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How is playing killer so difficult?
I play killer off and on, going between killer and survivor pretty often, and every time I play killer I get a merciless 4k, and I also show TONS of mercy in every match. I really don't understand why so many people find killer to be so difficult. Then again, I play on PS4, and about 95% of all survivors are complete potatoes. But still, even in matches where I get 4 man SWF, and they're all good at looping and hiding, I get a merciless 4k, while also showing mercy. Am I just the best player ever, or is killer really not that hard? I think the latter.
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agree 100%. many killer just want easy 4k's , but i think a skilled killer can get 90% 4k's. alot of the killers complaining are just not good at the game.
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just do the math. For how quick gens can go, survivor should never lose. Also, weaker perks, weak in loops in general and few killers are really trash.
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Killer isnt hard itself, its the map design that is bad (legion and clown are trash though)
but apparently enough people cried and now loops like Shack are being effectively deleted!
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Because it requires actual skill, on top of the fact that the game is directly balanced without you having any fun in mind. Your job (actual job) is to be a VS entity to test the skill of the survivors, and ensure they have a fun time. This is your job because it would be too dificult for the dev's to make a bot to do this job instead - so you're treated like one.
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"Every time I play killer I get a merciless 4k, and I also show TONS of mercy in every match. "
"Then again, I play on PS4, and about 95% of all survivors are complete potatoes"
Either you're not in red ranks as a killer, or PS4 really is full of potatoes and therefore their opinion doesn't count.
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I'm practically always in red ranks on both sides, and still always 4k with killer.
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What killer may I ask?
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Just like most of the comments.
It's like watching "real customers" commenting on facebook and youtube reviews.
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To quote the great Ron Burgundy, "I don't believe you." Of course if you're sitting at ranks 12-20 or something, I could see that then.
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Get a twitch channel called 4kKiller and show us all you are truly the best player ever and ALWAYS get a 4k! You'd be rich and famous in no time!
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I agree. I played at the weekend several matches as killer and ... its wasnt that stressful at all. Once in awhile you get a squad thats not potaetoing all day, and even then half of those games can be won pretty chilled. Killers on these forums are exagerating far too much.
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4kALLday.ttv
Valid point. If one were the best they could rake it in so long as they have a personality and don't look like this...
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Those who come here are just bad at the game. Statistics proof (yes, its is a proof) that killers get a very good outcome on average. Complainers are either enittled for their 4K all the time, or they are .. as said... just bad at the game.
I win almost every game as a killer, with ######### like bubba or Legion. On rank 1. Soooo hard ... this game ...
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What platform do you play on and what rank
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It’s not that hard. Most survivors are boosted beyond belief.
Most killers in the game are pretty bad too though. They just sit around hooks waiting for the unhook so they can tunnel. When they come across a good team that does gens and uses BT/DS as a counter strategy they run straight to the forums to complain about said perks and “genrush”
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I'm on PS4 as well. I think it would be easier if gens weren't so fast. Also would be nice if the didn't put rank 20 killers against purple's and reds. I feel like it got harder since they messed up the rank reset. I'm like a rank 16 going against 2s and 3s. Most of the time they can get two or three gens done, before you even see anyone (lot of P3 Claudettes) depending on the killer. They could also get the same amount of gens done in one chase if they are good at looping or the killer doesn't have much gen pressure capabilities. Might get a swf bully squad. Havent taken a 4s since reset,but definitely saw players of a way higher skill level than is usual on PS4. There's also such a thing as different killers and builds. It's not always just skill. Maybe you have a better build than the survivors or get lucky and get potatoes. It does happen here and there. You also have to realize most of these guys on the forums are rank 1 PC players. It's a completely different animal.
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The "math":
The "should":
The truth:
What are we even discussing here?
PS. Once upon a time i was the same as many here, i thought killers are so poor and they need buffs and everything. Then i realised i am a noob and i tried to become better. I succeeded.
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There are definitely potatoes,but usually the reds and purple's are just about as good as on PC. That's with the framerate and controller,not being able to pull off certain strats the are possible on PC. I played both at different points in time. You might get some crappy high ranks just like on PC,but you can easily see skill. They like to do a lot of tricks from their favorite streamers and what have you lol. Gotta remember the rank reset messed up too. I'm rank 16 killer that was green (before the rank reset thing) ,going against red survivors. Same with survivors. You can get teammates that are like rank 18 even if you are red. That could account for getting the 4k,if no one's doing gens or saving people from hooks.
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I'm on PC. You get a wide range of survivors. I'm gonna echo someone else and agree that it's map size.
Not everyone can be a rank 1 killer. Everything is on you all the time. You get zero help.
If you want rank 1 killer for the achievement though? Level up doc, get 100 the game offerings and 100 calm add ons and just mop up survivors. There are ways to cheese it.
Shockwave every time it comes off cool down. Its amazing.
But in general you have to remember its another person on their computer playing that survivor. Watch them play, see if they react to things. Get in their heads.
Survivors will even give you free sacrifices if you're having a bad day. It's not the uphill slope some make it out to be.
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nah fam, i find it ridiculous to think that someone can get a 4k in 100% of their killer games (OP: "every time I play killer I get a merciless 4k") at red ranks. I cant get a 4k every time in my games, Streamers I watch who play this game at rank 1 cant get a 4k in every game they play. PS4 must be a ######### cakewalk if you can get a 4k in every game you play in.
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It's just bait and lies bro. I'm a rank 3 killer on ps4. You dont 4k every time. We both know that. There are some potatoes in red ranks sure. But there are also some great red rank squads that will de pip you most of the time as well. Anyone that claims they 4k everytime is being dishonest and anything they say on these boards should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Those stats have been disproven.
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I think you are conflating good Killer players with good Killers.
The average skill of a Killer in red ranks is far higher than that of a Survivor. When people of equal skill meet, generally, the Killer loses.
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The truth is that the devs said those stats are useless and shouldn't have conclusions drawn from them. Of course that isn't going to stop people from drawing conclusions from them.
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Both can involve a good amount of skill but getting consistent in higher ranks took me a lot longer as killer. That's probably because I started playing when killer was a lot more miserable of an experience and it is the same game after all so you learn things in one role that carry over with a little practice. I play survivor over killer at like maybe 15-1 lately because having 3 other people to take the load off does make it a lot less stressful on average.
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Ooo let me join in
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Try playing against sweaty survivors on PC.
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No you need to scream and say that the game is completely unplayable for killer while getting 4ks. If youre not screaming illogical nonsense and demanding for a bunch of nerfs with no backing. You dont play killer. I played survicor and got red ranks and as soon as i started playing killer, it happened. Suddenly no matter how much statistical evidence a survivor brings. I just scream and demand my wishes be fufilled, purely based on the fact that other people are screaming the same unbacked, OBSURDLY OBVIOUS biased BS every other killer does.
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Get a pc, play my team once. I will be surprised when you even get a single kill.
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Ahh sneaky trick, i too when having absolutely 0 viable evidence or backing for my argument, call posts point this fact out baits. Good trick.
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It's because you're playing at low rank. That or console survivors are dog ######### idk. Survivor on PC is stupid easy if you get a halfway decent team. I play both sides
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OP you sure you didn't mean to post that you don't get 4ks as killer, cuz I'm pretty sure then many of these biased individuals would 100% agree with you, and not question it once.
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Killers are really bad on ps4. As a survivor you can 360 very quickly with the small sensitivity for killers and the 30 FPS cap. As a killer main who plays survivor with a friend or two often (never 4) I can say when you compare my killer tape to about like 90% of other killer tape (red rank) killers on ps4 (console altogether prob) are really, REALLY bad.
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360 very easily*
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Dude is Brown Rank forsure
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See you can say that, but it's all a matter of skill. As a killer, i 4K most games as well, quite easily, and of course not playing toxic. But on the other hand, most survivor games i also escape, and i only die if the killer specifically camps/tunnels me, or if the other survivor don't do gens. A perfect survivor can run a killer for a full game, but a smart killer will just leave immediately after getting 1 hit or a pallet down, because if they have time to get from 1 good loop to another, killer can't catch them. It's up to the killer to use skill and abilities to catch survivors off guard. The game is poorly balanced in the sense of skill, but a good killer will still have no problem unless he's up against 4 good survivors. The game is for sure not in favor of killers though. It's not as black and white as people think, but at the impossibly perfect level, survivors have the advantage.
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Pre ruin nerf? Maybe. Post? Hardly. I can spawn and move towards a generator and within 45 seconds a gen pops. Turn, head that direction. Chase, down, hook & 2nd gen pops. I’m not proficient with nurse who most consider the best killer. Can I get a 4k? Yes. However, most matches end with 2 dead & brutal killer since the ruin change. Survivor is much easier. I don’t consider myself a great player on either side but I can reach rank 2 as survivor. I’ve never been higher than a 5 as killer.
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Hey, try to face this team and tell me if u get 4K as Trapper with Brown addon
Pretty easy though
-3 Flash light
-3 Headon
-3 Borrowtime
-3 Andrenaline
-A chaser with DS and toolbox for sabo hook with Hook distance offer.
I dont think Killer is easy. I think you're great at the game.
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I’ve never agreed with someone more.
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Is this without tunneling, camping, slugging, body blocking, ect..? If it's all skill, then hats off to you..
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Didnt we already discussed why killers may look op? Especially Bubba! I cant wait for devs to make him 105 speed. But Im afraid that he will continue 4k..
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killer starts easy and gets harder the more you play.
just like survivor starts hard and gets easier the more you play.
i dont know what rank / plattform you are playing on, but your experience here differs quite a lot from mine - and i play both sides in red ranks (PC).
as a killer, games are extremely stressfull, especially when you play a killer with not too good map pressure. like, gens get done extremely fast and while i still 3 - 4k a lot, though i also have to put a lot of work into these results - and hope the team i am going up against isnt coordinated.
like, against 4 solos you can play majority of the killers, but a coordinated team makes almost every killer unviable, you can really just play the top 3 (Nurse, Spirit, Billy) when you want to stand a chance.
the main problem i have noticed with killer gameplay is, that you are racing against the clock and cant afford to waste any time - which is also why the second chance perks survivors have feel so cheap to killers, they are huge time wasters for little to no effort on the survivor side, therefore having a huge impact on the game.
for my survivvor experience, i find that to be a lot less stressfull. its mostly just chillin on a gen holding M1 and sometimes running circles with the killer (add some mindgames here aswell), stalling them for as long as i can so my team can get the gens done. honestly, the only times i died as a survivor lately was eigther by the killer having a red mori or my team being utterly useless. i end up escaping majority of my games without much effort, just by us finishing the gens faster than the killer could handle.
honestly, balance wise most killers are fine. the only thing that needs to change here are the trial times which are ridiculously short.
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Judging by the fact that you are saying you don't play it regularly shows me that you're probably not the highest rank? High rank killer and low rank killer are two completely different beasts.
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This has to be some of the worst bait I've seen in a long time XD
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People need to stop saying BS about consoles players. Yes there is a lot of potatoes and what on PC is even worse. I guess some of you never played against actual good player. Middle-east SwF is toxic and very strong but once again i guess no one ever played against them.
Me too i play killer win about 95% of my games is that due to me being a god or the ranking system being so flexible (Bad and Good mixed). I'm sure the second is the issue there.
I'm gonna repeat myself but, if matchmaking were skill-based all of you wouldn't be here doubting about what some killers said. Gens done in 3-5 min while barely hooking one or two have happened to me and with hillbilly. These SwF is rare but they do exist. I do not encounter them often but when i do it's not a easy match at all.
@Rizzo90 I'm i allowed to use Middle-east word.
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Depends on the killer you play.
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Those are 2 killers I’m really good at though. :( The only ones I’m not good at is Billy, Myers, Bubba, nurse, and Plaque
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I dont think its hard to play killer and im far from the best. The problem is the amount of toxicity in survivors. Survivors can stun you a million times with pallets, head-on you and T bag think there funny or that there some how way better than you but right when you kill all 4 they D/C and your messages blowup calling you a try hard or a sweat. Every game I play ends in a GG no matter the out come I play for fun and people are wayyyyy to serious when it comes to this game. Everybody thinking Im just against survivors im not because killers can be toxic too
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