Would an M1, 110%, perma-instadown killer be OP, UP, or just right?

I'm not a fan of the concept. There are already killers with instadowns and they are all 115% movement speed.

So you want a slower Infinite Tier 3 Myers? Billy? Bubba?

You are literally slower then survivors without blinks. Those youtube videos have really dumb survivors if the killer 4K's, Nurse can only catch survivors if they ######### up, or if she fully bloodlusts, at which point she is slightly faster. She is slower then them without her power. The four you listed are all only slightly slower then other killers, but still are faster then survivors. Either way, I'm not arguing that those killers can get easy hits without powers. I main Deathslinger, I know personally that you can land those hits pretty easily. But Nurse definitely cannot do it easily. If a Nurse 4k's without using her power, the survivors are incredibly dumb.

That would be insanely boring.

I also just realized this killer would struggle to pip because one hit downs highly punish emblems.

It would both be UP and OP and also insanely boring ot play as and against. Just try it out yourself, play Huntress, use Devour and go for M1s all the time once you are on 3 Stacks. It is not entirely comparable because you will not have to deal with that many Pallets anymore, since the game already advanced, but you will see how frustrating it will be for both sides.

Either you get looped as Killer A LOT, which makes it frustrating. Or, when you are in an area where the Pallet is already gone or there is nothing to work with, it is a free Insta-Down without any chance for the Survivor.

This is not about they don't use their power and get M1 hits. If you KNOW they don't have a power, they wouldn't get a hit. People running backwards looking to dodge hatchets, trying to mindgame pallets and stuff, you know? And no blink nurse should never even get a down, all the videos you see rely on potatoes. Ever watched Scratched Mirror Myers videos? He has wall hacks and 0 TR, that allow him to get easy hits. As soon as he is chasing, he is super easy to outplay, and he is >100% ms, not below.

Underpowered probably.

Unless their Terror Radius is close to 0 Survivors could just pre-throw pallets to keep them at bay.

With 110% and no traversal power they'd just get genrushed since Survivors can just split up and hold M1 until they hear Terror Radius.

If this Killer is a Stealth Killer tho, they might stomp solo queues by surprising people without Spine Chill/aura reading perks, but SWFs would just keep an eye and ear out and turn them into a slower trapless Trapper.

In any case, this Killer would have to have a VERY interesting personality for anyone to play them. All they'll really be doing gameplay-wise is holding WASD and pressing spacebar or M1 every once in a while.

Due to consistency he would have a 24 metre TR which can be reduced to 16. Play with your food would be Godlike on this Killer since you only lose 1 stack per hit.

Probably a bit op.

Kinda interresting how divided people are on this

well, whatever it'd be i am sure it wouldnt see a lot of play.

the whole concept sounds very boring to play / play against thb.

they would probaply end up slaugthering bad players and get slaugthered by good players. cause 110%s get looped VERY easily without their power.

So your defense is that YouTubers (people who play this game for a living) can pull this off with somewhat consistency thus its powerful? What about the thousands of people who can't or the matches they don't get the 4k? If the argument is "they can do it" then by that logic a killer standing still pretending to go AFK can also get free hits...

This seems like cherry picking.

Nurse moves slower than survivor base speed thus a non-potato survivor can run away from her indefinitely.

At bloodlust 1 she moves the same speed as a survivor meaning you can still get away easily if you don't cut corners at a worst angle than Nurse.

At bloodlust 2 nurse can finally gain distance on you, however the distance will be lost with the use of a single pallet toss. If the Nurse breaks that pallets she loses all bloodlust.

Anyway this thread isn't about Nurse but about the idea OP had regarding a killer with the specified abilities listed. My answer to that is, no they wouldn't be OP but they would be boring as hell and not an improvement to the game on either side.

I feel like it would be a nightmare to play and play against.

I'd expect with that power, they'd have some serious limitations. So it's like, your either tortured by your leash as killer or your left depressed with "I guess I'll just die" moments as survivor.

A game should be balanced toward the top level of play without sacrificing the bottom. We already have Plague who is STRONGER than this hypothetical killer would be and she is fine. Even considered a litte underpowered.

115ms is worth the build up tbh, Legion is in the same boat as survivors generally don't heal against them

So we have 2 killers that are bassicly insta downs with 115ms and they are both conciddert mediocre to bad

The hypothetical 110 ms oneshotter stands no chance against experienced survivors imo

@BigBrainMegMain

Unless a survivor royally messes up, a killer rarely gets a "free hit". All 110% movement speed killers have something to assist them to down survivors easier and with the majority of them it can be used as a mind game, this is most noticed on Spirit and Deathslinger. The only reason why Deathslinger can get so many M1's is the fear that they'll get speared. I've noticed they're just swerving or randomly turning left or right to try to predict when he's gonna shoot which ultimately makes them lose distance thus lending him a free hit. Would a 110% with insta down be overpowered? No, they would be effective against newer players but very ineffective against experienced. If you're thinking of a 4 man team with actual experience (not somebody with 50 hours and who magically climbed up to rank 1). They would consistently stomp a killer like this. Some loops are almost infinites for 110% and some are actual infinites as they're not fast enough to get bloodlust.

Would it be the weakest? No. Would it be the strongest? No.

People comparing him with plague forget that you can still use dead hard so i think the killer would be a little stronger

OP vs 90% of the survivor population, UP against the other 10%.

Pyramid head, 110%, every 20 seconds he can swing with an insta down or take out a pallet, reduced recovery from hit or no recovery time at all, otherwise no way to hit survivors. With M2 he can completely and instantly remove his terror radius for 5 seconds, 40 second cooldown.

It's definitely an interesting thought. But I think it would be likely to be overpowered. If we assume a 24m TR M&A knocks it down to 16. Which is really tiny. Then I'd personally run Brutal, Enduring, Spirit Fury. Depending on the map, you get easy hits because they were out of position. Or you shred through pallets like they're nothing.

As a side question. What the killer addons do? At this point there power is always active. So addons would have no use.

While interesting, I'd say it's probably a really bad idea.