Tool box rework is pathetic.

Best thing to do is to not allow Survivors to bring in items PERIOD! You come in and have to search a chest to find an item. It makes zero sense as to why they're allowed to bring items in to begin with.

The Devs wanted to change the overall function of Toolboxes with the Sabo buff, and since the Gen Speed is already fast, they decided to make the impact Toolboxes have in the game less major.

Yeah, the problem is, most Maps have some sort of God Loop, and that's quite problematic when Survivors know how to use them as effectively as possible.

Yeah, true. Since Toolboxes aren't that impactful anymore, they aren't as feared as they used to be.

It really depends on RNG. If a given iteration of a Map has far too many strong, interconnected loops then it's quite difficult to get a down.

The amount of people who throw a hissy fit rather than adapting to a situation is astounding.

lol imagine needing toolboxes 🤣

Are y'all serious??? "Insanely Fast Repair Speeds?" That's not a Toolbox issue! that's a Perk setup issue! ######### is even the point of these toolboxes now. even with a really good one it'd still take me 60+ seconds which is MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME for a killer to happen in my area and look for me. Now we're stuck with these useless tin cans that deplete in 6 seconds for what, 10% of the gen?

Survivor mains have a right to be mad about this update as it doesn't affect the killer's any more or less.

how are you pulling that from what i said?

I'm telling you how long a gen use to take, WITH A TOOLBOX, if the survivor is not found.

I never implied anything, of the sort, about wanting to not be found. My complaint is about the fact that the toolbox is useless now because it doesn't do any amount of reasonable repairing. Just because you're unlucky with finding Suvivors, doesn't mean that they're Insta-Popping Gen's as you have VERY CLEARLY pointed out in your anger over playing killer against Surv's that know how to fit a TB and setup their perks.

I wouldn't be surprised, in the least, if you constantly try to put words into other people's mouths, like you tried to do with me. Go back and read what i put and what everyone else is saying!

TB's are completely useless now, just like the Flashlight and those damn Chinese Firecrackers. But, seeing as how you responded to me about gens, i'm going to guess you'll say Flashlight's are OP and you ALWAYS get blinded and stunned by the firecrackers.

The problem was never a single toolbox but how 4 with the best add-ons could finish gens much quicker then they would like.

If a change such as this makes you hate the game so much is suggest taking a break for a while. Maybe if you come back then you will realise tool boxes were never needed and they are being changed to what they should be. An item which gains a survivor a little extra speed in gen time.

The playerbase isn't dropping. Everytime changes come about some post the exact same statement. Wishing for something and it being true are quite different.

Yes, not to mention I think they were changed to be more utilized for hooks now that each one "unlocks" sabo... However I think that yes, they are weak on gens (but that's a good thing in my opinion for killers who aren't as skilled) but they are really good on hooks, even if they only get a few uses. I for one would like a very slight (and I mean slight) buff to the hooks returning (for survivors) so that when the hooks are sabotaged they actually take a little longer than 15-20 seconds to spawn a new one... Otherwise we're going to continue to see killers camping downed survivors (from what I've seen) until all toolboxes are used up on them.

Sounds like something a crybaby killer main would say. No, I agree here they were over nerfed. There’s hardly any charges to even be able to use them anymore. I’d almost rather not even bring one in because it’s literally almost useless now. It’s ridiculous how hard survivors have to work to get out alive while killers prance around Mori’ing people and moving around so swiftly. Yet they complain about perks that literally prevent the killer from preventing someone from being able to play. Toolboxes just really didn’t need that hard of a nerf. If the aim is to slow down the rate at which gens are completed then you have to slow down the rate at which the killer can kill you. Why should killers still be able to rob you of your 2nd and 3rd hook by using a Mori? I literally see an ebony one in every single blood web level in the 40s and beyond. It’s not as “ultra rare” as it should be. I’m sorry but nobody should have to be anyone’s kill every game and this game is buffing killers too much.

It’s not disliking the game to complain about something that shouldn’t have been tampered with in the first place. Toolboxes are very necessary because it allows solo survivors to have a chance when they’re teams been knocked down. So many games I’ve been in where my teams constantly going down and I don’t have that extra help I need to repair gens. Because it takes WAY too long by yourself simply because the killer can easily run laps around generators before they even get any progress on it. The killers move too fast and they have too many ways to cause significant regression on generators that it’s almost not even fun to do anymore. The gens need to be more spread out In my opinion for that reason. Killers shouldn’t be able to camp gens like I’ve seen. Even with gens to do on complete opposite sides of the map, killers can still camp them. Please tell me, why is it you feel you come into a game as killer and deserve to kill anyone? 90% of the time I was seeing killers get their 4Ks. And that’s going against red and purple rank survivors. Killers are too strong. Don’t tell me you have been going into games and not being able to chase people or kill anyone because of gen speed. That’s a god damn lie. You don’t need that much time to kill all 4. It’s not fair to have someone sit on a gen for 5 hours while you’re out slaying people. It takes too long imo on most these maps because they’re either too small or gens are cramped together. survivors didn’t need that hard of a toolbox nerf. I was expecting maybe half the charges.... but 24... that’s just sad. As a killer you already get to chase people around and absorb points like crazy, it’s not really fair that killers have all that mobility or the ability to slay people after their first hook. There’s tons of issues I see with killers because of how fast someone can die. So why should they slow down gen speed without slowing killers down? It’s not fun for survivors at that point. Like I don’t want to sit on a generator for 5 hours (exaggerating) while I see teammate after teammate going down. I mean heck, the killer practically spawns on a survivor at the start of a match. You’re typically getting your first down before somebody even gets a gen done.

That kind of response was Definitely something A 12 year old would say. Nobody’s kicking and screaming here 😂 I’m simply submitting my opinion. And I know it’s the right one. They overnerfed toolboxes.

and I don’t think toolboxes are a crutch either. You obviously didn’t read the key words solo survivor or Gen camping. It’s too easy for killers and I’ll stand by that until I see some changes. You can’t convince me otherwise. Gens are too cramped and the killers r too fast. Why shouldn’t toolboxes remain the way they were in situations where they’re needed to get that last gen done? Don’t act like you’re having that hard of a time as killer. You just suck.

wasnt that always the case? the charge amount i mean