DEVS please,Buff Legion!
From the very first day of the Legion's release on the main servers,It became my favorite killer,I realized that most people play it to "abuse" the moonwalk and thus kill the survivors...
There was also a "Moonwalk + Frank Mixtape" combo and it was also strong...
The survivors did not like it all,as a result, the developers "killed"(nerfed) Legion...
And from that day on, I still continued to play for him...
Time passed, and BHVR still did not want to buff the Legion,then people came out who offered ideas for the buff of the Legion,but BHVR did not like them all because they allegedly "like" the Legion that is now...
Now,I'm ASKING you!Look what you've done to the Legion!You gave him a helping hand and then stabbed him in the back like rats!I ask you to reconsider your views on what is happening with the Legion please...
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You're having an exercise in futility on them addressing Legion. They'll "rework" Legion so they'll stab themselves during Fatal Frenzy. Legion is dead and will likely never return to respectability.
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Friend, I have been down this road. It will get you nowhere. For some reason, they are pleased with where Legion is at, which is unfun to play as and against.
The only thing we can do is hope he doesn't get nerfed
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Legion will never be fixed for 2 reasons
1: His kit(currently) makes no sense and will always work against him. His power being tied too deep wounds hinders him, because any changes Legion gets, Deep Wounds needs too change accordingly, and vise versa, So until he gets a rework he will always be either uncounterable and OP or useless and UP. Until he gets a rework no buff/nerf will fix Legion IMO.
2: Devs don't even like him or his kit. No one is going too make something good if they don't like what they are making, and as such Legion was doomed too fail from the start because the devs simply didn't like him. They should of redone him and delayed the chapter, but here we are. So unless the devs give him the Freddy treatment, which is unlikely since they don't like him, Legion is always gonna be a bad killer IMO.
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How would you even buff the Legion ? Currently they are a killer who get a near unavoidable first hit wich can potentially be chained to every survivor and make them waste time mending on top. Then Legion has to work on basic killer skills alone to get the finishing blow.
We learned from Old Legion that making Feral Frenzy lethal even if its not very efficient, is frustrating to the survivors, because it is allmost unavoidable. Moonwalking survivors to death while hilarious, was not healthy for the game either.
The things Legion could use right now are moslty QoL changes. Why do they lose part of the Feral Frrenzy bar when hitting a survivor with their basic attack, since they can't knock them down with FF anyway ? Why is their Deep Wound 30 seconds long, when every other instance of DW in the game is 20 ? And why do Frank's Mixtape and Stab Wound Study still exist in their current form when its been made pretty clear that the devs don't want survivors to die from Feral Frenzy ?
Also some perks that are currently "basic attack only", could be changed to work with FF.
Changes theses things and Legion will be a fine killer.
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- Legion is plenty populair still, so cant really say people dont like playing them anymore
- Legion does fine statswise in the killing department sooo again seems ok
Look I get it, Legion is odd, they seem to have more against them then most killers.
But at the same time, despite all that they are being played and do fine generally so yeah.
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Devs are happy with the Legion because they don't understand the concept of Legion-player fun and just looking at cold numbers in some statistics, while they are worried about the fun of the people that play against the Legion (yeah... The type of people who not spend their time only with the Legion and see in their next match already a other killer. Makes no sense but hey... Here we are now :|).
I ask me if they ever will understand...
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When was the last time you played a killer? Oh sorry, I asked the wrong question, when was the last time you played Legion ?! At least we would use its power for this stack but unfortunately they got nerf again because the producers knew so much! Unfortunately, an increase in vault speeds and a 0.1% increase in inoperative plugins mean that manufacturers are making fun of this killer!
Can you really do 4k without using add-on and mori? After eating a Ruin nerf, you will see that it will be incredibly difficult, do not mention me swf here! If you are playing with baby survivors, of course, baby survivors always want nerf. So give up your very knowledgeable nature!
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Legion is arguably stronger now than he was at release after going from 110% to 115% movement speed. You had to cheese the mechanics before to get survivors down and it took a while without franks mixtape.
He’s in the same boat as old Freddy. He’s just too awful to buff. Hopefully the rework comes sooner rather than later.
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XDDD
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Personally I think Legion is fine. Played right they have insane pressure.
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I am a bit confused because you quoted me. Is it because I named stats? (stats that speak from better killrates?)
The stats of the Legion are today better as the stats of the pre patch Legion.
If we forget fun and just looking at cold numbers, the devs have done a ok job. Not a finished job, but a "beginning".
The pre patch Legion had a killrate from 20-30%.
The Legion today has a killrate from 55-60%.
Both official data from bhvr.
That said, I am not a friend of the rework. Even not with those better killrates. I would to any time prefer the old Legion above the new one.
Why, you ask me?
Because she had made fun.
Edit: And if you read my words, I like to see buffs for the Legion. Mainly buffs that take the unfun elements out. The stuns as example.
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Unfortunately Legion doesn't even have these stats. But forget Legion rework, if there is another change, it will be nerf again. Toxic and baby survivors will be happy, at least I look at it from the good side.
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How would you buff Legion? Give him reduced reduced fatigue for every hit in that Frenzy.
This way Legion satys the same 1v1, but his 1v4 interaction gets buffed, and he can get an easier down if he menages to injure multiple people while in frenzy. So basically, bad plays stay the same, good plays get rewarded.
Also, fix the hitboxes and remove Aim Dressing. Nothing is worse than missing Frenzy hits (or Blink lunges as Nurse) because of a stupid system made to cover up bad hitboxes.
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I will update this last time when I have time to have minor spelling errors in this regard.
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I linked you a thread with killrate stats from November 2019.
You can see there, that the Legion has now a better killrate.
For me is only a buff acceptable. Before I have not again the same fun I had before with the Legion, I will for sure remind the devs on that^^.
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So, which rank do these results belong to? Rank 20-14? ;D
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The first picture is for all ranks. Also including rank 20.
The second is red ranks only.
Sadly they have not shown better statistics. I would have love to see more informations in it. How many of those games were against swf, which perks were used on both sides, dcs and so on.
And of course, it is a statistic from November. So the ruin changes and doc/plague/trapper changes that are also on the horizon are not in. Also not the new killer. Maybe we are again the second worst now after all of this comes out... :|.
Could only tell a new statistic.
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Before Ruin changed, I was like rank 3 as a killer, I usually don't use Legion power because it's nothing but a waste of time. I play as m1 and I only get 250 points deviousness. I think I was making this score hatch. The last time I played, I encountered toxic swf and 4 people managed to escape.
They made fun of me in the last minutes, why? Unfortunately, my attacks could not do anything until my power expired, while the palette was dropped and my strength was active, he made fun of jumping over the palette repeatedly. But this of course did not bother me. This is just my misfortune.
They want buffs, as Legion says, because yes it's not fun. But forget about the change because it will not come, but if it does, the nerf will come. However, if nerf comes, feral frenzy duration and renewal times are nerf.
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I still want to believe that the BHVR will change their minds and buff the Legion ... (If they have enough brains to understand that the Legion is practically in a coffin)
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