Newcomer. Just bought the game. Will I have fun?

Hello community. Newcomer here. Just bought dbd on steam, didn't have occasion to play it though . Wanna use the time steam gives so i could get a refund(just in case)

Watched a lot of gameplays, and the game is looks like a lot of fun, but I'm little anxious about community (heard its pretty toxic).

What about game balance? Heard some killers have issues with this.

How's the game on higher tiers, because I've read it's only good in lower tiers, the higher tiers are unfun and hard - I would like to know your opinion.

What about grinding? I wouldn't like to grind 24/7 and waste a lot of time playing. Is playing casually few games a day ok to get mediocre at the game, and have fun at the same time?

Are hatches in the same places every time on maps, or are they spawning randomly like generators?

What advices can you give me as total newcomer both for killers and survivors?


Thx and cheers

Answers

  • dannyfrog87
    dannyfrog87 Member Posts: 568
    edited April 2020

    toxic yes. killer underpowered nerfed was strong now butchered. freddy strong apparently. i havent touched the game in a good while. i no longer play killer due to frustrations and the lack of imbalance. do yourself a favour. refund. thats my opinion. try but dont let yourself go over 2 hours. the game just gets or becomes stale. as survivor look around you at all times listen for the terror radius but also beware of no terror radius due to the perk monitor and abuse .... killer try to get a hit as soon as you can but if your being looped constantly round a shack or pallet leave go find another target .... no hatches are rng. billy would be your go too for a bp farming machine. but be prepared for swfs on coms thats what breaks the balance plus all the perks giving so much information. being new expect to be gen rushed up the wazoo. if you have no experience at all. i used to play dbd for dailys as killer. i dont even do that any more .... says it all lol. killer is NOT the power role. survivor is. you will see in time

  • BlueFirebilly
    BlueFirebilly Member Posts: 257

    If your going to start, start with survivor, preferably with other people. You also know already that this community is highly toxic and the game is not friendly to new comers, they have made changes to make it better but you will experience lots of toxicity and hate. Have fun!

  • YaiPa
    YaiPa Member Posts: 1,929

    this community is very toxic and the debates are often pretty heated.

    at the state this game is, I'm not sure how much you're gonna enjoy it, sure the game is unbalanced, but for newcomers this wouldn't be a problem, since you would normally face newcomers too. One of the biggest issues the game is facing right now is matchmaking, you can easily be matched with people with thousands of hours, then you will most likely get bullied (it happens often, as I said, toxic community) and maybe demoralize.

  • HealsBadMan
    HealsBadMan Member Posts: 1,122

    To answer your questions:

    All game communities are toxic to an extent, but compared to OW or CS:GO this community is pretty tame.

    Balance is more or less ok, only one or two major things are arguably needing to be fixed, otherwise its character/perk specific.

    Rank really doesn't matter, since theres no reward (like in OW you'd get more comp points). Higher ranks means better players (obviously), but you'll see that the higher ranking you are, the more survivor-controlled the games tend to go. If you want to play Survivor, you'll have the most fun/success there. If you want to play Killer, youll need to get really good to keep up with coordinated solos, or worse, SWFs.

    There is a bit of grinding involved, as you spend Bloodpoints and the perks/addons you get in Bloodwebs are RNG (not to mention Teachable Perks), but overall if you're looking for fun you shouldn't have to grind too much. Theres extra BP too till April 15th, so take advantage of that, and the Tome Challenges will nab you more BP if you can do them. For beginners, completing the tutorials also gives a small amount of BP.

    Hatches spawn in pre-set locations on the maps at the start of the match (same with generators), but you can only see and interact with them once all the gens are done OR a certain number of gens are done when one or more Survivors are dead. Its meant as an alternate means of escape, so don't really rely on it at the start.

    For general tips, I'll give you this:

    1. Both Survivors and Killers should learn to mindgame- predict how the other guy will move and trick him. This could include line of sight, faking certain perks like Decisive Strike, etc. This comes with time and experience, but I highly recommend watching videos to see how experienced players do mindgames.
    2. Survivors work best as a team- learn the different roles of what to do (Gen Jockey, Medic, Chasing, etc.) so you can fill for what your teammates need.
    3. Killers all have wildly different powers, which affect how their playstyles are. You wouldn't play Spirit with a Hag mindset, nor a Pig with an Oni mentality. Try all the Killers out a few times, or at least the ones you're interested in, and once you find one you like learn the techinques and tricks you can pull off with their power.
  • Ghostwithaface
    Ghostwithaface Member Posts: 594

    From what i seen. Na most people you meet will be rather chill. At least from my experience playing on pc [in game that is]. Once here and there, you will come across someone who will be less than friendly. Yet that is the normal, whenever you gather a big enough following. Yet if you want to avoid it as much as possible, just group up with friends. Play a bit of survivor first, to get use to the maps and common loops you will find. It will help if you ever play killer. Which odds are in your first few games as survivor, you are not going to make it out alive. Don't worry it happens. Which if you are looking for more blood points, starting with David King might be a good idea. Since one of his perks is we're gonna live forever and you only need to get him to level 30 to unlock it for other survivors. Which rewards you more blood points, for taking protection hits or saving people off the hook.


    Which if you are going to play killer, leatherface dlc might be worth it for the perk bbq and chili. You get more blood points at the end of the game, each time you hook a survivor for the first time. Along with giving possible useful information to find out where other survivors are. Making it have uses for more than just blood points. Which as for killers, well depends on what you are interested in. Some are sneaky sneak like Ghostface, others can surf across the map like Billy.

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,793

    Honestly I'd say you should give it a go. The game is incredibly fun when you first start, it's tense, scary, and you don't have a clue what you're doing. As you rank up it becomes less of a horror and more of an action game, but its still fun nonetheless.

    I'd recommend trying to find some friends, also new, to play with. The game is so much better when played with people you can mess around with, because it just takes the stress off of playing.

    If you don't like it from the start, you have about 2 hours before you can no longer refund it.

    You'll never know if you don't try, though.

  • TheButcher
    TheButcher Member Posts: 871
    edited April 2020

    Try it and see how it goes

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    The gameplay is fun, as long as you don't expect things to be perfectly balanced. As the game currently stands, sometimes you will get screwed over by RNG, or matched with players who are way better than you are, and you need to be able to shake it off and not let it ruin your day.

    There are two main problems with high ranks: the first is that it's too easy to get there, especially for survivors, so there's a huge skill discrepancy that there shouldn't be. The second problem is that, as easy as it is to get there, a lot of people at high ranks are serious tryhards who leave no room for goofing off or having fun (which is fine, but not everyone enjoys playing like that, or playing with other people who play like that).

    The hatch spawns in a random location every time (a lot more random than the generators, incidentally).

    Beyond that, there are a few things you should be aware of as a new player:

    • The grind is indeed hefty. You need to be okay with using the resources you've got and not necessarily having access to the strongest builds right off the bat, because it will take you a long time to get ahold of all the meta perks, especially if you're only playing a couple of games a day.
    • The learning curve is steep, especially for survivors. It will probably take you a couple of hundred hours to become decent at the game. My brother has 250 hours, and I would say he has just reached acceptable (read: non-potato) levels of skill as a survivor, and is decent at some killers.
    • Start with whichever role you feel more comfortable with, but you should be aware that you will have a harder time starting off as survivor. All killers have higher kill rates at low ranks, because killers tend to dominate when neither the killer nor the survivors know what they're doing. So if you do choose to start with survivor, remember that it will feel really hard at first, but it only gets easier from there.

    As for tips, I would refer you to the Guides section here on the forums. There are guides there for new survivors, new killers, tips on how to play specific killers, and a lot more. You can also find a lot of new player tutorials on YouTube (though some, admittedly, are better than others).

  • kijugangster
    kijugangster Member Posts: 10

    Thanks for all the answers guys. You've answered my questions. I think I will give this game a try. Even if I will exceed 2 hours gametime to refund it, I don't think 6$ is a super wasted money :)

    Do you think getting any dlc is necessary(for perks or killers/survivors) or am I good to go with base game?

  • Deadman316
    Deadman316 Member Posts: 578

    If you can phase out the toxic people in this community, you'll enjoy it. The rest of us are pretty cool to talk to and run trials with.

  • Deadman316
    Deadman316 Member Posts: 578
    edited April 2020

    I use base game, though I did buy Halloween and the Clown/Kate pack (to have Kate) when they were on sale. I won't buy anymore Behavior created characters because they should be free IMO, but the licensed characters I'd consider. Ultimately, it depends on which perks you want to run. There's a Dead by Daylight wiki (type that in a search bar and it will come up) that's very descriptive with what each character perk does, check it out when you get a chance.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    DLC isn't necessary, though it will enhance the experience. Most of the DLC content you can get by grinding in-game anyway, the only exception being licensed characters. But there are no particular perks that are so powerful that you need them to do well, and three of what are generally considered to be the top 5-6 killers in the game are free with the base game (Nurse, Hillbilly and Huntress - although it's worth noting that Nurse in particular is not at all new player-friendly).

  • BigBrainMegMain
    BigBrainMegMain Member Posts: 3,826

    Get on the Discord, the Dead by Daylight one.

    Get into a Survive With Friends, there are many newcomers that want to play together.

    I highly advise that, it's better to learn together.

    Also, look up "How to Loop" in YouTube to learn the basics on how to, and WHEN to drop pallets, how to loop around the killer shacks, and tips and tricks for both survivor and killer to make it a bit easier for you. =]

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398

    Honestly this community is one of the most tame groups of people and everyone takes them way out of proportion. What this community defines as "toxic" is people clicking flashlights or t-bagging. Because God forbid a player repeatedly pushed a button in your face. The nerve of that guy, he's so toxic right?! How dare he?! As far as actual toxicity goes there isn't much but it still happens (offensive terms and slurs etc) it's WAYY better than League, DotA, CS etc.

    As for having fun? It depends. The first few hours of survivor are pretty fun since you're scared and nobody knows what they're doing, leading to more frantic games. Once you become experienced with the game you'll either love it or hate it and there's no in-between. I can't with good conscience recommend someone play this game unless they're willing to invest time and money into it (because the most important killer perks are locked behind paywalls, and actually grinding for teachables and perks has now reached a point of absurdity. The bloodrush that's going on right now helps with it a bit though)

  • SurviveByDaylight
    SurviveByDaylight Member Posts: 720

    Such a bad chunk of advice for this guy. Don’t listen to him. Both sides are extremely capable of being really good. You’ll have more fun on killer side as some of the killers can easily patrol the map due to insane speed and excessive melee range. Freddy is the best killer imo I will agree on that. Survivors are more frustrating because unless you’re playing with 3 other friends you’re communicating with you won’t have the information you need to avoid making certain mistakes that could cost you the game. I think killers are still OP although SOME things have been nerfed that they were using as a BIG. Time crutch like ruin. A bunch of whiny babies. They have ebony Mori’s how is that not OP? How are iridescents with infantry belt not OP? Get outtaaa here with your one sided commentary. Survivors don’t go in and survive every single game. More often than not they don’t make it out unless you’re playing poorly. Don’t chase too hard, protect your gens. Stop being a tunneling camping trash munchkin and you’ll get the results you want to see from playing killer 😊

  • PigMainClaudette
    PigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842

    The community CAN be toxic, but then again, any community can have it's toxic elements.

    I've certainly had some fun games, but there have also been miserable ones. Then again, you'll get that in any multiplayer game. It is largely dependent on the killer/survivor team, though.

    High tiers can be repetitive, if you let them. Mid-tiers are usually best since there is some room for error and fiddling around, but people have also generally established something of a playstyle.

    The grind is pretty real, but it's not WoW or Destiny levels. You can occasionally play and still get plenty of what you need, and there are perks to also help with that.

    Generators, totems and hatch are all semi-random. There are only a set number of spots that they can spawn.


    Good characters to pick up are 3 of the original ones: Dwight, Meg and Claudette. Dwight and Claudette are more of a priority, since Dwight had great teamwork perks, such as Prove Thyself (which also gets you more Bloodpoints) and Bond and Claudette has healing perks.

    David King from the (should still be) free DLC Lullaby for the Dark can also be helpful since he has a decent farming perk, and a decent Exhaustion perk.

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,793

    As others have said, no getting dlc isn't needed, and the maps that come with these are unlocked for everyone already. All you'd be missing is the killers and the survivor perks (since all survivors play the same). A lot of these you can grind for (for example, the iridescent shards you get from playing the game, you can spend on new, original characters) anyway, though when I say grind I mean GRIND.

    If you did want to buy some dlc, the first one I recommend is "A Spark of Madness". Recently the Doctor just got buffed and he's now pretty good and his power is new person friendly (to play, not to face, as it makes skillchecks harder). Feng Min is also very new person friendly- her three perks are amazing when you're new, particularly technician. I should note these two are one of those that you can grind for.

    Good luck, and I might see you out there in the fog.

  • OmegaXII
    OmegaXII Member Posts: 2,209

    Survivor gameplay: Holding M1 almost the whole game. Too boring to be fun. Also, camped to death is not fun too.

    Killer gameplay: Gens are done before you can do anything. Lots of toxic survivors out there to bully you (especially with this matchmaking).

  • Waterfall
    Waterfall Member Posts: 202

    I recommend a refund and to purchase a better more balanced game. The toxicity will tire you out and you will just stop playing just play a better game.

  • BlindMole
    BlindMole Member Posts: 649

    If you're starting and don't like grinds then you might not like it.

    If you play survivor it's kinda OK..... Ish. Chose David King, you will have dead hard and we're going to live forever, wich can give up to 100% more bloodpoints, and get other perks you want in the shrine. But survivor is still enjoyable without add ons or all perks.

    If you want to play killer thought... Forget it. Yes, you can get leather face and get barbecue and chilli wich can also grant you up to 100% more blood points, but so many killers, the add ons, the different perks to not only unlock but to find in the other killers bloodweb. It's just overwhelming!

  • Satelit
    Satelit Member Posts: 1,377

    Just wanted to say that if you plan on starting as survivor I heavily recommend buying the Halloween chapter for Laurie Strode.This is purely for her perk Decisive Strike,a lot of killers at low ranks tend to focus only 1 person and this perk will help a lot (as for her other perks Sole Survivor is really bad and Object of Obsession is inviting the killer to chase you all game,don't touch it)

  • toxicmegg
    toxicmegg Member Posts: 662

    after all the changes to the game, you will have fun as killer but not really as survivor.

  • gatsby
    gatsby Member Posts: 2,533

    The game is fun once you've played enough to understand it fully. You might get farmed as a new player, but once you kind get over the learning curve it's good.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    Decisive isn't likely to do a new player much good, though, considering most of them can't hit skill checks for love or money.

  • Satelit
    Satelit Member Posts: 1,377

    DS is not 100% new player friendly and will take few trials to hit.However it's better to practice now since rank 20 killers tunnel and won't slug for DS.You should have the skillcheck in all your games unlike high ranks where killers slug it out

  • Huff
    Huff Member Posts: 1,480

    Welcome.

    -Higher tiers are more "tryhard" or "sweaty" than lower tiers but it really depends on whether you like to try harder or just mess around and not take the game seriously.

    -The game isn't too balanced. Some days it will feel really imbalanced if you're frustrated but most games you have a chance at winning if you're good enough.

    -You don't need to grind a ton to get skilled at the game as long as you're dedicated, but the perks you need to unlock do require a bit of grind. I'm not pro or anything but I play anywhere from a bunch of games in a day, to maybe a few games every few days, and I still hold my own at decently high ranks.

    -Hatches can spawn practically anywhere in a map, except on higher elevations I believe (like 2nd stories of houses and whatnot). One exception being up on a hill that spawns in multiple maps.

    -For killer and survivor, I have common advice. Not too much specifically for either. Most important thing to remember in my opinion is to just treat it as a learning experience. I believe I have 1k hours and I still treat it like a learning experience, because there's always going to be new little tricks and techniques you can find out. Also, since you're just learning things, have fun with it. Not every game is going to be perfect and there's going to be toxic people that want to ruin your fun. Just don't let them.

    One more thing. If you don't feel like dealing with toxicity like I usually don't, then just do what I do and say GG if you want at the end game screen, and leave immediately. Hope you enjoy your time playing. :)

  • Dabihwow
    Dabihwow Member Posts: 3,409

    Just be prepared for some of the most toxic, ragest of BS stuff, and just have fun. Thats DBD for ya, also it repeats

  • hex_genrush
    hex_genrush Member Posts: 736

    Don’t play killer. Play survivor