Why are console players so scared of k/m being enabled?

The only issue I can see is that they may have trouble against certain killers Nurse because she can flick to turn around faster than console players are used too, same with Oni, and then they'll probably also go against some substantially better huntress' but I know people who exclusively play survivor on controller and they're some of the best survs I know.

I'm very traditional with something like this, since I've been playing console games for almost 18 years now, all starting with Crash Team Racing on the original Playstation. I play console because I don't want to play M&KB, and I like the feel of a controller. It's also going to have an overflow effect if some games start to have it as a feature.

It will start with DbD, then CoD players will complain and it gets enabled on there, it continues to something like Overwatch with a more competitive scene and then even Rainbow Six: Siege where they are highly competitive, and controller vs. M&KB gameplay is a very different story. Console as a whole is slower and more methodical in Siege, compared to the twitchy headshot focused gameplay of PC.

Consoles don't have THAT much going for them compared to PC, and it almost feels like an invasion of our space. Yes, there are controllers for PC, but they are also generally 3rd party and basically unlicensed. I can't use my Microsoft wireless Xbox One controller on my PC.

I also like that there is a slightly different meta between PC and Console. There are enough Hillbillies to the point that he is our Nurse, especially when I first hit Purple ranks. Some killers are more viable on console, some are far worse. There are also good and oppressive Huntress and Nurse players on console, but they are more rare, and after versing them I'm fine with them staying that rare.

This is news to me, not that I play Overwatch anymore and despise CoD multiplayer. Last time I heard, it was still a bannable offense.

And it's also as I originally said. Different killers are viable on console and I like it that way. It also means thatI don't have to fall back in the meta survivor build.

In a shooter I could understand but this game? K/M wouldnt make much of a difference.

No?

Survivior on controller is better than on mouse and keyboard

If the DBD devs were willing to balance separately, they would have done so by now. KB/M is just an easier, safer way to actually balance the console versions a little better.

Nah. I'm good without MnK on Dead By Daylight. I played various games on PC for years before moving back to console with the 360 and I can definitely say, using a mouse will always be easier than using a stick. Your aim is so so so much better with mouse compared to a stick. It would definitely be an unfair advantage.

Now, if they implemented crossplay between the consoles.. that should have happened. Hell, if they turned it on clear across the board but had an option where you could choose to opt in with PC players or not, that would be even better.

So is adding cross-play. Then you don"t have to worry about M&KB on console.

As someone who plays controller on PC (personal preference), and also owns the game on console; I can confirm that it makes a huge difference.

Survivor becomes slightly easier on keyboard because the movements are less fluid, making you harder to predict vs killers like Huntress.

Killer becomes a lot easier because for some unknown reason the sensitivity is very low on controller compared to M/K, i.e. when I use a mouse, not only am I more accurate, but I can also move my camera faster- which makes it easier to track survivors that move erratically.

You add cross-play across all platforma. You then say, you pick a platform, you pick your controller type.

PS4 and Xbox use their more traditional controllers, Switch hss the joycons and PC has M&KB.

Does it though? What if I don't WANT to verse M&KB players on console?

And how doesn't my solution fix the problem?

What if I want to play Killers that struggle on console because no kb/m? Gotta consider pros/cons and figure out what has the highest benefit.

Your solution doesn't make those killers less of a struggle on console.

None of those really fix the problem. That's just a "deal with it" kind of answer, which can be applied to facing kb/m (except you have the option to use kb/m as well).

The kb/m solution aims to fix this problem.

In my opinion it'd be balanced if the sensitivity for killers on console could be raised a lot and give people more flexibility. @Peanits 👀👀

I honestly think it’s an all or nothing situation.

You either allow console users to also use a mouse, or don’t include it.

The difference is the usual control system, on PC everyone uses mouse to operate the PC so if you decide to use a controller knowing it puts you at a disadvantage then that’s your decision; however controller is the norm for console and those who choose to buy a mouse would do so because it gives them an advantage over almost everyone else and not everyone would have it as an option for various reasons.

Those of you who are trying to suggest there is no advantage to using a mouse over a pad, I can’t understand how you can’t see it; although I admit for the most part that in DbD the advantage is smaller than other games where precision is important, it’s still significant.

I guess if you could enable/disable playing against people using it (CoD does this atm afaik) I couldn’t see the problem, but BHVR have said they don’t want to split the playerbase up with seperate queues in the past iirc.

Does it though? Does it fix the problem? I don't think so.

And I don't see how M&KB will fix problems like my lunge not hitting what it should. I don't see how M&KB will fix an issue of holding the charge just that bit too short and teleporting to a wall, rather than past it. All I see your solution doing is enraging a lot of console players, who have always been controller only and banned M&KB users for years now.

My solution merely maintains the status-quo. My solution also opens WILLING console players to go up against M&KB users in the form of PC players.

Again, my solution ALSO gives said benefit while allowing people to have the choice of cross-play. People have said before that cross-play should be an option.

And my problem won't be fixed by M&KB, my problem which is the only problem I've found with a controller with one of these "precision" characters, and should therefore be disregarded. Ok. Sure.

As a player in general, I'm having a hard enough time with poor matchmaking, people abusing their power with overuse of killer powers/camping/tunnelling or general perk abuse like Borrowed Time bodyblocking, lag-switching issues since Dedicated Servers were a nightmare on Xbox and now you want to introduce a new problem for me to face. Let's fix the damn game before we add more issues for people to worry about, shall we?

i want it on console lol the only reason people don’t want it is because they don’t like change and wanna 360 killers easily with this they actually have to try and learn loops better

But why should I have to go against M&KB against my will? THAT's what I'm fighting against. People have always had the option of going to PC with a controller. I know that the opposite can be argued, but it's such a huge advantage in a majority of games.

There are just too many issues I see with this change and in the game in general before we add things like M&KB console support. So, let's look over some of them, shall we? Just a quick overview.

Huntress - Broken hitboxes in general. Now add lag issues. Huntress players do fine. Possibly a little worse than PC, but they also get more axe hits than hatchet.

Hillbilly & Oni - Flicks have never been a thing on console. We've had consistent curving instead. Now I have to take a gamble as to which one my opponent is using? I've also said before that I've versed Hillbillies like PC has Nurses and I'm over versing him. This will bring him back in a surge of popularity.

Nurse - Nobody plays her, but those who do at a high level are already extremely oppressive. Full red lobby, except me. One gen done. Corn map too. Has also happened on the Asylum. Only games I can recall.

Deathslinger - No PTB, can't comment. At least he has ironsights and doesn't rely that much on flick-shots since there is no headshot mechanic. He should be fine with a controller anyway.

Umm as much as I'm against Keyboard and Mouse coming to console or PC Console crossplay... You're definitely wrong. Both games support Keyboard and Mouse on console and have crossplay. I am always going against PC CoD players and I'll get stomped. But yet I'm a beast if I turn crossplay off and cut out Keyboard and Mouse players. You can tell they have a HUGE advantage. Just wanted to clear that up.

I being a ps4 player am down for keyboard and mouse functionality for the game but I never really get why people think its an advantage. Its a keyboard with over 50 keys your not gonna all use and a mouse where you can do 180s and 360 which you can already do on console with the right sens and practice. This would be the section where someone would say "jUsT GeT GoOd" but what I say, if it does get enabled.

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