Why are alot of killer mains so mean
Everytime a survivor complains about anything they get harassed by killer mains who call them entitled,crybabys or toxic and tell them to git gud instead of just discussing why they disagree with the survivor. Can anyone tell me why? Killers call survivors toxic over everything but insulting someone for there opinion also sounds a bit toxic.
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Yeah just do your best to avoid engaging with them as any criticism of the match a lot take as you 'attacking' them and bruises their ego. You do get some who are open and honest about unfair hits/glitches or 'unreasonable play' and will discuss it normally though. But if you do start getting 'ez' and 'git gud' comments back just leave them to it and don't pander to them
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Because they can't relax and play the game for fun.So this is why they always end up being ultra salty and criticise the other side.
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Because killer gameplay feels way more competetive. So the people mainly playing killer are more focused to win (4k/pip) than the survivor side.
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Killers cant relax when playing this game because its too stressful. They have to be on the edge of their seat, sweating their arms off in order to play to win. They also cannot have fun because of how strong survivors are at red ranks.
Killers speak up against survivors because they want the game to be balanced and fun for themselves as well
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This is why you stay and low ranks.
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It is damn near impossible not to rank up. I can casually play something with no intent to win, and I either lose no pips or I gain +1. +2 if the survivors are clearly solo.
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The very fact that mains exist is a large reason why this community has so much toxicity. I could understand not wanting to play a certain role if this was Age of Empires or something. For example, if you like infantry combat so you'll never use an archer or cavalry civ, I understand that form of aversion. However, DBD is a game where both roles have such vastly different play styles it's common to see that people fail to fully understand each other, resulting in these clashes. Survivors might complain about a killer camping when in reality they're chasing the survivor that decided to loop next to a hooked teammate. Killers might complain about gen rushing while forgetting that at the start of a match repairing is in most cases the primary goal of survivors. (So until the killer starts chasing, hooks, or downs a survivor what else do they honestly expect the survivors to do?)
That being said, not everyone will be hostile, and if you can filter out the ignorant crowd, then you might just find some meaningful discussion.
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I dont main any side but i do play more killer cos i am far better at it. I suck as a surv but am better than avg at killer. Plus i like the extra bp
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That's not a killer trend. Both killers and survivors do that in the majority of threads that involve gameplay discussion.
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Hey now, let's try not to generalize all killer mains as toxic people.
For a lot of multiplayer games, players come to the forums mostly to complain rather than give thanks and compliment, so it makes a lot of sense that killers in green/purple ranks would come over here and complain; It is pretty frustrating in those ranks. (mostly due to matchmaking but you get my point). Or simply people who have experienced bad matches, or have had many bad experiences with certain perks.
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So coming from a killer main who's been rank 1 both before and after the changes to Hex: Ruin.
First off many killer complaints are met with the same toxicity from survivor mains, to pretend this issue only goes in one direction is laughable. Second looking at your username I'm not entirely sure this isn't bait, but hell, I typed this already.
So survivor complaints on the forums anyway are usually dismissed because they are scattershot and tend to just be "X perk was frustrating me in the last game so now I'm going to rant about it". I mean we have a post up here right now complaining about infectious fright, a perk literally countered by either calm spirit, splitting up, or just hiding if you get revealed as the perk doesn't even show auras. Hell we had a thread last night complaining about Franklin's demise? Really?
You'll notice killer complaints across the board tend to be very uniform, which is why people give more credence to them. The most popular being.
1) Map design, particularly Ormond and Crotus Penn. Gigantic maps are pretty much safety pip at best for killers now due to lack of early game generator slowdown due to the changes to Hex: Ruin.
2) Generators popping early game immediately putting killers on the back foot and scrambling to even safety pip, going back to problem one and the lack of ruin, maps being so large it's entirely common to finish one short chase, do a hook, and watch 1-2 generators pop. This now puts the killer in a position where they have accomplished 1/12th of their goals, while the survivors have completed 1-2/5 of theirs.
Killers call survivors toxic and survivors call killers toxic, this is nothing new in a pvp style game community, particularly one with asymmetrical PVP, but to pretend it's all going in one direction is just silly.
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I see your name original poster...
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My name's cause i used to main nancy and a killer called me toxic cause i flashlight saved
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You can ask the exact same to survivor mains xD. Alot of survivors call me for no reason toxic, camper, tunneler, slugger (As oni how dare I slugg as oni!!) or they insult me personally because I killed them.
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I'm talking about the fourms but yea Im game survivors are toxic alot
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As a killer main, my take on the situation is that we are tired of survivors complaining to get killers nerfed. For example, nurses basekit nerf is unjustified and the devs stated that they added the cooldowns, to give survivors breathing space.
I'm only rude to ignorant and entitled survivors. Yesterday I got into it with a survivor main that said Nurse and Spirit need to be deleted because they avoid looping. I tired offering that survivor counters to them, but they stayed ignorant and said they needed to be deleted, so I just told them to get good
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I'm not really "mean" but i have to say, as example.
Just got a match at rank 1 with oni, played as far as possible, got away from hooked ppl, didint slug too much (is oni) didnt tunneled,got 2 kills, the surv were good, nice game you will say.
Nope, in the post game chat one of them literally said:
-Rank 2 #########? You are #########!
Now, if i win being an a-hole you insult me, if i play fair you insult me wile laughing cuz you escape...
you can say not all survivors are like that, but how can i know from time to time?
also, disable end game chat, i do that some times, is relaxing
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There was a post about infectious fright needing a nerf ( i think its balanced) and some people were telling him about calm spirit but others were just insuling him
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Alright in that case that is weird, I never meet ppl like that here, but it seems that alot of ppl here are passive agressive. I mean with that, they write often replies that seem to call you negatively out or your opinion but they hide that in a wording where it is not that bad than it should sound. I made a while ago a post about unbreakable, that the perk can be very strong if it works. Then once someone answered with "Devour hope, if it works its too good LUL".
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They get beat by two man SWF groups and view all survivors as sabo squads, as well as viewing the devs as some heartless monsters who only seek to make their lives hell.
basically like any game when 1 side loses
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Because it's obviously a situation where said perk just hurt him in one game so his overreaction is to complain and ask for it to be nerfed, which is insanity.
This is the kind of stuff that makes survivor mains or survivor-sided players look out of touch and frankly stupid, whining about a perk on a whim when killers tend to be bringing up issues they see in EVERY game.
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They deal with a lot of toxic survivors so they have to stand strong playing alone against gangs of bullies in some games.
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Will posts like this ever end?
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If I had to guess its because you really only see killer mains in three scenarios.
You were the last to die and you're sitting there with a person expecting you to attack them.
You all 4 escaped and you're having fun with your survivor friends and the killer is pouty because he displeased the entity.
The killer got mad enough to make a forum post.
Most killers 4k every game (and sometimes 5k) and never feel angry in the slightest so there's no reason to post about problems.
Just don't complete any generators and make sure not to crawl away from the hook like an entitled survivor main and you'll see killer mains are quite kind. They may even give you the hatch if you're a really good boy!
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I completely agree with this, there is an equal amount of salt and toxicity in the forums from both killer and survivor.
Survivors moan about camping and tunnelling and will get responses like "git gud", don't get caught in the first place", "oh you must be rank ##" etc
Killers moan about gens going too fast and they're met with "git gud", "pressure the gens, it's not that hard", "oh you must be rank ##" etc
You get the point, but as above post said ignoring one side and pointing the finger at another is just plain silly.
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It’s not an opinion it’s fact and if killer mains explained to every crybaby why, there would be no time to even play the game. Why would you explain in full detail why their stupid a hundred times over. You need to copy paste or just call them stupid for not researching themselves with logic and experience. Honestly it’s frustrating because devs lean towards lower rank complainers. It’s so easy it’s actually gotten boring a bit as survivor in swf.
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Put very simply, the people who are rude and abrasive to each other on this forum, understand that there is no real consequence to being an ass to someone over the internet, in a way that most of them wouldn't dare to in real life. Both sides are as bad as each other for this, because you don't have to be killer or survivor to treat people like cr*p, its a personal choice.
And all over a video game. Christ I must be getting old, because i just don't understand it myself.
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I mean, survivors do it too
I don’t do it that often
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Honestly both sides can be pretty hostile towards each other. Though I would agree on the average the killers seem quicker to be hostile.
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Years ago it was decreed that all killer mains must smite all those that have the will and hope to survive. They was told to do the enititys work to drain these so called survivors of all hope and that certain plucky will they have...
Unfortunately I really don't have a clue I am a proud pig main but also play suriviour. Unfortunately it works both ways and this war with each other really stops the actual improvement we all desire.
I will always listen to views on how to improve this game unfortunately some will not. And the trolls that like to insite petty baits and insite reactions are the worst offenders. Nothing will change unless we change and drop this behaviour.
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I have always feel the war between survivors and killers only in the forums and other social media plattforms.
Sure I had also see toxicity sometimes in the game, but I had blame it then on the person and not the role, they are decided to play.
That said and also as already mentioned, -in the forums is the war real. From my killerpoint of view for good reasons and I assume, some survivors have also their reasons.
Edit: And to say it clear: By all what had happened, I can understand killers and survivors.
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You act like Survivors aren't extremely toxic and rude. If anything, I think Survivors are more toxic than Killers.
Both sides are toxic, it's not one or the other.
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Yea i agree that alot of survivors are toxic. But alot of killer mains insult survivors for no reason and then act like all killers are angels
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Your username is "toxicnancymain"... 🙄
Obvious bait thread is obvious.
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People are called toxic because they are toxic, not because they complain.
Also, this is a very one sided question. Why is it that you don;t see survivor mains doing the exact same thing?
Since the game has been made easier for survivors lately, it has definitely made killers a bit on edge. Killers have to play harder and more aggressively, and can still struggle to pip. Meanwhile, the game has become so easy for skilled survivors, especially swf groups, that they no longer just enjoy playing the game, so they get their enjoyment out of making the game as frustrating for the killer as possible, and then mock them in the post game chat.
If we had fewer mains, and more people playing both sides, things would be better for the game, as a whole. As it is now, those of us that play both can't have an opinion without being labelled as a main for the other side. It's really sad.
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I've been staying at Rank 16 killer and I'm still being paired up with Ranks 3, 8's and 12's.
So much for "not ranking up."
And yes, I'm purposefully staying Rank 16 for a while because killer worse the higher you go.
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My name is toxic nancy main cause i used to main nancy and got called toxic by my teammate when i bodyblocked him then flashlightsaved him
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After my experiences is talking to survivor mains, like talking to a wall:
No matter how you argue and how much you listen by yourself to them - they just ignore everything and going forward with the things they want to say, even if you have them multiple times prove wrong.
This sitution was as example, what had make me clear that the discussions were less about topic X and more about killers vs survivors and that had let me pick a side.
If survivors are not interested in what a killer thinks and just want to talk them down, it is wise to realize this and draw your conclusions from that.
I don't say, that my story fits to everyone, but I also think that I am not alone with that mindset and experience.
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Killers can't sit down and relax while holding M1 on a generator.
Playing killer means chasing the survivor through a plethora of T Walls, Pallets, shacks and generators during a chase.
It's quite stressful, anything a survivor complains about (except for tunneling and camping which to me are valid complaints) is marked as invalid. The game has been pandering to survivors for the past year so they have literally nothing to complain about.
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If you are actually looking for a serious answer. I would say that Killers are just done with getting the ######### end of the stick. I play both, so I see how it is from both sides, and I can say with full certainty that survivors are a lot meaner, and a lot worse than Killers. The amount of toxic Survivors greatly outnumber the amount of Killers as well.
Since Killers literally have been getting beaten by the same stick by survivors since the start of the game, and now more than ever getting beaten by a stick from the dev's. I am surprised more didn't start to just go "######### it, guess i'll just treat them the same way" sooner.
Let's also not forget many of the "nice" killers just stop playing. Friendly gamers are more likely to leave a game that continuously kicks them when they are already down than toxic gamers are. Toxic gamers thrive in communities where they can play poorly and still bm other players. So all the killers that play Demogordon, and Trapper in red ranks - that don't tunnel, don't camp, and give hatch all left. While all the basement bubba's, cloak camping wraiths, and hook to puzzle box tunneling Pigs stick around to ensure you have a worse time.
Even then I still find - to this day - there are more toxic survivors than I see toxic killers.
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Most of us don't, the community as a whole basically insults anyone who has an opinion about anything. It's not a killer or survivor thing it's a this community is generally unpleasant thing haha.
I find survivors to be more toxic in the post game chat however, but killers to be more toxic with their in game actions. Herd mentality can really amp that up too, 4 survivors to one killer, human nature makes them gang up on the killer most of the time. I've had games where survivors would literally just leave a guy to die on hook, and then postgame they would be like "#########?" and a survivor would go "Lol sorry they were camping like a *****" and then that survivor that died would be like "Oh well **** that guy" like just immediately believe a straight up lie passing the buck, and then all four ganged up on me for "camping" as I chased other people on the other side of the map?
These are who they are calling entitled, not everyone who has an opinion:
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Killer mains can't 'relax' when the game actively punishes them for doing so.
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Most of the "mean killer mains" (those guys that just say "bait" and never post any actual arguments) are quite simply bad at the game and thus consider everything that could possibly buff survivors/nerf killers a personal attack.
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When a pallet hits you the survivor Tea bags and then flashlight blinds you not once but 5 times in a match it gets annoying very fast.
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The very fact you're telling killers to stay in low ranks to have fun is exactly what's wrong with this game.
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Yeah I do stay at low ranks lol, rank 4
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Damn straight. I can’t wait until the 13th because right now I am rank 5. And let me tell you, there ain’t no way that i deserve a rank higher than 10!
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In a game the killer cant relax he always need to be active and on edge not only that but right now the game is not forgiving for the killer if you compare them to the survivor and all the salt you receive from the killer is because they get t bag every single game and harass in the chat after the game
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Yup the time all my fun is when rank reset happen like that i can play all the killer and still do good then i hit rank 5 and im only spamming my main killer if i dont im getting bully really hard
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Mains on both sides are super toxic. Just encourage people to play both sides and not to be toxic.
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