The perk grind is still unbearable

Yes, I do not support the new DLCs. It only add more grind to the game. DBD devs can work for free, if they like. the same goes for cosmetics. I wont buy cosmetics for characters I cant really play.

I actually think removing perk tiers would be a good idea. It sounds kind of crazy at first and people would be thinking "what about all the people who wasted BP leveling up their perks" (which is true, maybe they could find a way to compensate BP or something but I don't think that reason alone is a good enough reason to not do it) but if they did it this way then they wouldn't have to worry about having something that can increase with perk level being on every perk (so they could add a perk that just does something without tying an arbitrary extra number to it) and they will have a slightly (not much difference but it's still something) easier time balancing things because it's just one value rather than 3. And of course the obvious benefit is wayyy less grind.

It would also solve the problem of perks that are trash at level 1, and it would make the game slightly less confusing/daunting/grindy for noobs because then every perk would be consistent and they wouldn't have to worry about the level of the perk. Honestly if I was a noob right now I'd be so in over my head trying to figure out all these different perks and tiers and teachables and how I'm ever going to unlock them and get the ones I'm trying to go for without taking literally a million years. Removing perk tiers would help everyone a lot, not really much downside to it at all except for people having wasted BP on it in the past (which could probably be remedied somehow)

Sorry you feel that the completion doesn't end fast enough, but isn't that kind of the point? You're not really supposed to cap out every survivor, just the ones yu like to play, as they're all the same in terms of potential. Killers will still take ~9 bloodwebs to cap off if you've gotten everything else.

wow. I have only 800 and I got all the perks for both sides except the newest survivor. Are you using BBQ or WGLF? Sitting on any BPS, escape cakes, survivor puddings?

Most of my play time is probably killer so that might explain some of it. I got like 4 killers to P3 with one of them maxed out. 2 survivors at p3 with only 1 maxed.

At this point just max all perks on 1 survivor and 1 killer that is your favorite to try out different builds

Glad to see I'm not alone in this issue. Especially with DSlinger. I saved up roughly 999K BP for almost 2 weeks awaiting his release. Then once I got him I blew through all of it and my dailies and still only have maybe 2 or 3 tier 2 perks that I want on him and still hunting through the dogshit blood web. They should make the system start to eat away at red and purple items first and maybe let you get 3/4 of whatever perks are in the web. Or maybe not make me have to waste my precious points on 3 stupid ######### fog agents in a web branch to a perk I want. Like seriously who uses or cares about those these days?

the 4 perks per bloodweb change helped a TON, but it still doesnt address how expensive buying meta addons can be for killers (and i guess offerings for survivors)

Def a step in the right direction, but it can still be pretty daunting.

Yeah it can be a little overwhelming, but that's when you tell your newbie friends to not worry about perks so much, just work on X or Y character, either Meg, Claudette, or Nea; pretty much whichever you like the most. Save your iridescent shards for whatever character you like the most, don't worry about the Shrine of Secrets unless you like one of the base characters over anything.

The only one I would recommend to buy is Nancy/Steve/Demo. Nancy has one of the strongest perks in the game(Inner Strength), and Fixated can really give you a nice idea of what your scratch marks look like to the Killers, which gives you miles of information you can use.

The idea that people need to rush through things and get all the perks in as little time as possible is a fallacy that maybe only extreme veterans really promote, to the detriment of the entire community. It's why I'm always bothered by people who answer "how to counter X" questions with "just get X perk forehead" as if they can get something like that so easily. It doesn't answer the question, it simply dismisses a new player for not understanding how to play, which frustrates them because they're now being told they need to get 24 perks all from different characters and always have them equipped just in case they run into one of 19 Killers, each of which don't offer the same experience as the last.

The community isn't very new player friendly in that manner. And the game already has a bit of a learning cliff at multiple stages. The community tells all these new players they have to get a ton of perks, which overwhelms the players before they've even started.

The best thing this community can do is inform the players that they should work on the character they like the best, and when they've gotten comfortable with playing the game with the perk loadouts they can get on any base character--maybe promote one character to get teachable perks from, like Claudette's Self-Care/Empathy, or Meg's everything, but don't tell them they need to get Dwight's Bond, Meg's everything, Claudette's everything, Jake's Iron Will, Nea's Balanced Landing/Urban Evasion, Bill's everything, David's everything, you're just asking to overwhelm new players. Stick to one character and provide them with the knowledge of the base perks that everyone can get on default.

Something like "Hey you should get Spine Chill, Kindred, Plunderer's Instinct, We'll Make It, etc, and test them out, see which ones you like the most. Along with the unique perks on the character you play, you can really make something unique and fun for you. Try them out!" Let them figure out what they need afterwards on their own time. They have plenty of time to learn, and rather than overwhelming them and making them quit, it's better to let them figure what role they like to play the most before they start dropping money and heavy amounts of grinding into this game.

It's like when you start playing an MMO your friend has been begging you to join, and then all your friend does is tell you to grind so you can get to the "real" part of the game, the part they're on. You're not enjoying yourself the entire way up and you'll probably quit before you get even halfway there, claiming the game just isn't for you, when in reality it very much could be a game you'd be into, but your friend is just too excited to let you learn along the way.