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Is DbD pay to win?

MysteryPhoenix0
MysteryPhoenix0 Member Posts: 3
in General Discussions

The thing i ask myself is DbD pay to win

Well yes and no

Yes because you get cool perks or OP killers like the new deathslinger if you have good aim or ghostface wich you can hide and stalk to one hit

Second the perks we all know DS well its behind a paywall cool perks are lovked away a paywall but

Now to the No

You can get some DLC exclusive perks through the shrine in the shop for 2k shards each wich means alot of games and stuff but the work is worth it

And you can just spit on the perks and try to be as good as you can with NO perks

Perks are just to improve the game to help you but try it with no single perk

Comments

  • Heartbound
    Heartbound Member Posts: 3,255

    Pretty much hit the nail on the head. Killers used to have to pay for hag to get ruin (nobody ever plays hag)

    Unless you really wanna wait for ds to show up in the shop thats still a big deal to have available to you. It can be the difference between life and death.

    The default killers and survivors are strong yes, but if you want to go meta real quick you're probably throwing down money.

    That said its nothing like Maplestory or black desert online. Once you get the perk its just outfits and whatever.

  • Galklife
    Galklife Member Posts: 726

    its not pay to win, its pay to get it faster (when it comes to BBQ WAY faster), every perk can be in shrine (except newest DLC)

    and when it comes to killers, nurse is strongers (Free), spirit you can get via shards (or pay to get it faster), billy is FREE, huntress is FREE, all killers from top 4 are FREE (or you can get them for free)

    my core build for EVERY killers: enduring (from billy = FREE), whispers (FREE), BBQ (it was in shrine like 4times, but bubba was my 1st main so i dont feel like buying only perk) and 4th perk is rotating sloppy butcher (free), nurses calling (nurse is FREE), haunted grounds for memes (you can unlock spirit via shards)

    so if you have time to grind you can unlock hell a lot of things (except licensed characters but even then you can wait for their perks in shrine) but devs cant sell licensed content for free (even 4Head can understand that)

  • NursesBootie
    NursesBootie Member Posts: 2,159

    You get the nurse plus a good nurse build for free. Additionally you can get more teachables by unlocking killers with shards or using the shrine.

    It's not pay to win imo. GF is a 115% killer with no mobility and a buildup instadown with massive counterplay. And deathslinger is a worse huntress. She's free too btw.

  • TraitorousLeopard
    TraitorousLeopard Member Posts: 156

    Honestly, the whole Shrine of Secrets idea needs to be scrapped. It feels very scummy and manipulative when certain licensed character perks just happen to show up on the shrine very rarely. I own all the DLCs, but I feel awful for anyone waiting on something to show up in the shrine.

    Just make it a consistent shop- buy any perk, any time, for 2k. Hell, make it 3 or 4k and have the shrine be for perk "sales". But let people consistently unlock gameplay relevant content.

  • Heartbound
    Heartbound Member Posts: 3,255
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1121375#Comment_1121375

    Devs hire this man.

  • kcwolf1975
    kcwolf1975 Member Posts: 651
    edited February 2020

    Definitely not p2w, just faster like @Galklife says. There are so many free perks that anyone can put together a good build without throwing down any money. Don't believe that you have to have ds or BBQ to win, most of the time I run ds i either don't get tunneled or I get slugged. Either way it was a wasted perk.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,668

    i would argue that it really isnt.

    any content hidden behind a paywall (excluding licensed content, due to it being licensed) can be obtained for free from the shop.

    the above mentioned Deathslinger for example will be purchasable for 9.000 iridescent shards, which are obtainable with playtime.

    the same for any perks (including the licensed ones) with the shrine of secrets, as you have already mentioned (i still think the SoS needs a rework though).

    the only content that could somewhat be considered "pay 2 win" would be licensed killers - yet there isnt a ot the Devs can do here, as they themselves had to pay for that content and therefore they cant just give it out for free. and even those are playable for free with shards (i do believe you can still get shards for licensed killers - correct me if im wrong here tho).

  • Rivyn
    Rivyn Member Posts: 3,032

    It's not, though. . .

    Every killer and survivor, with their own perks, can be bought with shards. Meaning, it's not P2W. You just invest time. If you drop cash, it's to save time. Not to get something nobody else has unless they themselves drop cash.

    Though you lost me in your argument when you labeled Deathslinger 'op.'

  • illusion
    illusion Member Posts: 887

    No, it's not pay to win. Even if we ignore the shrine of secrets, the perks and killers that are paywalled are not necessary to win. Even DS is not needed to win. It's nice to have, but you can easily get by without it.

  • Mat_Sella
    Mat_Sella Member Posts: 3,589

    3 of my 4 survivor perks are basegame, so i wouldnt believe its pay to win at all. Now, if the Ash Williams chapter never got nerfed THEN i would say it's pay to win.

  • Auron471
    Auron471 Member Posts: 1,310

    Technically it is pay to win, since Freddy has the highest kill rate, but he is locked behind a paywall. Also, a lot of really good perks are locked behind paywalls too. And dont give me that "shrine of secrets stuff". That is hella RNG and could be weeks or months before it shows up.