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Even otz...
So, this should he a twitch clip of otz ragequitting because he was robbed of 2 things.
1. Being able to stalk for about 5 seconds
2. When the stalk finally went off, the game made him stop for a second, causing him to miss
I'm not here to say that "survivors OP PlZ nErF", but when otz, a DBD player that most people look up to, rage quits and then stops his stream from the bugs and glitches, you know that enough is enough.
Please BHVR, fix the damn glitches that have been in the game for months now. On both sides.
Incase you cant see the video:
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Dedicated servers are the devil. Otz is such a chill dude, if he's going mad...
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Ggez baby killer :D
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Seems like the Meg didn't have a great connection. When he lunges at her, she ends up moving just as fast as he does and when she vaults the window you see her reappear for a split second. At the beginning she also takes off pretty fast randomly from the car to the street.
Not saying this game isn't buggy and that the stalk issue on dedicated isn't a problem but this seems more an issue with that Meg.
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We know its broken. Nothing new about it.
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You're right, she didn't have the best connection, however this is most definitely a bug and not an issue with the Meg. It looked like she had Sprint Burst in the beginning of the clip. The issue started out just on Ghostface, however has since made its way to every killer. Two major bugs in one clip that have persisted for months now, it's ridiculous how neither are fixed.
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I was there.
Stalking has been broken for a long time but that broken? Holy #########!
And then was the problem of the first lunge being bugged, he said it several times before.
Yeah i felt bad for him.... Poor otz
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Well, if there's one thing I have to commend him on is knowing when to stop before frustration gets the best of him. More people need to learn how to do that.
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Thats not lag. it seems to happen on some killers more than others, but for some reason sometimes your first lunge of the game is just super short. It happens to me a lot when i play legion or spirit, and sometimes when i play doctor. What's worse is on legion its not just your first lunge but your first normal lunge and your first frenzy lunge are super short.
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First a reminder:
Lets not forget that the Devs lied about this last "test" of Dedicated Servers, they just released them with this broken state. (Or anything else to say here @Peanits ?)
To the video:
Yep, this is Dedicated Servers for you. Horrible experience, for both sides. Are there any issues fixed with those Servers? I mean, I have awesome Ping all the time, but when either the Survivor or the Killer does not have good Ping, I dont get anything out of it.
Lagswitching Killers? Can still be done.
DC-Penalty? Yeah, can only exist with Dedicated Servers (as far as I know), but it is so broken. I am quite fortunate to not get hit that hard by the Penalty, but I also had to DC two times because of gamebreaking Bugs (one time I got stuck somewhere and one time I hooked a Survivor as Nurse, they glitched out and I was unable to blink...).
But we have a bunch of new Issues, like really strange Hit Connections because of Ping/Latency which cannot even be seen by the Indicator (and the Devs thinking that 150 Ping is good Ping), several Bugs, Killers like Huntress an absolute Pain to play against and also to play as...
So yeah, BHVR, PLEASE stop lying to us and end this "test" of Dedicated Servers. They are NOT ready yet, give it a few months before testing them. If anything will kill this game, it is those Servers.
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I started to play multiple games recently and God, how bugfree other games are compared to dbd, it's a blessing. I always thought like "ok, they need time to fix bugs etc." But somehow any other game I play, bugs are barely noticeable and the games overall are more enjoyable than dbd.
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I heard about Civilization is a good game. Probably should try.
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Weird how the Devs mindset is "play a different game if you get frustrated". At that point you're not recommending your own product.
I work as a sales assistant and I also don't go along and say "if you're not happy with our products, go to our competition."
It seems very counterproductive to say that.
For a change, they could focus on what the community wants and like I said, dbd is pretty much the only game inside the pool of games I play which has some serious design problems.
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I read before I saw the video and I KNEW it was Myers related. Can't stalk out in the open but you can stalk through corn/swamp/trees/holes in shack?
Missing lunges dude to dedicated servers?
Being Tier 3 but still having Tier 1 lunge range?
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Heck should see the western comic industry. They been insulting their fans for years, raising prices in return for lower quality art and stories, have had creators legit tell people not to buy their products, if they do not fully agree 100% with their politics or ideology. Even stopping people from putting out their comics into shops, Mark Waid. That and being so hostile towards anyone who wants to buy comics. They been killing their own industry. For they just seem to love to attack attack attack, for no real reason. They will just make a comment and just say they hate you. You done nothing to them but they hate you down to your very bones.
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Devs are waiting for us to adapt.. :D
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Sorry but why is him rage quitting more acceptable than someone else? So what if he is a streamer. Those survivors have queued up for however long and he has had a tantrum because a hit didn't land????
It just makes me feel embarrassed for him. I missed a hit, that's not fair. I'm leaving.
Really childish behaviour.
I am sure everyone who fawns all over him will come to his defence here but how can you defend that behaviour? If he wasn't a streamer or if he was a small time streamer you would all be laughing and calling the killer pathetic for disconnecting.
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From the way i read the original post. It was not about rage quitting but the main focus was about the bugs with in the game. Since the original post at the very end, did ask the devs to fix month old bugs.
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Even so, everyone is very much "oh well he is such a chill guy things must be bad" he clearly isn't a laid back guy in the slightest. He rage quit because a swing didn't connect. Does he rage quit when a hit that shouldn't connect does connect? I am going to assume no, but when it doesn't go in his favour it is game over for the other 4 people.
Everyone knows there are bugs. Everyone knows there are bullshit hits(The Huntress is constant bullshit hits)
He gets paid to play. Just get on with it and stop being a baby.
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No, at that point, they're saying, "this game is frustrating by nature. Its 1v4 and not perfectly balanced. If you cant handle that, play something else INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING AND BERATING US OVER WHAT THE GAME IS."
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You do know you are judging a man over something as far as we are aware he only did once. You are making him out to be a bad person due to raging quit once and due to him getting paid for playing a video game. Which again you are ignoring the main point of the thread, just to bash on a person you seem to want to hate while ignoring bugs. Bugs should be fixed, not ignore. People being to forgiving when it comes to video games is how we ended with loot boxes, poorly done abused dlc like horse armor and whatever else the gaming industry comes up with to screw over the gamer and their wallet.
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I'm not judging him as a bad person. I'm saying why is everyone so complimentary of him rage quitting when smaller streamers or people who don't stream would be berated for that behaviour.
"Haha baby killer DC because he missed" etc in post game chat but this guy does it and it becomes a forum post about how the game is broken and needs to be fixed because even someone who is paid to play quits games early.
If he did it over that one missed hit at the start of tier 3, he has done it before and will do it again. Let's face it.
I've had youtubers/streamers who are well known in my games and they have disconnected when the games don't go their way too. They aren't immune to rage quitting and I dont expect them to be but I dont understand their fans fawning over them to tell them it is OK to do it because they have a content channel but anyone else is a sore loser for doing it.
The bugs are just part of it, can't handle it then don't play. Why should 4 other people have their game ruined because someone can't cope with the bugs? When they knew before going in that round that the game has issues. As I said if the issue was favouring him, he would be all for it because it resulted in a miss, I'm quitting and cancelling the game for those 4 people.
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Have you ever heard of a game called rome total war 2? You want to know how buggy of a mess that was upon release. The ai lack a brain, even for total war standards. It was a broken steaming mess of a game. If people didn't bring up the issues, it would of never been fixed. It took awhile, many patches and bug fixes later. It was finally made into a decent game. With one of the things it fixed, was the ai. Making it far better than it was upon release.
Yet if people take your idea of just shut up and accept it. Rome total war 2 would of remain the buggy broken mess it was upon release and nothing would of been fixed. Things get fixed by people bringing up the issue and showing yes this is indeed a issue that happens. Not by sweeping it over a rag and than trying to shift the focus onto someone character, rather than the main issues of the bugs.
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As I said if the issue was favouring him, he would be all for it
What are you basing this on? Why would you assume that he wouldn't also be upset at the state of the game if a big bug favored him instead?
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Show me a video of him disconnecting from a round and ending his stream when a bug/glitch has gone in his favour then we can start criticising my assumption. We have a video of him leaving when it doesn't go his way right here.
@Ghostwithaface You're missing the point here. There is no "shut up" about the bugs there is a "you know what state the game is in going in to the round, don't ruin the game for 4 other people when something happens and it doesn't go your way."
Of course bugs need to be fixed but anyone having a tantrum and disconnecting over something not going their way is not going to fix the bug is it? No, it just embarrasses the people who do it, except in this case he has a fanbase who will say he is amazing for doing it even though it was extremely childish.
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What you fail to understand is that this guy you are bashing never did rage quit( or even if he did before it was a very rare), to promote a sportsmanship behaviour to his fans. He might have rage quitted more often when he was not on stream but at least he tried to promote a sportsmanship behaviour( while on stream), but this time he had enough. The difference between unknown streamers or regular players is the uncertainty that they are regular DCers or not. Otz is known to be a streamer that doesn't DC so when he does then you know ######### hit the fan.
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They don't care. As long as they are able to make a quick buck of new players who are not aware of the state of this game, they can just pump the store full of cosmetics and new content
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It doesn't matter whether they are well known or not. He just quit out of a game ruining the game for 4 other people and you're falling over yourself to make up an excuse as to why it is OK for him to do it but not OK for others to do it.
What you fail to understand is that disconnecting in a tantrum is childish behaviour no matter who has done it. No matter how many people are watching or how many people have paid a subscription to them. Don't come on here posting about how amazing he is when he does crap like that.
Like I said I fully expected people to rush here to defend his honour. There is no defence, he missed a hit, cried and disconnected.
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I think every time I've kobed it's been robbed from me. I'll land and start a sprint, then the animation will freeze on a frame for about a quarter of a second before continuing. I missed my pallet vault because of that, I may have lived.
And just the other night I popped out of a locker to not get grabbed, I'm at the very end of my animation(both feet on the ground, my character already turning), and the killer somehow grabbed me as if I were mid leap.
Killers are seeing the bullshit as well. They see their hits landing a mile away but what are they supposed to do, let the survivor wiggle free or leave them slugged? That's not fun or fair for either side.
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He should have not DCed, this is correct. But this video shows how broken the Dedicated Servers are. This cannot be denied, the Lunge should have connected and there should be stalking possible before. If basic mechanics (hitting) or Killer Mechanics (stalking) dont work, something is clearly wrong with those Servers.
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I'm not saying it's ok to DC or that i approve his decision to DC. What i said is that i understand why he did it. Also sometimes tantrums like his might draw devs attention and actually do something about those bugs. Sometimes tantrums like this one might be a necessary evil, that might change the speed of bug fixes on killer side. Kind of like devs advertised ruin nerf, they said it is a necessary change to get a real feel of game pace and balance accordingly (well the second part is yet to come). His behaviour is not acceptable, but understandable.
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Never once claimed to be perfect in any of these posts so I am confused as to where you have got that from. I guess it is just your knee jerk reaction to protect his honour because you watch him sometimes. He didn't need to quit. He could easily have just let go of the mouse. Said he is going to end the stream there and left the game to run and not do anything. Instead what happened was a tantrum and a game ruined for multiple people because he took one swing that missed and he couldn't handle it.
I haven't said he is a terrible human being. I have said why is it that people are so quick to jump to his defence when if it had been a small streamer or someone who didn't stream you would all be shitting on them?
It is very childish behaviour to ruin a game for 4 other people just because something didn't go your way. The fact you are defending it as if it isn't childish behaviour only further proves my point how you are saying it is fine for him to do it but not others.
So now he has done that live on stream as "The best killer to play the game" as some of you people claim, is it OK for everyone to do it? No, of course not, you'd leap on anyone who disconnected no matter what in-game reason they had. He isn't special because he streams a ######### game. So stop acting like this behaviour is fine because he streams a game. It isn't fine. It is childish and just one of the many issues that this game has with the toxic members of the community.
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This is a little besides the point and no hate towards Otz.
But when did he become the inofficial spokesperson of the community?
it feels like he just materialized on the subreddit about 8 months ago and now his word is law.
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See, again you're saying it is OK for him to do stand the situations in which you seem it is OK to leave. He encountered a bug and so it is fine for him to do it. He has been affected on an emotional level..... think about that, an emotional level...... if you can get to being tilted at an emotional level from playing a game then you need to play something else. Take a month off from it and see if you can be more relaxed about the fact it is a game when you come back.
You saying you would DC under those circumstances is again,saying yes because I watch him I think it is perfectly acceptable to DC and your opinion is 100% valid.
I call bullshit on you never slating a killer who has disconnected for the simple fact you are leaping on me for even daring to suggest your precious streamer is in the wrong for the way in which he behaved. It is ######### behaviour, don't try and dress it up as being OK. It isn't. It is #########.
I don't really care what you would or wouldn't do, you just seem desperate to try and get in to an argument because someone you're a fan of has acted like a prick and you want to defend it.
I would call anyone a child for acting in that manner for missing a hit. As I have said previously in this thread there is no evidence when the bugs/glitches favour him that he disconnects. I don't care how many fans he has or anything, anyone who does that is a child and someone like him who does get a lot of viewers is only highlighting just how childish the community can be.
Even the subject of the thread "Even Otz" like he is the standard that all of us should be held up to is stupid beyond belief.
He didn't ask the survivors if they wanted to finish their round whilst he went afk though did he? He just rage quit and went. You're putting words in their mouths regarding how they wouldn't want to be in a room where the killer wasn't playing because you wouldn't want to be but then saying I'm not allowed to assume what people would want. See the problem there? Your opinion isn't worth more than mine just because you think it is. Just because you watch someone doesn't mean you know how they are feeling or what kind of person they are. Stop blindly defending someone you don't even know, especially when they act like Grade A prick for missing a single hit.
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He rage quit the game because his killers powers refused to work ontop of the failed lunge?... You do realize Myers not being able to stalk is the equivalent of a huntress not being able to throw hatchets, a spirit not being able to phase walk or a trapper not being able to put down traps?
The missed lunge was the icing on the cake.
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I've definitely had this myself but it happened so infrequently that I questioned if I was just imagining it until I saw people here mention it.
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Show me a video of him disconnecting from a round and ending his stream when a bug/glitch has gone in his favour then we can start criticising my assumption.
No. The burden of proof is not on me. You show me that your assumption has merit.
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He briefly could not stalk. Then he could stalk and he tiered up to 3. It was his missed swing in tier 3 that made him quit. Nothing else. If the stalking had been an issue for those 3 seconds when he couldn't stalk he would have disconnected then, it is when he misses the hit that he decides he has had enough so the game is over for everyone.
Thanks for queuing survivors but I'm having a tantrum now so your game is over.
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So from that I take that you wouldn't be able to find one and so your attempt at dismissing my assumption has failed.
Thanks for the attempt at getting involved. I'm sure he will be very happy you tried to defend him.
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This is why i don't play Myers anymore unfortunately.
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I didn't even bother trying because what you are doing is a logical fallacy. :P
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Lol ok , so he ragequits cause of that? xD
That's kinda sad. I had it happen in multiple games (both with myers and ghostface) but I still played. Kinda sad that a big bad streamer number one killer or whatever is such a baby. Boohoo. Just shows that he is nothing special.
Also , that's why I stopped playing Myers or Ghost. Their stalking is broken for a long time now.
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You didn't try because there won't be a video of him landing a BS hit on a survivor where he says "Oh that hit shouldn't have landed, I'm going to disconnect on their behalf and end my stream because that way it might get the devs to take notice and do something about the issues" he would just pick them up and throw them on a hook. Yet if the survivor disconnected after he landed a BS hit, I'm sure all the viewers would be VERY quick to stick the boot in.
Your pathetic attempt at defending childish behaviour failed.
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I didn't try because the burden of proof is on you. :P
Also, who said I am supporting his behavior?
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Oh was that the first swing of the game glitch? The work around is to do a lunge right at the beginning of the game as you spawn, but it shouldn't be necessary.
I love Otz though and see frequent bugs that seem to force him to DC.
He was well justified in DCing here; the game literally was being unplayable for him as a result of the servers which the (incompetent, there, I said it) devs keep forcing on us despite the fact they know they're not functioning correctly.
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I can't speak for others, but I have been pointing out that DCing in specific situations is perfectly fair and to lock people out with penalties while the game doesn't even ######### work was always going to be a bad move.
I basically quit the game for the most part this past month, apart from trying to do a few challenges the other day, and these bugs crossed with DC penalties are a big reason for it. The game is in such a bad position right now. And the irony is that during that day I had a game breaking bug that forced me to DC and came across a couple of games where they happened too, specifically that one where you get hooked but the animation doesn't finish and either you or the killer has to DC before the game will end. lol.
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Lol, why are you assuming that I support him DCing? You can't prove that he will be in favor of a bug that supports him. That's all I care about.
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He'll say it's BS, sure, but 9 times out of 10 a bunch of BS has happened on the killer's end leading up to that BS hit, so of course he's not going to then leave them be. But that doesn't mean they're not justified in killing themself on hook or DCing themselves, IMO. if the game isn't functioning correctly on a specific server, you shouldn't be forced to suck it up or get punished; you are supposed to be playing for fun.
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Nothing says fun like queuing up for 20mins for a killer to miss one hit and close the game down.
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One thing people don't realize is that most of rage quits are not because of entitlement but because of massive dogshit, bugs and glitches. This game is a frustration by itself without even toxic opponents.
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In what world are survivor queues still 20 minutes?
A month or so ago they suddenly improved, (in Oce and EU) and last night they were almost instant, at an off peak time, in EU.
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