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Livestreams too useless?

Just curious if anybody shares this sentiment, but livestreams feel completely and utterly pointless aside from the few actual issues they may address. Lately, they feel like a little get together for the devs to crack jokes with eachother and then defend the flaws in their own game rather than consider why it may not be working. I know with the COVID pandemic right now, it may be difficult but this is a recurring theme in their updates. While I appreciate the things they do that are good for this game, it's starting to feel they're heavily outweighed by the flaws the devs acknowledge, but don't fix. It really feels like the devs don't care about the players experience as much as having the players, if that makes any sense. Either be more transparent and understanding with the playerbase instead of denying what may be wrong, or sell the game to a studio that can. I love this game so much but lately it has gotten ridiculous with what could be, but isn't.

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  • PassarinoT
    PassarinoT Member Posts: 910

    Yeah, most have some good pieces to them, but this last one had one important issue and the rest were of little to no importance. Then, if they were of slight importance, the devs literally brushed them off with no specified answer. REDACTED is such a joke of an answer, why even bother with the question.

  • SpacingLlamas
    SpacingLlamas Member Posts: 602
    edited April 2020

    livestreams have been pretty worthless to me for almost a year now. at most 3 to 4 questions about serious or interesting things about the game and its problem. I completely skip them now and just come to the forums if anything important comes out of it and once again seems that was the case

  • Duskyy
    Duskyy Member Posts: 51

    I genuinely don't watch the love streams but ik what they are like. They don't fix most stuff they ask you too. But I'm not saying that the game is bad. I also understand that from their perspective. It is hard making a game in general. Imagine making a game as hard as dead by daylight. For example, if you have ever coded before, even most of the simple stuff is hard. Imagine coding a game like dead by daylight. It is alot of work and alot of people do not understand that.

  • PassarinoT
    PassarinoT Member Posts: 910

    I feel that. I think the devs literally just pick what they want to answer and even then, they avoid responding sometimes it feels like.

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570
  • GraveHunter
    GraveHunter Member Posts: 328

    I stopped watching these "live" streams ages ago. What a waste of time it is nowadays. Before they were fun to watch and I would make time when they were doing it. Now, nope.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,276

    I mean, at least one person was interested in those kind of questions, otherwise they would not have been asked.


    In general, seeing those reactions in this Thread can lead the Devs to not do Q&As or Livestreams at some point. And if that is happening, Threads like "When is the next Livestream" or "OMG the Devs dont talk to their Community anymore!!!11" will pop up. Like...eh. If you dont like the Q&A thats fine, but calling people lazy or blaming them for reading their own answers (or answers from the person who is in charge for that type of question) is not really constructive.

  • PlantCollector
    PlantCollector Member Posts: 344

    I think the questions about the weaopon or the deathslinger are fine, if some people are interested in this cool looking dude i can totally understand that.

    What im personally not happy about is the way they answer. No direct answers (which is fine in some cases if they want to make surprises or don't hype the community about something that is tested and may not work) and almost all of the time "we want to look at that". If there are so many balance things they want to look at then why aren't they investing more ressources into that specific part. I always have the picture of 10 people in a little studio programming dbd in my head, because it takes soo long to implement and look at things. They are'nt a small company at all but if you compare them to others, they're not capable of doing even the smallest things others handle in about 1 day.

    If i'd put that amount of effort in my work as an employee in a large succesful company, i would be fired almost immediately. They even make bad jokes about some really annoying bugs in their game as programmers, which is the most insulting thing for me. If you are aware of issues then adress them and don't be like "haha yeah, haha, imagine cant leaving the basement because of a bug, haha".

    Im aware that there are some things i can't look into as an outstanding person, but there are also some things that should have been fixed like months ago and the way they handle their ressource management is something i really can not undertsand. There are so many people out there that love this game by heart and they really hope that some things will be getting adressed in the future.

  • PlantCollector
    PlantCollector Member Posts: 344
    edited April 2020

    Q&A in a nutshell:

    Q: Are you guys going to buff the clown anytime soon?

    A:

    Q: okay ...

  • BigBrainMegMain
    BigBrainMegMain Member Posts: 3,826

    Most questions they answer are basically

    "What hair will Nea get next?"

    Or

    "What eyebrow shape will Jane get on her next cosmetic?"

  • OldHunterLight
    OldHunterLight Member Posts: 3,001

    I was hoping for info about cross progression/ crossplay, how they are going to fix deadzones etc, but it ended with questions about a killee that I hate to use and hate to play against.

  • StrainedSky
    StrainedSky Member Posts: 49

    I think Crossplay will be their big Anniversary announcement.

  • OldHunterLight
    OldHunterLight Member Posts: 3,001

    If it is, I will make you a god lol hopefully you are right and they just want to make us wait until the announcement

  • GHOSTfaceP3
    GHOSTfaceP3 Member Posts: 1,364

    Ya this stream was completely useless

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,276

    "Like questions about accesibility settings, broken sounds (as well as TR music being too quiet), bottom tier killer reworks, tome and recolored charms/skins, and so on and so forth."

    What do those things have to do with Chapter 15 or the Midchapter? Exactly, nothing. Not that hard to understand...

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,033

    One person.....that justifies time being devoted to it as opposed to the questions hundreds of people were asking but were never addressed?

  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Member, Administrator, Mod Posts: 17,859

    The Q&A was about Midchapter and Chapter 15, what you mentioned has nothing to do with those.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,276

    Nah, I just understand that only Questions regarding the Chapter 15 and Midchapter will be answered. So I will not waste my time asking a question which is not related to those two topics. And I will not watch a Livestream expecting that there will be an answer to my question.

    I find that pretty easy to understand. Sure, other things should be answered as well, but they made it clear which questions will be accepted, and anyone who asks different stuff should not expect an answer.

    I might be alone with that, but I am already used to this kind of work companies do.

  • myersismydaddy
    myersismydaddy Member Posts: 232

    Okay, fair enough. Then how about the questions about the changes in the lightning and graphical improvements, the death traps, the removal of great pallets and how the pallet system works now, the fact that they added in-game ping, but not ping indicators for players in the lobby etc. There are a lot of great questions specifically about the upcoming patch as well, as you can see.

    I agree that a couple of questions that I've pointed out are not about the upcoming patch, but there is nothing wrong with asking questions like that. They're basically shielding themselves when they say "only questions about this and that" because they know that they will get the same questions over and over again that they do not want to address.

  • myersismydaddy
    myersismydaddy Member Posts: 232

    I've replied to Aven in that regard. There were a lot of questions that were about the upcoming patch or the previous one, and were left unanswered.

    Also, broken sounds, and arguably the tome recolors are viable questions for the next patch. Sounds - why were they still not fixed. Recolors - why are they still here if we don't want them (unless the survey proved otherwise, and we would all be really grateful to see the results of that one to help with transparency).

  • Exerlin
    Exerlin Member Posts: 1,352

    I like a lot of questions being asked. I find it interesting to hear about the inspirations and ideas that helped create certain characters

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789

    You've literally described the outlook of the DBD team, at the very least.

  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Member, Administrator, Mod Posts: 17,859
    edited April 2020

    This was a Q&A about the new features and content from said chapter and midchapter, if they decide in the future to do a strictly technical stream about the issues you mentioned, then good, but this past one wasn't about that.

    It was simply just about that, nothing related to bugs, number of pallets, sounds.

    Also i think that calling useless questions other users asked is pretty disrespectful, since they took their time to ask them and they are probably glad they got an answer.

  • PassarinoT
    PassarinoT Member Posts: 910

    Man, it's not even worth arguing with him. He's just as thick-skulled as the devs, he won't even consider what you're saying. Or she, or them, idk pronouns here.

  • PassarinoT
    PassarinoT Member Posts: 910

    Exactly, the devs need to learn to be able to listen to the community and respond to even the most negative of feedback. They don't know how to interact with their audience well. They aren't transparent, instead they give vague and unpromising answers or ignore the questions altogether for a less meaningful question.

  • PassarinoT
    PassarinoT Member Posts: 910

    To think I used to have faith in these devs, pathetic. Can't believe they waste so much time responding to posts only to be rejecting their idea. Do the devs not know how to say a simple "sorry, our fault, we'll fix it"? They literally defend anything just so they can change it at their own leisure instead of the demand of a whole community.

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    To be fair, i'm pretty sure they can't always give specific answers.

    And if they gave dates and didn't deliver because x thing happenned then they would get even more yelled at.

  • xenofon13
    xenofon13 Member Posts: 1,241

    That stream was the worst ever.

    Keep it up BHVR, putting people to sleep.


  • Dzeikor
    Dzeikor Member Posts: 704

    I highly disagree,the fact they put that funny clip before the livestream shows they know what really happens with the game and they are aware of the issues,as every livestream,they can only adress that is already in the game and upcoming and announced.

  • PassarinoT
    PassarinoT Member Posts: 910

    This is fair, I mean look at what happened with DBD mobile being released the year after it was supposed to be released. But still, why even bother bringing in questions like "Are you going to rework more maps?" when all they can say is "Our answer is redacted, haha, sorry." when they can answer a question with a legitimate response? It doesn't make sense to me, this livestream felt like an attempt at reeling in players with a slight sense of hope for the game, but without making any promises just to stay safe, which is ok, but wasteful.

  • BigBrainMegMain
    BigBrainMegMain Member Posts: 3,826

    Did they give any Perk Stats?

    SWF Stats?

    Escape rates per rank?

    Gen times and match times per rank after the Ruin nerf?

    Gen times and match times before the ruin nerf?

    Killers kill rate per rank?

    Solo survival rates?

    THIS is useful information, this determines which side needs help and which needs some tweaking.

    I asked this question and it was deleted.

    I asked it again, and it was deleted.

    This question was not answered.

    I'm just saying, not starting a discussion, but THIS is useful information.

  • Thatbrownmonster
    Thatbrownmonster Member Posts: 1,640

    Yo my answer got responded to! shame the answer was to every question tho

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    They wouldn't answer these because they weren't only mid-chapter and chapter 15 related. You can find Rizzo's later answers in this post too stating this thing.