getting kinda tired of the same killers in red ranks (Console)
At least for me these past 20 games has either been ghostface freddy or spirit. (all the rank 1s ive faced are literally freddy). i got 1 billy and honestly id take that because thats funner then these 3.
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Whenever I boot up the game I start off with a couple Freddy's then it's Billy till the cows come home. I love Billy but variety is nice too.
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This is entirely on the devs for making so few killers viable and driving off a large percentage of killers with bad design choices. If you want to play against a more varied cast of killers, you should support more killer buffs, because it's far too rough for most killers for most people right now.
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i do i play both sides i guess im one of the rare ones for playing nurse most of the time.
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Oof, hope we play then. I'm an oni main
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btw playing another round its a ghostface...
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Soon...
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I mean, I play 10+ killers at red ranks, but I'm better than most killers. Not trying to be a douche, but that's just how I see it, since I'm r1 kill and surv. Most people aren't Scott Jund or Tru3 or Otz or Zubat, and will have a hard time at red ranks with non A or S tier killers. People dont want to sweat their balls off to get a kill, they want to have fun.
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Same, I love Oni. He's so strong.
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At least for me these past 20 games have all had Keys, Decisive Strike, Dead Hard, and Borrowed Time (all the Rank 1s I've faced all use these three perks). I got 1 Yui with Head On, Dance With Me, and Lithe, and honestly I'll take that because that's more fun than the same [BAD WORD] over and over again.
Why should people put themselves at a disadvantage? If you can do really well with the same 3 Killers/perks, while others are a gamble, why should you stop using the reliable ones?
I'm not trying to mock this issue; but it's very much an intentional balance choice to let Killers and perks have wildly varying strengths and power levels, which of course means you're going to see more of the strong and less of the weak.
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Unrelated, but I'm getting tired of seeing constant red ranks as a green rank killer on console. I actually feel like ######### rn.
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I see everybody but Plague, Trapper, Demo, Nurse and Pig
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Surprisingly I encounter everyone but Clown, Hag, and Trapper. The Plague is almost non existent; last night I played her in Rank 3 and I got heckled by a four man swf I beat saying she's awful. P.S they cleansed like a lot.
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Sadly, this is the product of poor killer designs and killer's not being able to excel well in certain things. You just named off killer's with either great map or chase pressure. In order for other killer's to be like that, they have to heavily rely on perks and/or survivor's making mistakes
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Exactly this...it seems that higher ranks are generally more toxic as well, seen to want to annoy the killer so they disconnect. I've had 4 rank 1s in my last game, 3 flashlights, all had DC and BT and all used the same character so it made it impossible to know who was who. Tbagging constantly. It's a shame because all that will happen is nobody will play killer so that will be the end of it
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Really? On PS4 I find Red Ranks actually has some pretty good variety.
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As a rank 1 legion main and I assume one of the few people dumb enough to play him at high ranks I have to assume this was my doing, I apologize. If it was a legion using the dark hoodie backpack ensemble it was definitely me.
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Yeah just happened to me again and I've been having a really ######### day and I feel like ######### #########. Decisive Striked at the gates, teabagged, I feel like offing myself.
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You have to be green ranks on PS4 to get a variety of killers and then in green rank killer you only get red rank survs
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Can't say I miss red ranks. Since I stopped playing as much due one thing or another Im stuck in green ranks at the moment simply from not playing more than 1-3 times a week. Just today Survivor perk builds haven't been bad at all, rather varied really. But the toolbox and key spam as been non stop.
Played 5 games today, ALL of them at least 2 toolboxes with a key in half of those games. Green/purple rank Survivors are making an honest attempt at being tryhard today. Thankfully a good chunk of them have been potatoes and Iv been able to do well. But I know sooner or later Im going to be back in red ranks, and I am going to hate it.
Killers need Survivors to make mistakes. If they don't. Then there isn't much the majority of Killers can do but maybe earn some BP before the game ends. It's one reason why I don't play nearly as much. My skill as Killer doesn't mean much in how good I do as Killer. Rather sick of earning 20-25K BP games working my ass off to do well and getting told "do better next time" by the game with a black pip.
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I play on console currently on rank 4 on survivor and there is actually plenty of variety, and ever since the Ruin nerf theres actually variety in perks to which is such a huge relief XD. Now it's mostly BBQ and Chili or Corrupt Intervention with any other two random perks. I think the slight problem right now is playing as killer. All red ranks are mostly running the same perks. Dead Hard (which I am entirely immune to it. So easy to bait out) DS (unlike many others, I don't have much of a problem with it....yet) and Adrenaline with usually One or even 2 freaking keys in the match. It's fun to absolutely destroy them but it requires a lot of concentration to truly screw their game plan up and a map that doesn't have endless jungle gyms.
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Played 5 games today, ALL of them at least 2 toolboxes with a key in half of those games. Green/purple rank Survivors are making an honest attempt at being tryhard today.
This is exactly how most of my Red Rank games are going. Either the Survivors mess up and I take advantage to win, or I don't take advantage/I mess up and lose. Either way the game's outcome is decided in about a minute or two thanks to the fast Toolboxes and the Key guy.
The Survivors themselves are pretty nice folks most of the time (a lot of people who hate Wraith and Legion but otherwise okay); it's just how the game goes.
I blame the up coming toolbox change personally, but who knows.
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Killers said underperforming killers needed to be brought up, especially when considering high rank game play.
A bunch of players said balancing for high ranks is stupid, and we should balance for the lower end.
And BHVR said not all killers need to be viable at high ranks.
And this is what you get. Not all killers need to be viable at high ranks, so not all killers show up commonly at high ranks.
Game balance 101
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killers get tired of facing dead hard, DS, BT + toolboxes every game too.
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On top of poor killer designs we have a perk grind. Fun fact is devs lock their game features behind a grind wall. I guess, they dont want it to be fun.. Devs designed their game to be boring. I would try a stealth build on unusual killers (for example, Nemesis with Furtive Chase and Monitor & Abuse) and step out of usual designs, but I need to grind the perks first and, for, every, single, killer, lol. Is it worth my time? Likely - not. Back to default playstyle. Enjoy the same killer for 100h and the same boring playstyles. I didnt cared to farm in my first 100h and I care even less to do it after 1000h. And DLCs- Im not forced to buy them. You will wait until a perk that can add fun to the game will show up in the shrine.. if I will care to check it.. and if I will care to save shards to buy it. This is why things will stay boring.
Also, moving too much outside of boring default designs will likely make devs nerf a killer. They nerfed Pigs 28 terror radius (changed it to 32m). Now imagine if I would get it to 8m? Devs would make Piggy the 2nd Huntress with 45m Lullaby (or wider TR).
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im on ps4, main pig, wraith, and legion. also sometimes play huntress.
hopefully you go against me sometime if youre on ps4 lol
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I get most of the time billys or huntress's on Pc :/
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Just derank.
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I haven't played a freddy in a couple days. Must be your luck.
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What happens when you get a different killer ? Do you trash them. ?
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Im not one of those ######### who derank to bully killers im fine with staying where i am.
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Nope im not a pro 360 juke survivor lol. So with other killers you win some you lose some. Its just boring facing the same 3 killers over and over. (I blackpip each time so its pretty much for nothing).
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Freddy Billy and sprit are either easy , strong or both. Personally I play all killers but billy and nurse but most people struggle with the weaker killers. Killers want that 4k and if they dont get it every game they see it as a loss. Both sides need to accept you win lose some times and everyone will have a better time
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It's more of a mentality issue than a game issue imo.
Most players who reach a set point tend to go out soley to win at all costs so will naturally use what helps grant them that.
Many out there use mid to low tier killers and can do just as well but for some they need the power of these upper tiers to stay where they are.
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maybe, just maybe, people would play different killers if the devs would release killers that are actually strong on console... hard to believe ik.
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On PC its Billy, spirit, huntress. Used to be nurse but not many use her anymore after her rework. The big issue is not all killers are strong and every time they try to buff them, survivors scream bloody murder. Seriously survivors. Is trapper being able to rearm his traps without picking them up the end of the world?
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Hmm. What do you think about taunting harmless m1 killers behind pallets all match long then? Is it not a part of the issue?
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Over the past week in resanks I keep getting plagues, pigs, bubbas, and spirits
I havent come across a freddy since Rank resets
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Bully killers?
I didn't say anything about bullying killers. You said you want variety in what you go against. The only way currently; is to derank where you don't face sweaty Billy's every game..
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The devs said in their stream that "not every killer needs to be top tier viability ... we aim to make a killer that is fun for both sides," (this was back after Freddy's initial release, iirc).
This translates to very little variety at top ranks.
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Lol if it was susie that might haven been me XD
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Yeah I only run ds, borrowed and dead hard the last perk I mess around with but those 3 are just needed if the killer plays a bit campy
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Does this mean we should have the lower tier killers buffed so they are viable? No let's nerf the over achievers.
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If it's a 4 v 1 game I can't believe they haven't done something to make Survivors overachieving by completing to many gens (1.2) much harder like they did when killers are given an opportunity to Kill a few more when Survivors make mistakes and actually face consequences for it.
I'm excited to torment some deathslingers before I end up ripping my eyes out from having to witness all gens pop in the first 2 mins and have every hook I go to destroyed.
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It's because most killers are weak and most of the better one got nerfed to hell, reducing the playable killers further
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Define buffed. Everyone is using Nebulous terms for killers that you can't be braindead to use.
Fundamental gameplay is already so precarious that any small change can throw off balance. Losing a single survivor can make a game unwinnable.
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You can't blame the players for the viability of the killers.
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Sryy I play a lot of Freddy
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i play alot of killers. i just normally preform worse with some than others and end up not using them for a while.
i also play both sides so note that.
like my level 1 trapper sometimes does better than my level 44 demogorgon
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that's because it's so easy to play and rank up as freddy, with no real effort..
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