing the husk makes her signifcantly weaker.
No it does not. It shows everyone when she enters and is a ghost. It is simply a crutch that reveals everything since you hear her dying inside.
But wouldn't removing the husk anyways show that she is now in the spirit world anyways? hypocrite much?
xD I think you need to look up what hypocrisy means. And no it wouldn't. I wouldn't show the survivors everything it does now.
Ok since you don't understand what I am talking about I will write it out for you.
RIght now when she uses her power she leaves her husk behind which is stationary and has a constant terror radius in that area. We all know this. You are proposing that the husk is gone which means their is no terror radius at all. That change doesn't really do much at all. If the survivor sees her at one point than doesn't see her husk/her anymore than they already know that she is in the spirit realm anyway. What the person above was saying is you can use her husk to block pathways/vaults/pallets which is more useful with her power. The survivor already knows she is in the spirit world so why would it matter if the husk is gone or not
The logic would be that removing the terror radius of the husk would mean removing the ghost radius so it would be fair
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@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Zanfer said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Zanfer said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Madjura said:
She should turn into a full on ghost and not leave a husk behind. That's simply stupid.
No, your suggestion is what's stupid here. You don't even explain what removing the husk would accomplish. You can use it to block doors, pallets or vaults. Removing the husk makes her signifcantly weaker.
No it does not. It shows everyone when she enters and is a ghost. It is simply a crutch that reveals everything since you hear her dying inside.
But wouldn't removing the husk anyways show that she is now in the spirit world anyways? hypocrite much?
xD I think you need to look up what hypocrisy means. And no it wouldn't. I wouldn't show the survivors everything it does now.
Ok since you don't understand what I am talking about I will write it out for you.
RIght now when she uses her power she leaves her husk behind which is stationary and has a constant terror radius in that area. We all know this. You are proposing that the husk is gone which means their is no terror radius at all. That change doesn't really do much at all. If the survivor sees her at one point than doesn't see her husk/her anymore than they already know that she is in the spirit realm anyway. What the person above was saying is you can use her husk to block pathways/vaults/pallets which is more useful with her power. The survivor already knows she is in the spirit world so why would it matter if the husk is gone or not
The logic would be that removing the terror radius of the husk would mean removing the ghost radius so it would be fair
Just because you remove the terror radius doesn't imply removing the ghost radius...
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@Dr_doom_j2 said:
You can 4k against people who are trash. Believe me, I know, I play console as well and 3/4k with Freddy quite a bit. Problem is he is very dependent on having the right add one and perks. A base Freddy is trash and almost unusable at rank 15. Take a peerless, add on less Freddy to rank 1 my guy, tell me how good he is then.
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
Freddy isn't good @douggie123 Everyone knows it. You're probably playing at rank 21 without add-ons so you think he's good. + console is a bit different than pc. Freddy is weak. The Spirit is already weak. But as I said in the beginning, she is still in the PTB so they can change a lot about her right now.Yet people on here have routinely taken Freddy to rank 1 perkless or with the right addons. Now before you come back with the right addons nonsense that's true for every killer. The killers that know how to maximize a killer and play optimally do really well with Freddy and against good rank 1 players.
The fact that people sue the rank 21 insult to try and debase the other sides points is laughable. What's even worse is yet against the same doom and gloom players are on here The exact same ones that when the exhaustion nerf was being tested told survivors it wasn't even out 2 hours and they were whining.
The exact same killers who said wait and see, give it time and see what comes out. Yet here we are yet again omg she's weak buff immediately etc etc.
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@powerbats said:
@Dr_doom_j2 said:
You can 4k against people who are trash. Believe me, I know, I play console as well and 3/4k with Freddy quite a bit. Problem is he is very dependent on having the right add one and perks. A base Freddy is trash and almost unusable at rank 15. Take a peerless, add on less Freddy to rank 1 my guy, tell me how good he is then.
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
Freddy isn't good @douggie123 Everyone knows it. You're probably playing at rank 21 without add-ons so you think he's good. + console is a bit different than pc. Freddy is weak. The Spirit is already weak. But as I said in the beginning, she is still in the PTB so they can change a lot about her right now.Yet people on here have routinely taken Freddy to rank 1 perkless or with the right addons. Now before you come back with the right addons nonsense that's true for every killer. The killers that know how to maximize a killer and play optimally do really well with Freddy and against good rank 1 players.
The fact that people sue the rank 21 insult to try and debase the other sides points is laughable. What's even worse is yet against the same doom and gloom players are on here The exact same ones that when the exhaustion nerf was being tested told survivors it wasn't even out 2 hours and they were whining.
The exact same killers who said wait and see, give it time and see what comes out. Yet here we are yet again omg she's weak buff immediately etc etc.
I think as a player who plays both sides but just more killer has the knowledge to have correct first impressions of a new killer. The rank 21 insult is fitting most of the time. One cannot play Freddy without correct add-ons and no perks all the way to rank 1. If you show me a video of a rank 20 killer only playing Freddy without perks or add-ons reaches rank 1 then I'll believe you. Since you used such a statement u must have actual proof, right?
The exhaustion nerf wasn't even that impactful, to be honest. The good survivors can play with it and the bad ones finally learned how it felt to have a small challenge.
This new killer is weak. That's just a fact and my opinion. The only ability she has is basically Sprint Burst. Which sounds strong except if she wasn't ''blinded'' or having asthma attacks.
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powerbats said:
@Dr_doom_j2 said:
You can 4k against people who are trash. Believe me, I know, I play console as well and 3/4k with Freddy quite a bit. Problem is he is very dependent on having the right add one and perks. A base Freddy is trash and almost unusable at rank 15. Take a peerless, add on less Freddy to rank 1 my guy, tell me how good he is then.
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
Freddy isn't good @douggie123 Everyone knows it. You're probably playing at rank 21 without add-ons so you think he's good. + console is a bit different than pc. Freddy is weak. The Spirit is already weak. But as I said in the beginning, she is still in the PTB so they can change a lot about her right now.Yet people on here have routinely taken Freddy to rank 1 perkless or with the right addons. Now before you come back with the right addons nonsense that's true for every killer. The killers that know how to maximize a killer and play optimally do really well with Freddy and against good rank 1 players.
The fact that people sue the rank 21 insult to try and debase the other sides points is laughable. What's even worse is yet against the same doom and gloom players are on here The exact same ones that when the exhaustion nerf was being tested told survivors it wasn't even out 2 hours and they were whining.
The exact same killers who said wait and see, give it time and see what comes out. Yet here we are yet again omg she's weak buff immediately etc etc.
Answer me this Powerbats. What is the point of placing a character in PTB if you aren't supposed to discuss how powerful or weak that killer is...
And I said I don't think k the creator of this thread can go to rank 1 as Freddy. I doubt you could either, I didn't say it was impossible though. But again, the doomsayers survivor main who argues like he isn't we'll over the hill, come to save the day..0 -
Those sounds are just a place holder at the moment. They'll change it later, trust me, it's called computer science and they probably didn't get done with the coding (AKA bits/bitrate/etc...)Brawler said:She is good atm when people do not know actually how her ability works like. Then.. we'll see. I just got a bit dissapointed with the sounds - that Spirit and Nurse share the stun sound, Adam and David share overall sounds and why the hell I hear the gen damagin while breaking the pallet?
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@Dr_doom_j2 said:
powerbats said:@Dr_doom_j2 said:
You can 4k against people who are trash. Believe me, I know, I play console as well and 3/4k with Freddy quite a bit. Problem is he is very dependent on having the right add one and perks. A base Freddy is trash and almost unusable at rank 15. Take a peerless, add on less Freddy to rank 1 my guy, tell me how good he is then. @NextKillerSpongebob said:
Freddy isn't good @douggie123 Everyone knows it. You're probably playing at rank 21 without add-ons so you think he's good. + console is a bit different than pc. Freddy is weak. The Spirit is already weak. But as I said in the beginning, she is still in the PTB so they can change a lot about her right now.
Yet people on here have routinely taken Freddy to rank 1 perkless or with the right addons. Now before you come back with the right addons nonsense that's true for every killer. The killers that know how to maximize a killer and play optimally do really well with Freddy and against good rank 1 players.
The fact that people sue the rank 21 insult to try and debase the other sides points is laughable. What's even worse is yet against the same doom and gloom players are on here The exact same ones that when the exhaustion nerf was being tested told survivors it wasn't even out 2 hours and they were whining.
The exact same killers who said wait and see, give it time and see what comes out. Yet here we are yet again omg she's weak buff immediately etc etc.
Answer me this Powerbats. What is the point of placing a character in PTB if you aren't supposed to discuss how powerful or weak that killer is...
And I said I don't think k the creator of this thread can go to rank 1 as Freddy. I doubt you could either, I didn't say it was impossible though. But again, the doomsayers survivor main who argues like he isn't we'll over the hill, come to save the day..
I could probably do it with Freddy since I'm getting 4k's with him right now, but not without perks and add-ons.
He depends on those while Nurse doesn't even in the slightest.But for the rest I agree with you
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