I played 50 games of Legion with stats! (Long version)

As a legion main that has around 800 hours only on that character and the matches end roughly as yours end (generally 4ks)... This isnt me bragging about my games, this is just to say that my opinion doesnt come out of nowhere.

I, personally, think that legion isnt all that weak, but doesnt go above B tier either. Legion has many things that dont make sense and are loose ends from the 1st legion that we got. Ex: hitting someone with deep wounds does nothing but punishing you for hitting a survivor again.

My general opinion on legion is that the devs only have around 2 choices: either give legion a major quality of life update or completely rework them and get rid of deep wounds simply making their power to be good at chases.

Legion is very badly seen in the community and i completely understand and support it because after all, your chase pontential is just to m1 the survivor and there is no power usage to spice it up (nothing to master there, basically).

Also, i think that the devs picked the most boring part of this killer in the rework for both sides and that is to chain hits.

As much fun as it sounds on paper, the survivors need to mend (holding m1 for 12 seconds) and legion just runs knowing that they cant kill anyone in that state and will have a headache at the end. This isnt fun for both sides.

Loose ends from old legion that i can remember at the moment:

• Hitting someone in deep wounds does nothing. Why?
• Hitting someone out of frenzy drops the power by half. Why?

Things that make no sense to be in his power:

• Not being able to see blood pools. Why?
• Not being able to see deep wound timers. Why?
• Missing a hit ends the power AND drops the gauge. Why?
• The power can only be casted when its full and having a 20 seconds cooldown. Why?
• Hitting someone injured does nothing. Bad design, but justified (needs a rework).
• 70% of their add ons are bad/useless for their rarity
  • Franks mixtape: i made some testings and you need around 80 seconds to down someone with your power IF the survivor is right beside you and you can hit them right when the power comes again. Also, this add on promotes very negative gameplay.
  • Stab wounds study: As franks mixtape is useless, i consider this add on to be the worst add on in the entire game (even the ones that make your power worse are better because at least give you bonus bloodpoints). Deep wounds is not a threat since the update and isnt a 25 seconds timer instead of 30 that will even slightly change that.
  • Fuming mixtape is actually decent (unpopular opinion btw).
  • All cooldown add ons: the values are a joke. In my opinion, the fatigue duration with the 2 best cooldown add ons should be base. Need a rework if this change goeas through.
  • All add ons that increase the detection range: they make you go after someone you cant catch most of the time. They would be good if they would also increase the movement speed while in frenzy.
• The power has almost no utility besides hitting multiple survivors in close range and giving you a easier hit at chases if the survivor is healthy.
• There are many people that say that it also helps you on map travel and that is WRONG, it hurts you. Without add ons: in frenzy you walk 60.8 meters in 14 seconds (10 duration+4 fatigue) and out of frenzy you walk 64.4 meters in 14 seconds.
• Not being lethal and having the biggest fatigue/stun in the game.

Imo ignoring all survivors defenses is always a bad idea that leads to this, but the devs are fine with it so we can just slowly leave the game as ive been doing or accept it if you want.

Legion needs TONS of QoL updates and slight buffs but, preferably, they need a rework. Because it doesnt matter how many buffs this curret version of feral frenzy gets, the legion wont stop being an m1 killer in the end.

I am fine playing as the legion in a competitive way because i have lot of experience in the game and know how to play on tiles, but anyone that wants different gameplay will never choose a killer that has nothing to offer in a chase. At least, this is what a friend of mine told me after trying legion.

Again, this is not to brag, is just to tell my point of view with max clarity.

Thank you for coming to my TEDx talk.

The thing is, you can be ok or even good with every Killer and lose against good Survivor or you are either a God with only 3-4 Killers, win almost every match but therefore sacrifice variety.

It's all about experience. I started to play a lot of Oni because he seems to have great potential while also playing Huntress and Billy a lot.

I still play every Killer for variety but those 3 are my Main to go Killers where I want to get better, where I have like a "ok, I know I can win with this Killer" feeling.

Yeah, but how often do you get those Top Tier Survivors. I either lose when I get them and that's rare or when I played extremely bad and made many mistakes. But getting those top Survivors is pretty rare.

SWF is an exeption, because they can do poorly around loops, get downed within 10 seconds and still escape because they can coordinate on the gens because of comms.

But 4 man Top Solo Teams are the true "Ultra Rare" in this game.

Very cool, OP. While it's always difficult to draw conclusions from data from DBD because there are so many variables, one conclusion can be made: you're a badass Legion. What outfit do you wear? I use Susie's Christmas sweater

Ok... makes sense thanks for answering me

And by the way is Ruin good by itself or paired with Discordance?

RIP, me too... some perks are better off being T1

Or need to be worded better... lol

Ah, that's fine then. I thought you meant that in every match you lost, Ruin was destroyed early. That's my bad

Honestly, my experience with Legion mirrors this person's. I don't think it is because we are god tier legions either but rather that people underestimate the usefulness of interrupting every single survivor on gens using their power at least some of the time during the match and the ability to get the first health state of survivors for free. I just believe legion is good at setting up potential snowball with the injures and whether people heal from it or not just helps legion because most run Thana and Dying Light together. Unlike some of the other killers though, you have to be just as good at being a M1 killer for long enough to capitalize off of this.

Not going to lie though, I find legion boring because of how well I do with them and I start feeling like their power isn't flashy enough to retain my attention. Also, I would've never mentioned how I felt about legion's strength if it wasn't for this post because I understand just how much it seems you are swimming upriver with this topic.

1 use should be enough for you to snowball if you manage it right. Apples also exist and ironically I saw that survivors who cleanse have better chances at escaping than survivors who don't. I definitely see her much stronger than Legion.

While Cannibal is still not a very good killer even with this combo, I think he's better than Legion. Legion also needs the "right kind of survivors" in order for his power to work.