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Rank 20

Raven9
Raven9 Member Posts: 298

I usually leave the killer afk, but I can't go down more than 16. I am sure they stated this update, but is there any really logical explanation? I can't rank 20, is there any really logical reason?

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  • SleepyWillo
    SleepyWillo Member Posts: 2,197

    This would be matchmaking working as it was intended (+/-6 ranks of your own).

    Deliberatley trying to go to rank 20 when youre capable of reaching rank 9, at the least, is a tad bit scummy...

  • toxcitynacl
    toxcitynacl Member Posts: 464

    You could say create a smurf and then say play the otherside you have no intention of playing just to earn BP. If you want to destroy some poor rank 20 killer as an example...start playing killer...earn BP...then start ranking up your smurf so you'll have some perks, add-ons and items and then you can just wreck some poor sap. Now the downside is as a survivor your team mates will be awful...so it will basically be a 1v1 game and if you get downed expect to be hard camped and no hope your survivor pals will come and save you. As killer, well you'll probably destroy them, but you'll eventually PIP on either side and you'll be back to rank 16...so not sure I see the point really.

  • Raven9
    Raven9 Member Posts: 298

    I'm already playing the killer for BP right now and I'm on my BP sets but be sure I don't enjoy it at all! Legion used to be like a time bomb. Now, every Legion-seeing survivor is making the tbag. Especially when we missed the feral frenzy, we swallowed the pill for 24 seconds! There is no build left that I haven't tried, Feral Frenzy is useless, because they are recovering immediately.

  • SleepyWillo
    SleepyWillo Member Posts: 2,197

    I typically rely on Feral Frenzy to find survivors - and "mending + healing = time not on gens". I never expect it to get a down...

  • Raven9
    Raven9 Member Posts: 298

    I thought that version 3.6.0 was overhauled again, but I realized that it was only for the newly released map. So none of the maps have changed and I'm leaving the killer afk again. The only reason I stay Afk is shard as usual.

  • Raven9
    Raven9 Member Posts: 298

    Of course I forgot to say... they recover because they spend very little time. They do this recovery with 3 people. Still it doesn't create pressure... genrush...genrush...and genrush...

  • ZoneDymo
    ZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946

    I mean, if rank 9 pairs you with rank 3's, then maybe rank 20 pairs you with rank 9, which is what they want

  • ZoneDymo
    ZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946

    sure but what does that matter if they never go for those higher ranks anyway, there is no need to be there, no more points or whatever.

    As soon as they stomped the babies and ranked back up to idk 9, they will just do a bunch of afk matches to rank back down again, those low ranks is all teh gameplay they want and will get anyway.

  • Clevite
    Clevite Member Posts: 4,335

    I guess that is the point. I just wouldn't want to play a game that was too ez. Surely that would get boring at some point.

  • BigBrainMegMain
    BigBrainMegMain Member Posts: 3,826

    I want to get to Rank 20 as well, maybe Rank 18, or 17.

    I don't know how to play Huntress and I've recently started. I don't know her ADS, I don't know anything about her.

    I'm surprised they haven't implemented a way to practice killer powers. I don't want to reach Red Ranks as killer and feel forced to stick to what I know just because I'll get my ass literally handed to me.

    And waiting months for Rank Reset to keep lowering me? No thanks.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,804

    You might want to play a different game if you're that bad and you refuse to try to get better

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 5,229
    edited March 2020

    I mean matchmaker and ranking are pretty busted and favor survivor, so I get the idea behind it but..... it doesn't do anything. He is still going to get those matches no matter what rank he is, the only difference is he will get a few more of the lower rank ones and just curb stomp them, which is just making the problem worse.

    So while I agree it's a toxic thing for OP to do, I don't agree with your ideology behind it. The matches should be fair for both sides in terms of experience and skill, unfortunately that is almost never the case in the current iteration of things.

  • Raven9
    Raven9 Member Posts: 298

    I was doing 4K every match with Legion, it was a baby business. I really enjoyed playing Nerf Legion M1... I've been stuck here since Ruin and Legion ate nerf! At least we used its power for the stack, and we can't do it anymore. Yes, you're right, I'm the one that plays badly because of restrictions and an unbalanced game.

  • Wylesong
    Wylesong Member Posts: 642

    Are you basing all gen repairs off this one video? One game where a gen is repaired in 27 seconds sounds like a fluke. I mean I have played both survivor and killer and I am shocked that happened. The time limit even with 2 survivors without toolboxes are 44.44 seconds. I can play almost any killer and even if everyone gets away I still had fun because I do not take anything to serious. That is where you lose the fun is when you take it to serious and freak out. I mean I seen a short video were 3 gens popped and I though boy that was fast but also a rare occasion. It also normally backfires when the survivors leave all but 3 gens that are so close together they can't finish. I love when that happens. lol

    I also personally hate de-ranking because as much fun as it might be you also get survivors that have no idea what they are doing so is it really that fun? I mean as a killer I like a challenge because at rank 15 and lower the survivors either just hide or flat out don't even use perks. It is way to easy then.

  • Wylesong
    Wylesong Member Posts: 642

    I think you are probably right about the kind of killer who also hits hooked survivors. That personally bothers me because I do not bully the killer or survivors so I feel like when a killer does that it is just rude. Also I do not understand why someone would want a always play a game knowing they can get a 4k win. It is just weird. If they want to play a easy mode game there is many other games.

  • DRAGOON
    DRAGOON Member Posts: 126

    It doesn't matter what rank killer you play, I've been seeing brown and yellow rank killers get red and purple ranks pretty consistently. But with the next mid-chapter I'm sure hiding the ranks will fix everything :)

  • Raven9
    Raven9 Member Posts: 298

    Be sure I would like to take it as a video, but unfortunately I do not have this possibility because of my system. My fps is bad in this game. But be sure, as soon as the game starts, I haven't even figured out what's going on after 15-20 seconds. But I can say that I have encountered a solid swf, these are genrush boosted swf. You see that they use 2 offering to get together and start the farthest away. I couldn't even count how many seconds a generator was finished

  • toxcitynacl
    toxcitynacl Member Posts: 464

    Yeah when a killer hits me on the hook...a Xbox comm ban for me soon follows typically.

  • Wylesong
    Wylesong Member Posts: 642

    I guess I do not have that issue because currently what I play on that has not happened. I am not happy with SWF and feel bad for any killer that has to deal with it. I do agree though it probably doesn't happen as often as people say or think but the fact is it does happen. The issue is if they try to let's say extend gen times then solo que will either die. I already have issues where my teammates either don't use perks or just hide the entire game and I have to do 3 or 4 gens solo. I agree they need to somehow combat SWF but its almost impossible sadly and it ruins the game for solo que players. =(

  • Wylesong
    Wylesong Member Posts: 642

    I do not blame you. I do not mind losing a game at all but please just respect each other. I actually hate when I play survivor and my teammates T-bag. Just take the win and be happy. =)

  • shalo
    shalo Member Posts: 1,530

    And yet, under your matchmaking system, those new to the game killers will be matched with, and bullied by, survivors 10/15 ranks above them.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    you do know AFKing is a bannable offense, right?

  • toxcitynacl
    toxcitynacl Member Posts: 464

    Not every swf is Seal Team Six. Played three hours last night as a swf. Started with me as a 4/5 and another as a 4/5 (no mic), a rank 8 and rank 9. Later again me as a 4/5, the no mic girl as a 4/5 and a rank 16. So I must have played some 12 games or so and after all that I ended up earning a single PIP overall.

  • Raven9
    Raven9 Member Posts: 298

    All murderers are now using this method. You are free to complain.

  • Wylesong
    Wylesong Member Posts: 642

    I am on a weird fence with talking on mics. I agree not everybody on comms is out to destroy the killer but I can understand why killers dislike it. It is a gray area. I understand wanting to play with friends but then being able to give ideas and moves 3 steps ahead can be a bit tough to deal with. I say just play anyway you want but do not be surprised if you get some mad people. I sadly see a TON of toxic players and I play on the dang switch. I have over 1000k hours and am still shocked when I see toxic players.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    i dont remember when i saw an AFK killer the last time.

    i myself play killer daily and i never AFK.

    i think AFKing just to get easy games is quite despicable, honestly.


    anyway, if you happen to get banned at some point in time (considering the survivors did report you - which they should have), you know where its comming from.

  • toxcitynacl
    toxcitynacl Member Posts: 464

    I wouldn't mind destroying a killer by being on a Seal Team Six, but first I am decent but I am not exactly the type a Team Seal Six would want and second those who I do play with on mic are no better (and perhaps even a bit worse somedays) than I am. But to those sweaty try hard rank 1 survivors on comms and who can loop a killer for twenty minutes, safely unhook a survivor even if the killer is almost touching them, and flashlight blind killers all game long...well played, but unfortunately that's not me.

  • leyzyman
    leyzyman Member Posts: 355

    I wish I could say it is, but it isnt.

    I took a break for a few weeks and came back after rank reset. As a rank 17 killer, I'm still facing red ranked survivors.

    Shows how good it is at stopping new players from going against experienced players.

  • toxcitynacl
    toxcitynacl Member Posts: 464

    It is possible. If say it was a red rank with say a rank 16 survivor you might get paired with a rank 4 say. Saw a few of those in my swfs last night.

  • Wylesong
    Wylesong Member Posts: 642

    I actually like watching those try hards play a game because it is kind of impressive BUT I do dislike how it makes the killers feel. I am confused now though are you saying you wish you were one of those teams that kind of slightly abuse SWF to the point of being toxic and making people quit the game? I know your name has Toxic in it so I won't be shocked if you say yes. lol =) I just want everyone to have fun. I know that sounds cheesy but I guess that is because I am not toxic and like to see people happy.

  • just_a_noob
    just_a_noob Member Posts: 247
    edited March 2020

    hate to break it to you but de-ranking further than rank 16 won't change the broken match making. i'm in red ranks (survivor) and still get rank 20 killers, sometimes rank 17 killers.


  • just_a_noob
    just_a_noob Member Posts: 247
    edited March 2020

    if its to stop bullying and to stop higher ranks playing against lower ranks then why do red ranks still get matched up with lower rank killers. It's not just a one off thing, it's been happening a lot recently.

  • Raven9
    Raven9 Member Posts: 298

    There is nothing we can do about this. Ruin was the only advantage that would create pressure and save time, the game breaks as soon as it starts, it breaks after 3 minutes or it breaks after 5 minutes. Unfortunately, the only advantage that really tries to balance the game is gone. Some leave the killer afk, some take a break from the game, some leave the game completely. @Mister_xD Yes, we are guilty of being afk because of the limitations of this game and the game imbalance. The size of the map, great safe places, old maps do not have breakable walls yet, the pallet amounts are the same.

    As Survivor, it is incredibly easy to throw 5 gene chases to a killer.

    You can see what he did after throwing 5 gen chases to the killer. Legion is already dead, whatever I say is empty, so imbalance is not our fault. Everyone unlocked genrush and now they are playing more toxic. No pressure. Because our last advantage for printing is gone. Now there is no point in keeping it in the game because they do not leave the generators they make. I will not keep this too long. @Peanits I hope you are making changes worth updating version 3.7.0...

  • ZoneDymo
    ZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946

    I mean, im with ya, but the amount of players who will just take every single advantage they can have to skew the challenge as much in their favor as possible is just starteling tbh.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    you know how you can fix that?

    getting better at the game.


    you know what wont help you?

    immediately giving up and just trying to slaugther players who have no idea how the game works just to have an easy time. if you dont step up to the challenge, there is no way you're gonna beat it.


    you do not need old Ruin to win (not at all) and you should never ever get run around by the same guy for 5 gens.

    seriously, when you've been chasing this dude for a couple seconds and just couldnt get a hit on him, leave him and search for someone else!

    High rank chases take aroun (if even) 30 seconds. anything more than that without a result for the killer (= hit / down) will result in the killer giving up on it and rather go and chase down an easier target.

    you should generally be switching targets a lot. that way you force the player outside the chase to heal, so he'll be one additional person off of gens - this works especially well on killers like the Wraith who can ambush survivors easily and punish those who didnt heal.


    or instead of learning anything like that, you could also go and kill some baby survivors, ruin their experience of the game and probaply get banned for AFKing at some point.

    thats up to you.

  • Raven9
    Raven9 Member Posts: 298
    edited March 2020

    I have been playing this game since 2017 and I have never seen anyone banned because of afk. Even without Ruin, I was still one of the killers who could do 4k, yes. I was winning so many matches that I now decided to buy other hex totems and yes I was doing 4k again, now Legion ate nerf again and officially took my desire to win. But sometimes every killer has a lucky day. I can't say anything about this subject.

    This is just lucky days.

    However, this is not enough to put pressure on the survivors. There are people who especially love to hang out with injuries. Of course, I know that it is empty to discuss this right now because there is still no change in the maps. Especially Legion, it needs change, even a new power. Of course, as I said, it's still too early for all of this to happen. Still, I don't think staying in afk will result in a ban, because BHVR knows this. I saw how many people were going to report me, but I didn't really mind this situation and I was still not banned. Because BHVR already knows that the killers have been afk since 3.5.0. So it is completely empty for you to warn or say me.

  • Deagle0105
    Deagle0105 Member Posts: 44

    and uprank only to have a hard time playing matches that you got genrush and tbagging,god looping and let those people destroy the fun for you?no thanks,we all play games for fun,not for stress

  • Deagle0105
    Deagle0105 Member Posts: 44

    no matter how good are you in this game,the survivor side is already easier to play and that why the game is unbalanced,playing killer is much more harder and sometime impossible to kill just one person

  • Demonl3y
    Demonl3y Member Posts: 1,416

    Its definility harder but not impossible. Also if you would want to play for fun, you wouldnt mind if you lose.