What's with the plague?
Seriously, why the hell did she get buffed? Not only is she overpowered as #########, but she's literally broken. She can get a whole team of survivors with no effort, and anybody can play her. You can't loop her, and she can basically insta down you if she finds you.
They need to do all of these or AT LEAST one:
Make it so she walks EXTREMELY SLOW when she's throwing up OR not move at all.
Get rid of the broken status. That's horridly broken, pun not intended.
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Just bring back the original, before the buff. She was fine before, I played her before, and she was as good as any killer. Now I won't even play her, because she's broken. Please tell me other people agree and understand my hatred towards her atm- I hate playing against her, it's not fun.
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Also, surprise- I'm not here JUST to complain! I actually gave solutions because this is god awful and playing against her is impossible //
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She allready moves slow when charging her vomit, and if she doesn't move at all how is she supossed to hit running survivors?
The broken status is to push survivors to cleanse, it's the survivors choice if they want to cleanse or not
Her original is the same as now, the only buff difference is that she starts with 1 pool of devotion
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The problem was against experienced survivors they wouldn't cleanse, making her a normal m1 killer in the chase.
Now she has one corrupt purge use against experienced survivors, making her powerful for 60 seconds.
She was never overpowered and has always been an average killer, even after recent changes.
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No, she can literally insta down. She just follows a survivor, constantly throws up on them, then hits them once they're injured.
And we can't cleanse, because then she can, again, insta down, because you legit can't loop her. Her vomit is too spiratic, unlike the huntress for example, with is loopable.
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God, I’m working on prestiging Plague now and the idea that she is OP is just laughable. Some of y’all should try playing these killers before making up opinions.
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I can play her. Anybody can play her. She is the singular killer I almost NEVER can win against because of how broken she is.
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I even liked playing her before the buff. It was fun.
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I am going to assume this is a troll post since you have a new account
If she keeps throwing up during a chase good, she is using her power, but she can only down you if she hits you, just loop like any other killer
Well that is your choice, you cleanse if you want to, you can allways try to cleanse the hardest fountain to reach to make it harder for her
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Excuse me, but... she is a M1 killer with everyone exposed, if they don't cleanse they are just one hit to be down, if they do you win the power. That's a win-win for me.
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Exactly.
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You can't loop her, she throws up around corners easily
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And why would I make a troll post with literal solutions? I'm not going "LOl PLAgue Broken xD newZErF!111!" am I?
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And I'm not saying break her either, I'm giving solutions that will make it fun for killers and survivors.
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You can loop her, objects in the map are your best friends. She's not OP but seems you need a little help with her. I am not an expert but let me help you in what I can
First, treat her like a huntress, the vomit might seems like it's nothing compared to a hatchet, but at diference from a hatchet, her vomit might come as a threat later.
Second, Try to find a way between obstacles, trees or walls are your best friends as well, then she will vomit those instead of you.
You can use the t walls with windows as well, if you see her charging her vomit, try to run into the wall instead to the window, in that way she will hit the walls instead of the windows.
Third, If you manage to loss her, don't run, walk instead, in that way your sickness won't grow (if you are in tier I, meaning not broken yet).
Fourth, if you manage to avoid her vomit in a long chase (because she's slower than you when holding her vomit and vomiting), it's probable that she would stop trying to vomit you and will hit you with the normal hit instead.
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And that's where the problem comes.
I've been able to loop killers for minutes while injured, and many other survivors can too. Yes they basically an M1 killer with everyone exposed, but survivors know what loops are good, aswell as when and when not to drop pallets.
Trust me, at rank 1 I never find a good Plague.
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The thing is that her range is FAR, and I already do loop her around trees and stuff. She can just turn the corner and charge the vomit before I can get away and get me anyways. The only big issue is it causing broken status. If they fix that, she'd be fun.
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I think you need to keep practicing that, I can do very well against plague and yes, I do get sick. You can do it!
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If you think she is to OP then I would hate to hear what you think about the Doctor. There is no one you can hate the Plaque without hating the Doctor too. I would rather go against a Plaque, a killer that you can hide from at least, then a Doctor who just zaps the area and POOF now we all give away our location and are to crazy to do anything. lol
Oh and now madness levels do not decrease like they use to so no point in getting out of his terror radius. Now he is a OP killer.
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This is ridiculous. There’s like a rotating cycle of mindless noob complaints about every killer. Just like the mindless noob killer complaints about survivors. Can we please somehow delete or mute these people because they don’t add anything good to the game.
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They're both pretty OP, but the doctor is okay. He's counter able. While I hate playing against him, that doesn't mean he's really THAT op. He has some things that make me go ugh, but not enough for me to complain about it like the plague. I prefer him over the plague anyday for sure imo, but I get you bro.
Also you can avoid the zappies by hiding in lockers if it comes to that
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I'm not a noob, I've played this game for over two years. I genuinely just can't stand the plague. So get off your high horse. You don't see me complaining about everyone, just the plague. She's near impossible and I hate it. I've seen some ridiculous complaints myself, but my compliant is far from ridiculous.
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It is absolutely ridiculous. She’s far from one of the best killers. She’s middle rank. Her power literally depends on survivors doing something to complete it. She can’t down you with puke unless you complete her power and even then her downing puke is only available for a limited time. Her puke doesn’t go through walls and you can still loop her by circling and ducking around vehicles. Your just not a good survivor. Your “suggestions” lock her into not having much of a power at all.
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Her power before was fine? I played her pre-buff. She was fine. Now she's overpowered. She can just chase you until you're broken and down you, then move on to the next by slugging/hooking. Even if we don't cleanse, she can easily slug and/or down someone in less than a minute. That's EXCLUDING her addons. And if we do cleanse, if she finds you, you're #########. I'm not a bad survivor by any means, I don't know why you have to be a dick about it.
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Well even if she get Corrupt Purge you can just loop and stun her and she loses it. It really is not that tough against her. I mean it can be but she certainly has more weak spots then say Doctor.
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They decrease now from madness 3 to 1 whereas before you could only decrease to madness 2. It also used to be a constant radius in treatment mode so he could walk around and it was a constant shock instead of a rechargeable power. There’s a whole thread about tips on what sound cues to listen to so you know when to go for a vault or drop pallets early etc... You guys really don’t know the killers very well which is why your dying against them or thinking their OP.
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Doctor isn't OP though lol, I legit said that, though clearly you didn't take the time to read that. I would play doctor 100 times over the plague. He's pretty easy if you know what you're doing, but I shouldn't have to say that since I just did, but you didn't feel the need to read it so I will repeat it:
I
have
no
problem
with
the
doctor.
Easy to read now?
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Exactly how do you counter the Doctor and please do not say the Perk "Calm Spirit". I mean there is so many buffs to the Doctor that he is the killer that scares me most. If using the right items not only can he pretty much keep you stunned but then he can track you with the hallucinations.
Now the Plaque who is my all time favorite killer is tough but not impossible. I can hide from her and yes she has distance but I would rather deal with the Plaque then the Huntress. The Plaque can be stunned out of Corrupt Purge so no instant down and now offense but if she chases you long enough to vomit on you that many times to get you to the point you are broken then you need to learn to escape. The only way she can really insta down you is with that Corrupt Purge and that is easy to avoid.
The Doctor on the other hand can now shock from a distance and also in a circle raising everyone's madness level you can no longer lower it. I use to try and sneak around him to let my madness go down so I could keep from screaming but that isn't even a option now. There is no real way to take away his power like you can with Corrupt Purge and a pallet stun.
Sorry not saying you are wrong but just saying my opinion is she is not that scary to me. Hope you and your family are staying safe and healthy by the way. =)
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I appreciate your.. concern. But no need :). Now if you want to comment on a thread, at least be nice about it? I wouldn't of been an ass had you not been. Some people commenting on this thread are genuinely nice about it. Why can't you be?
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Seriously. I'm down to listen to you guys, I really am, but only if you keep it civilized. Seriously. It's not that hard :l
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I mean to insta down she has to waste time constantly throwing up till she gets that down. I mean if she chased normally and just m1 hits she could get you about the same time most likely so that's a invalid argument.
Cleansing is after the chase or hook not during a chase so again you gave a invalid argument.
Plague is frankly mediocre at best. A tatic I suggest you do which I abuse a lot is take a hit for a teammate. When she goes for a hook to hopefully stall for a escape. Once you take the hit touch something to infect yourself and then cleanse for a easy heal to full. Just a free heal when injured.
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You can loop her only difference is 1 pool is corrupted. Her power can still be in control of Survivors beside before she could have just ran the add on that give her 1 corrupted fountain anyway.
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I still miss the old plague. Fun to play as and against. I do all of these things, it's either the plague slugs, camps, tunnels or my teammates farm. So maybe it's just my luck, but she seems op as of now.
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I get it. sucks being camped, tunneled, or slugged. But that can happen with any killer sadly. Plague herself is just not op. Just how killer players act is what more is a problem. But I main killer. I feel like camping, mass slugging, and tunneling happens because of just terrible balance by devs.
They need to just redo the goals of both sides is the issue. Killers shouldn't feel like they need 4k to win the game as survivors shouldn't feel about escaping. We need more ways to feel like we won on both sides instead of how it is now is the problem.
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I read this in the updates and just asking if they changed it since then'
With the release of the next chapter, a few existing Killers will be receiving some slight changes.
The Doctor
With the update The Doctor received in the last mid-chapter, there are now two ways to inflict Madness: Shock Therapy, and Static Blast. To make it clearer what is required to increase a Survivor’s Madness level, we are making the following changes:
- Madness no longer decays passively over time.
- Shock Therapy will add half of a Madness level to any Survivors hit.
- Static Blast will add a full Madness level to any Survivors hit.
It says here as one of the bullets that the madness no longer decays passively overtime. I would assume that means once you are in Madness 2 there is no chance of going down to one. I mean I do not know any other way to take it than that.
This update is newer then the update you showed me as well. the update you used is from January 6th. I am sure there is noises and things to listen for but he is still hard to deal with. I mean that reach of his is kind of far. I understand it use to be a constant radius but now that fact he can stun and the madness level will not decrease makes it tougher to deal with. Then to add that with every level you go up he can see your location with each madness level increase.
If you want here is the URL- https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/130537/developer-update-february-2020#latest
"The new ability replacing Static Field is called "Static Blast"; this is mapped to the Active Ability button. After charging the ability for a short duration, it releases a blast of static electricity throughout The Doctor’s entire Terror Radius. Any Survivors caught in the area of effect are shocked causing them to scream and acquire an amount of Madness. If their Madness level increases, they also reveal their location to The Doctor as usual. "
I also do not think any killer is OP but was just making a point to this person. I wanted to point out that if he has a problem with the Plaque then the Doctor must be a nightmare for him.
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Serious Question: Is there really any difference between Plague then and Plague now, other than the fact that she's guaranteed her blood puke at least once in a game even if the Survivors don't cleanse?
Doesn't this just made one of her add-ons base kit?
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Doctor imo should have one change that I would like to see be play tested. You should be able to get out of tier 2 of madness. I can see doctor mains say this would kill his power but let's think this through. Survivor can decide either stay in tier 2 or wait till more agonizing tier 3. This would also make the doctor have more pressure by a survivor waste time to get back to tier 1. I'm curious how this would change him for better or worse but we cant truley know until we experience it firsthand.
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I think the decay should be back because it kind of kills his power without it in a way. If you think about it every time a survivor reaches a new level the Doctor can see that survivors hallucination for a bit but if the survivor cannot go down anymore then they cannot go back up taking away that power. Am I wrong or just dumb? lol
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@swiftgiraffe808 Just was wondering if you read my reply and can maybe explain what they meant by it?
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That's why I suggested the ability to go down from tier 2 back to 1. It gives both sides a way to play it out imo. Killer gets more time wasted for survivors to go back a tier instead of gens. Survivors can either wait it out for gen work or go down a tier for fear of the tier 3 effects.
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Plague didn't give you broken status before
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Yes she did, one yellow addon that a lot of plagues ran anyway became base, and that's the only change.
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I don't think that's different from then and now. She always gave you Broken status. That's been a thing from day one, far as I know. You get green puked on and become Broken if you didn't cleanse.
Unless you're saying the blood puke inflicts Broken now?
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Exactly! I mean with this new madness now going down it just made me think oh well and now I do not care if I am in the terror radius or not. I will just do my gen and run. lol
I did have someone reply to me saying the madness level does decay but I think they were misunderstood and waiting for them to maybe explain to me and hope that I am wrong. He said this "They decrease now from madness 3 to 1 whereas before you could only decrease to madness 2." Unless I missed something the newest update said "Madness no longer decays passively over time.".
This is the newest update so not sure where this person got the news that we can lower our madness level but I would like to hear it if he did. The sad thing is like most people though when proved wrong they won't respond and he probably won't either now. =(
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Editing out double-post. Thought my first one got deleted.
New serious question: has this whole thread been bait or a severe misunderstanding of how the Plague actually works?
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I play plague often enough to know she isn't OP, she is very susceptible to gen rush and having corrupt purge isn't the guaranteed win people make it out to be.
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sorry I just didn’t see this until now and I was pissed at snow for whining and saying things that weren’t true.
My understanding was that even if madness doesn’t decrease passively, once the doctor shocks you into madness 3 you can snap out of it into madness 1. I’m fully with the other guy too though about bringing back the passive decrease of madness. It does help both sides and would make for a more balanced game. He’s a huge pain and I say people are terrible survivors cuz I’m right there with you. I’ve only started getting a little better with survivor lately after dumping a ton of bp into two survivors and trying to play them. The key with doctor is unfortunately he is insanely hard to shake so you have to be good at looping and if you are then you can keep him busy while the rest of the team does gens. You need to do things like drop pallets early and think about whether your in too vulnerable of a spot in terms of being trapped by windows or pallets. Also if you know the runs of maps well enough if you keep throwing pallets in front of him and getting speed bursts you can waste his time for a really long time. I’m really good with doctor but some survivors are good enough that I give up and chase someone else because they waste too much of my time. There’s a bunch of other threads here that give a far better explanation than I can of how to avoid and outrun the doctor. If you can time his shocks so they don’t block your vaults he doesn’t have anything on you other than exposing your location.
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I am sincerely sorry for being impatient. It is unlike me and I do feel bad. =(
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Your fine, I lost my cool so technically you wouldn’t have said that if I was more articulate and patient. I hope at least some of the things I said helped and they didn’t all sound angry or aggressive.
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Thanks for the tips and yeah I do not think he is OP but certainly is up there in my fear of killers. He is at this point one of the killers that even someone that is bad at playing killer will be good with. I liked him before the rework and constant updates and now he is scarier then that last two new killers that came out. lol
I do hope you are right that when you snap out of it you go to madness 1 but I do think it just takes you down to 2. I feel like when I snap out of it he can zap me once or twice and I am already INSANE IN THE MEMBRANE! lol
I do know in the update it says this, "One last thing we've addressed is the frustration of using Snap Out Of It to drop from Madness level III to Madness level II. After the update, missing a skill check during Snap Out Of It will cost the player 25% of their progress instead of resetting it entirely. Also, if they stop the interaction before it's complete, they will not lose their progress and will continue from where they left off on the next attempt. ".
I am guessing this just is summed up as saying you no longer lose all your progression for snapping out of it BUT when you do finally snap out of it you only go as far as madness II(2). I think sadly because it will not go down slowly after that it will
Well thanks again for being kind and getting back to me and I hope you continue to stay healthy and have good games. =) Long Distance Hug and pat on the bottom! GOOD GAME! rofl
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You are good. =) No worries at all. You were not really mean are called me some horrible names like some others have. If you are ever bored by the way and want a good read you should read the first reply in this forum.- https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1200047#Comment_1200047
It's forum about how toxic the community is and acts and the first reply makes me laugh. He goes on calling people snowflakes (which last time I checked was name calling and a toxic act) and then talks about how the more survivors get mad the better he knows he did. It made me laugh so figured if you are ever bored you can take a look and laugh at the guy trying to defend and stop people from being toxic BY being toxic. lol
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