Survivor Mains: "Why do killers always want 4k's?"

I'm still a little lost by DBD terminology, what does it mean to "Slug"? Also I thought the reason killers try to get a 4k is because that's the point. I don't really play DBD competitively, I play for fun.

See, I would buy this line of reasoning if the survivors were all rank 4. But they're not. There's a rank 1, two 2s, and a 4. If he "drawed" against this team with a supposedly higher skill rating, then he should rank up. I've had this exact situation dozens of times. Anywhere between rank 1-6, I've been matchmade with full teams of rank 1-2 players. I'll kill two rank 1s in a full team of rank 1 players, and receive no ranking progress for it.

This is ridiculous, because by the devs' own words this means that I performed at the level of a rank 1 that match. If the matchmaking is going to be so loose and queue you with much higher ranks, you should at least be rewarded for performing on their level.

Yeah, but one side is higher in average rank then the other side. When you "tie" with a person of a lower rank, it is a loss. In almost every ranking system used, you would lose rank while the lower rank would gain rank. It's simple logic.

Possibly because he lacks on kicking gens, hurting multiple survivors, slowing the game down instead of rushing a 4k in 5 minutes. That's the price you pay for not "feeding" the entity with a rollercoaster of emotions properly

Altruism for Survivors is a team effort. If she was camping, then yeah. Nobody would have been healing.

Kinda sucks that the other side can have their emblems decimated by the actions of your side. Camping? Low Altruism and low Devotion. GoT tHe KiLl ThO!

Because after all the pointing after dropping pallets, teabagging, attention needy flashlight clicking and body blocking the hook....

I only slug for the 4K when the team has attempted to troll me with sabs and or flashlights and usually it’s me looking for someone specifically doing one of those things. Or if I’m doing a challenge. I find more fun seeing who can find the hatch first and don’t really care about 1 getting out. Also the rankings are 100% meaningless. They don’t matter at all, no rewards and matchmaking is random af anyways. Idk why it’s so hard to give us some shards or auric cells based on our ranks every month and give us a reason for doing it. I’ve been red ranks on killer and survivor multiple times but it never feels rewarding whatsoever.

I think a lot of people give huge flack to emblem system but a lot of the time, the emblem system is correct in evaluate wins and loss for killer. I think the only problem with killer emblem system is that chaser emblem punishes instant down killers and over rewards killer like legion who stab people multiple times. It is best seen when nobody cleanses against plague for how hard it is to pip as killer because of the large amount of instant downs. The other issue is that if a killer 4k's too quickly or the survivor purposely disconnects resulting too short of a game, than the killer gets robbed of emblem points. I think that if a killer 4k's, he/she should unconditional pip as he/she has succeed in killing all the survivors. I think if instant down and 4k black pip(too short game) problems are fixed, the killer emblem system is near perfect.

For survivor, it's still big mess. For one, the emblem system for survivor has too much weighting on gatekeeper emblem and altruism emblem. I think that these two categories should get merged and it should be called "Cooperation" or "Teamwork". These categories are very easy to fill and I suspect it is main reason why there are a lot of boosted survivors in red ranks because they are constantly able to black pip from these categories. Another problem with emblem system for survivor is that survival category only ranks each individual survivor escaping on personal level despite escaping being a team effort. The way it is now, survivors are almost encouraged to play for themselves when it comes to this category when in reality, The result of one survivor dying can mean the escape of the rest of the team. I think this emblem should be based off how many of your teammates escape. For example, all 4 escaping is iridescent, 3 is gold, 2 is silver, 1 is bronze. Lastly, I think chaser emblem largely represents the survivor's skill level in this game because a lot of the game is about chases. I think this emblem should be defining factor for whether a survivor pips or not. Running a killer around and winning chases should be highest reward for survivor, and yet it is only 1/4 of categories to fill. I just feel like survivor ranking system is too easy and it doesn't properly evaluate loss/wins like killer emblem system does. I think if there were only 3 emblems, "Teamwork", "Team survival" and Chaser, It would better reflect skill-level of survivors. It would make ranking up for survivor harder and it would more accurately determine loss/wins rather than constant black pip or pip.

I feel like if your trying to rank up you're playing wrong

Because the point of the game isnt to end it instantly. The point is to get hooks, use your power and pressure gens

Just like survivors dont pip if they end the game in 5 seconds

Afraid that's a "strawman" argument.

While you and I may not care about ranking during a match MANY players enjoy the more competitive side of DBD and the pip system is meant to measure your match performance, however when it seems so "off" from the game you just played it leaves a poor taste in your mouth.

So to say "who care about ranks at this point"...well, lots of people do and they have every right to enjoy that aspect of the game.

you only got the iri chaser emblem as the killer tht most easily manipulates his chases, i would have loved to see number of hooks, if you hook every person once and kill 2 you're almost guaranteed gold in sacrifices, 2 kills and 2 escapes (which I'm sure didn't come from a key because i dont know a single killer main tht wouldn't title ths "KEYS ARE THE MEANING OF ANTI SKILL!!?!?!" or something like tht if people double hatched with a key). You definitely went an entire phase without getting a kill, whether it be Gen, Gate opening or Endgame Collapse meaning there was an entire section with no kills while the survivors where moving towards their target. how many hooks did you have, it looks like you slugged and still 2 got away, tht is by every measurement being outperformed.

point of the game as killer is to feed the entity hope and fear the killer does this by proper amounts of hooking and hitting survivors letting other survivors rescue hooked ones and finaly after all the cat and mouse playing it culminates in the survivor being killed before they escape THATS the point of the game from the killer side

from survivor side its to do the gens maby do totems if ur scared of NOED and then haul arse out the gate back to the campfire to await your next torture session at the hands of the entitys killers

if u kill too fast the entity isnt fed the proper amounts of hope and fear and thus no rank up

however taking too long and the entity gets bored as well theres a sweet spot to it

Survivor: exist in the same game as freddy... +250 each time they fall asleep

Also survivor: wow I did 3 dull totems, 1 gen and i did'nt escape but I still pip up!

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Oh please, we both know that survivor can most the time even when they don't escape.

Survivor get enought point if they rushed gens cause well, they did gens and they probably escaped.

If killer end the game fast, he was either using mori or survivor dies on first hook, so he only got 4 hook and game say that not enought.

It incredible how the rank punish the killer for killing to fast..

But camping as killer and doing 4k don't pip you.

Strange the kilelr did his objectif, he killer 4 person.

See we both can bring up bullshit if we want.

''Meaning you didn't really go looking for survivors or chase them.''

Do I have to explain how camp work to you? the whole point of it is baiting survivor near the hook to down them, Yea if I camp I won't go looking for survivor, im making them come to me. if they don't come I wont 4k because guess what, they will gen rush out cause they know how to deal with camp.

Yea if I camp I won't chase survivor, the whole point is that if I start a chase I wont be camping anymore.

your chase emblem point drain down fast if you stay near hook.

The fact that survivor will try to swarm you mean you will lose point in Malicious cause you wont chase them that much whitout going to far from hook.

You get devout cause you hooked people

Gatekeeper gonna be bad cause you don't care about gens when your defending hook.

If you manage to 4k and pip while camping, My bet is your cheating in some way since you somehow able to win chase while protecting hook while not being close to hook while stopping generators,

That or your a god at freddy who had incredible hook spawn near generators...

When i play swf and gen rush i usually dont pip cauze the game goes to fast.

The ranking system is horrible i do agree with that survivors pip more easily which results in rank 20s boosted to rank 1