Killer mains/people who play both sides whats your opinion on freddy?

I like playing as him, it gives some neat bloodpoints. Playing against him is pretty boring however. I don't mind the pallets, its fun to guess yet the pools kill me on the inside as its essentially Clown but worse.

The fact that he’s strong is not an issue. He’s just very boring to play as and against, he’s just a better Clown that can teleport.

He okay just don't see the point in oblivious. All you gotta do as freddy is smack the rescuer and poof no more borrow time for the hooked survivor.

I think he has a bit too much in his kit. He needs tuning down a little, not much but a little. He also shouldn’t counter BT, I’ll never understand why the devs gave him that.

Freddy was a mistake, The only fix to him is to delete him.

For me Freddy is boring to play as and against. Also I'm not really enjoying Dream world slide show with my ######### PC.

That's a failure on the design of borrowed time, it has nothing to do with Freddy. The problem is they tied borrowed time to terror radius, wraith and pig can get around it as well by concealing theirs.

I would argue Freddy is in fact exactly who I pull out when I check steam profiles or twitch and see the group I'm going against is an SWF with comms. Break out the red paint brush and swing chains or jump rope and a decent map offering and go to town. Usually Freddy's chase potential and map-wide pressure are enough to at least give me a draw at worst, if not win the game outright with a 3k or 4k depending on how generous I feel (assuming they weren't toxic).

As far as Freddy's overall strength, I play him at red ranks the most out of any of the "core four" meta killers (Nurse, Spirit, Hillbilly, and Freddy). Freddy in my opinion is the best of the four.

Nurse while having the highest potential is absolutely torturous to play as. Even if you master her high learning curve her quality of life is terrible. Playing stun simulator 5000 is just not enjoyable.

Spirit has the second best chase potential but falls short on overall map pressure, she also has more trouble using pop goes the weasel optimally as she needs her power for chasing and not just for map movement.

Hillbilly has the best overall map mobility and can utilize pop goes the weasel the second most optimally, only downside is he is still a regular loopable killer who needs time in a chase to setup his insta-down.

Freddy has all the strengths of these killers (incredible map mobility, ending chases quickly) while also having the best built in generator slowdown with his addons like swing chains and jump rope. His teleportation combined with BBQ allows him to see the priority generator instantly, teleport to it, and pop it within 5 seconds of hooking someone, that is insanely good generator regression. Freddy's snares make ending loops significantly faster, as well as providing information. His fake pallets are a gimmick, and usually only used when people wanna meme.

Boring but strong

See you claim you know how the perk works, and then continue to blame it on Freddy's kit, which is incorrect. The problem is borrowed time is attached to terror radius, of which Freddy has none in the dream world. So if the unhooking player is asleep no terror radius was read and borrowed time doesn't trigger. Same with wraith if he's cloaked.

My point was they need to fix the perk itself so it's not tied to terror radius.

Also this works against Freddy at times as well. In the dreamworld there is no terror radius, so someone with OOO can see me at literally all times. I ran into a group running four OOO just cause they wanted to meme and I didn't have unicorn block, so literally loops were impossible as they could wallhack me the whole time.

Honestly terror radius perks like BT and OOO need to be reworked to be hard distances of 32m (standard terror radius) so they work as intended at all times instead of being wonky on certain interactions.

Yes, exactly. When Freddy was first reworked the dream world didn’t give him Undetectable, and then the devs changed his kit so now he has it. Like I said.

Freddy is incredibly strong as a killer. But something about his play style and what he does makes me dislike playing AS him and AGAINST him.. I know they reworked him and he'll likely never get another re-work, but he's likely my least favorite killer even though he is one of the top killers ATM.

Personally I hate fake pallets. Unless you memorize every pallet location in the map they have no real counter except praying, especially since in the first chase you don't even know which power Freddy is using. That makes fake pallets very frustrating to face, but also too boring and braindead to use for me.

As for the rest of his kit, snares are a bit too spammable and his lunge animation is very misleading, but otherwise I find him ok.

I ######### love him. Second favorite Killer after Doctor.

He's fine. He has plenty of counters that survivors tend to ignore. There's a weird logic that people have towards waking up. "I'll be dead by 3 gens, but at least I didn't cross the map or fail a skill check to wake up. That would be inefficient." The biggest problem I have with him is how strong he can be relative to how low his skill ceiling is.

If you think about it, it kind of ironic considering prework freddy had wallhack. How the tables have turned.

I've been playing both sides since week 1 of this games release, in it's current state with sound bugs and game balance I do not think there is an op killer in the game, if those were fixed then I would change my mind, but with how fast gens go in rank 1 as long as I have a competent team with me you can curb stomp most killers. As for how he is to play as and against, I hate playing against him, the dream world is annoying and he has little to no counter play, and for playing as him, he is in my opinion very boring to play as, and I would take old freddy any day over him, old freddy was a challenge and was very fun to play.