Can killers please get something to counter camping?

"we all know camping is incredibly toxic"

LOL bait

All the more reasons killers should get penalized, unless they run Insidious. No one should be allowed to afk or camp.

make your choice is good in theory if you have a killer who can be mobile enough to see the guy who just unhooked the person. For everybody else who has to make that trip back to the hook its a waste of a slot because the person who's exposed can just hide leaving you to flip a coin during your next chase to even determine who has the debuff on. They feed survivors tons of information for free but didn't even bother to mark the exposed person with this perk......trash.

Where does it say that camping is not allowed ?

Camping was considered problematic by the developers themselves, looking for a solution. They failed or abandoned. Now at least one of them has expressed that it is a legitimate strategy. And all the most biased opinions joyfully repeat this opinion hoping to be authoritative, repeat this ridiculous reversal of conviction.

In most video games, the concept of griefing often includes camping. The first is condemnable in DBD, not the second. Likewise, camping is rarely - if ever - a desired mechanism in video games. It is not complicated to understand why: it brings nothing - or almost nothing - of interest. No dynamic, close to AFK, and deeply penalizing the experience of at least one player.

“Just abandon the hooked survivor (hoping he doesn't commit suicide), repair the generators and escapet!” WHAT A GREAT GAME, THANK YOU!

Yes, some players have a different vision of DBD, which they want dynamic. Some people don't want a game where they can find themselves doing nothing for several minutes, destroying a key on their keyboard, and where this ridiculous scene is the end of their game. And for the others, a game where they will only repair generators without ever meeting the killer supposed to hunt them...

Yes, some players want that in DBD, the killer must always make the effort to go to the survivors (this is the principle of the hunt), and not the reverse by a vulgar and simple hostage taking.

Dare to tell me that camping brings dynamism, is interesting, that it is beneficial for the game. Dare to tell me that these multiple people coming to taunt here on the forum because they use Leatherface for the sole purpose of camping with Insidious and Moris, that they do this by lEgItImAtE sTrAtEgY. Dare to say here that these people are not griefers.

Camping is problematic. It is not desirable. It's a game defect.

I would just like to point out that even if your concept was good (which it isn't), your numbers are garbage.

your average 4.6 m/s killer has a terror radius of 32m. In that 5 seconds you've given them, they can travel 23m. They would need a MINIMUM of 2 more seconds to get the hook out of their terror radius post hook and that's with them making a bee line directly away from the hook.

your average 4.4 m/s killer has a terror radius of 24m. In that 5 seconds, they can get 22m away. They also don't quite make it.

Huntress is an odd bean and actually does make it because she's 4.4 with a 20m TR.

Obviously the hyper mobile killers also make it for obvious reasons... but still. Your numbers hard punish the majority of the killers in the game. There's like... 5-6 or so Killers who can hook a dude and actually get away from the hook in time. This also doesn't give them any time to do things they may need to legit do after getting a hook... like kick a gen, break a pallet, or reload.

Also none of this considers The Game. With this punishment, you hook one guy in the middle of the map as a 32m killer... congrats you don't get to play the game anymore until they die or get unhooked... fun.

And DS and Borrowed Time is a strategy. Especially jumping in a locker to activate DS. Glad we all agree

I underatand your logic behind MYC being anti tunnel and i dont have a big issue with it because of the distance barrier, but it does prioritize the killers mission to get to that hook as soon as a save occurred. Thats strategy of killer with or without the perk but once they down the saver, the saved isn't far away. Usually.

50% speed after 5 seconds, so you want facecamping games only then?

Edit: What constitutes camping? From what im reading its literally referring to killers who dont ignore survivors and sprint away from the hook asap. Whenever im killer i do a quick nearby check before leaving, does that mean i camped because i spent a few seconds checking for a hook runner.

So many edits. That last question is for everyone not just the quoted

Lol why the poor attempt at b8?

If this were to happen, how about if survivors M1 generators for 5 seconds, they lose a second for each extra one spent on the generator?

1) MYC wont be able to trigger, unless the killer is at least 32m away from the hook. so while its also an anti tunnel perk, its mainly a anti camp perk.

2) killers are heavily penalized for camping by the emblem system, the scoring system and the survivors correct ingame behavior. unless the survivors literally feed the killer kills, the killer is very unlikely to get more than 2 kills that game, aswell as a safe depip and almost no Blood Points.

3) it sure is ironic, though i dont really understand what you were trying to prove here? its not like a killers power and their teachables would have any synergy with each other...

Hiding in a locker or a bush is not afk'ing.. It's a legit strategy and should not be punished by birds.

Yeah without knowing what counts as camping. Since going by the op idea. All we got is, standing near the hook. Which might not be camping. Since the other survivors could be swarming the hook, leaving marks around the area and other things, that tip off the killer they are nearby. That and as someone else pointed out, 5 seconds would not be enough time for a majority of killers to get out of range of the hook. Leading to punishment for the killer, even if they are speeding away from the hook. Which just punishes fair legit play. Yeah without a clear meaning of what camping is. Now if it was face camping, like A bubba standing in front of a hook to watch a survivor die. We would have a clear meaning we could talk about. Yet the op didn't give us that. So we have nothing to really work on. Since i seen people call a killer going between gens, to keep the survivors off of them, as camping. When that is one of the killers objectives, kill survivors before they can do gens and escape.

Killers already do get punished its very hard for them to pip while camping. Its not their fault that survivors choose to feed them by immediately going for save. If a killer is camping do as many gens as possible then go for save with bt and ds.

Is it really tunneling when your going after the person who made the rescue instead of the person pulled off the hook? You make it sound like the killer shouldn't go after anybody. If you go after the unhooked your tunneling. If you use MYC and chase the rescuer your tunneling. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT US TO DO? Let both of you go?.............on second thought don't answer that. I'm sure plenty of people in here legitimately believe the killer shouldn't go after anybody.

I find it funny when so many survivors say BBQ is OP. When in fact the devs created the perk to encourage killers to stop camping the hooks.

I love using DH. Now that ruin is crap I run DH more often. Most survivors don't look for totems unless there's a notice. DH doesn't give one until 3 stacks and by then I'm not letting you cleanse it.