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MLGA should possibly be blacklisted

FireOnEarth
FireOnEarth Member Posts: 5
in General Discussions
Dont start a mob at me. Starting off with that. I have used mlga. And I see why it's useful. It's nice to be able to avoid cheaters and hackers. But here is the thing. Alot of people abuse the power of being able to block someone. I'm blocked and I'm actually a fair and fun killer. But people have blocked me on MLGA because I've mori'd then, because I use iri heads on huntress, ive even been blocked because I use whispers and the survivor complained it's a crutch perk. The problem is people abuse a nice program to play only the way they want. The IP tracker is nice. It's nice to see if someone is lag switching and all. But again. People abuse it to change the game to how they want. Not what was intended by the game. What's your opinion on this? 

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  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    Simple solution don't use it, I don't and never will and both sides use it to block people they don't like playing with. It should be added to the ban list plain and simple. Inb4 all the whiners come on here and say add voice comms to it.

  • CoolAKn
    CoolAKn Member Posts: 677

    This MLGA application, does it prevent you from matching with people you have blocked?

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @FireOnEarth said:
    Dont start a mob at me. Starting off with that. I have used mlga. And I see why it's useful. It's nice to be able to avoid cheaters and hackers. But here is the thing. Alot of people abuse the power of being able to block someone. I'm blocked and I'm actually a fair and fun killer. But people have blocked me on MLGA because I've mori'd then, because I use iri heads on huntress, ive even been blocked because I use whispers and the survivor complained it's a crutch perk. The problem is people abuse a nice program to play only the way they want. The IP tracker is nice. It's nice to see if someone is lag switching and all. But again. People abuse it to change the game to how they want. Not what was intended by the game. What's your opinion on this? 

    There is nothing like a blacklist.

    ANY 3rd party programm NOT on the whitelist is bannable.
    As you know, MLGA has been removed from the whitelist and thus, its usage is a bannable offense according to the TOS.

    Now we have to the problem that MLGA actually doesnt interfere with the game files and thats the reason why EAC cant detect it. Basically its use is bannable but the devs have no tools to detect it. Of course if you are bragging about banning killer X while livestreaming on twitch, then the devs might take action :wink:

  • Hellrossa
    Hellrossa Member Posts: 105
    Come to the dark side of consoles :p where no such things exist !
  • FireOnEarth
    FireOnEarth Member Posts: 5
    Master said:

    @FireOnEarth said:
    Dont start a mob at me. Starting off with that. I have used mlga. And I see why it's useful. It's nice to be able to avoid cheaters and hackers. But here is the thing. Alot of people abuse the power of being able to block someone. I'm blocked and I'm actually a fair and fun killer. But people have blocked me on MLGA because I've mori'd then, because I use iri heads on huntress, ive even been blocked because I use whispers and the survivor complained it's a crutch perk. The problem is people abuse a nice program to play only the way they want. The IP tracker is nice. It's nice to see if someone is lag switching and all. But again. People abuse it to change the game to how they want. Not what was intended by the game. What's your opinion on this? 

    There is nothing like a blacklist.

    ANY 3rd party programm NOT on the whitelist is bannable.
    As you know, MLGA has been removed from the whitelist and thus, its usage is a bannable offense according to the TOS.

    Now we have to the problem that MLGA actually doesnt interfere with the game files and thats the reason why EAC cant detect it. Basically its use is bannable but the devs have no tools to detect it. Of course if you are bragging about banning killer X while livestreaming on twitch, then the devs might take action :wink:

    Yeah. Valid points there. I just dont like being blocked for dumb reasons. As many other killers are blocked too by others 
  • SadonicShadow
    SadonicShadow Member Posts: 1,146

    If we got dedicated servers would MLGA even be an issue anymore?

  • FireOnEarth
    FireOnEarth Member Posts: 5
    SadonicShadow said:

    If we got dedicated servers would MLGA even be an issue anymore?

    Yeah. You change the program to show the people in the lobby. And your loved/blocked would still show for the killer. So yes
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @FireOnEarth said:

    Yeah. You change the program to show the people in the lobby. And your loved/blocked would still show for the killer. So yes

    I don't think so since the id's are server sided at that point and thus controlled by the game. If MLGA tries to hack into something server side to get data it'll get you a very quick ban.

  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437
    Master said:

    @Hellrossa said:
    Come to the dark side of consoles :p where no such things exist !

    The dark side where there are no banns, even for ochido?
    Nah thanks :wink:

    But the dark side has all the fun toys one of them being no one can chat toxic in a game before or after it without being easily blocked and not bannable to chat since console's have it built in
  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    edited September 2018
    Hellrossa said:
    Come to the dark side of consoles :p where no such things exist !
    Dunno what you’re talking about. People use the PSN app to see my name all the time. I get dodged constantly as Killer for being a known Nurse Main.

    I also get dodged plenty as Survivor just because my profile isn’t set to private. You’d be surprised how many Killers dodge me when they see i’ve got 92% of the trophies in the game. 
  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    crybaby survivors just use it to block people who beat them

  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437
    SovererignKing said:
    Hellrossa said:
    Come to the dark side of consoles :p where no such things exist !
    Dunno what you’re talking about. People use the PSN app to see my name all the time. I get dodged constantly as Killer for being a known Nurse Main.

    I also get dodged plenty as Survivor just because my profile isn’t set to private. You’d be surprised how many Killers dodge me when they see i’ve got 92% of the trophies in the game. 
    Can I have a kyf match with you so I can improve my survivor skills kind sir
  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    redsopine1 said:
    SovererignKing said:
    Hellrossa said:
    Come to the dark side of consoles :p where no such things exist !
    Dunno what you’re talking about. People use the PSN app to see my name all the time. I get dodged constantly as Killer for being a known Nurse Main.

    I also get dodged plenty as Survivor just because my profile isn’t set to private. You’d be surprised how many Killers dodge me when they see i’ve got 92% of the trophies in the game. 
    Can I have a kyf match with you so I can improve my survivor skills kind sir
    Sure. Which Killer do you have trouble with? I can do step by step. Usually the biggest mistakes of Survivors are predictably.

    My name on PSN is SoveriegnKing. I usually play between 7AM and 1PM EST on weekdays (I work midnights, so I’m asleep 2pm-9pm EST and work 10PM-6AM EST). Weekends are sporadic for me, though my place of work is running 6-7 days a week as of right now.
  • Hellrossa
    Hellrossa Member Posts: 105
    SovererignKing said:
    Hellrossa said:
    Come to the dark side of consoles :p where no such things exist !
    Dunno what you’re talking about. People use the PSN app to see my name all the time. I get dodged constantly as Killer for being a known Nurse Main.

    I also get dodged plenty as Survivor just because my profile isn’t set to private. You’d be surprised how many Killers dodge me when they see i’ve got 92% of the trophies in the game. 

    That's impressive :o
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  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @yeet said:
    crybaby survivors just use it to block people who beat them

    Yep it's always survivors yet you conveniently ignore all the toxic jerks on your own side. Its almost as if those hypocrite blinders of yours are too bright. I mean it's not like killers don't use it to block people or just use the PSN app to do it which is no different.

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @Master said:

    @Hellrossa said:
    Come to the dark side of consoles :p where no such things exist !

    The dark side where there are no banns, even for ochido?
    Nah thanks :wink:

    Its ok I asked on the "wish list" page for console bans to become a thing. If I'm lucky and eat all my broccoli maybe in a few years I'll get a response!

  • Superyoshiegg
    Superyoshiegg Member Posts: 1,490
    edited September 2018

    I will never understand why people complain about being blocked.

    1) You will never have to deal with their toxicity again.
    2) If they block every good player that outplays them, they're going to have a difficult time finding matches.

    If they don't want to play with someone, they should not be forced to. Killers have the exact ability inherently.

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  • Superyoshiegg
    Superyoshiegg Member Posts: 1,490

    @Mycroft said:

    @Superyoshiegg said:
    I will never understand why people complain about being blocked.

    1) You will never have to deal with their toxicity again.
    2) If they block every good player that outplays them, they're going to have a difficult time finding matches.

    They even block according to what killer people use and how they play.

    Which will eventually lead to my second point.

  • Someissues
    Someissues Member Posts: 1,604

    This should be bannable, it's stupid how you can block players to your liking

    since it's not bannable and the mods confirmed it to be safe unless EAC does something. people gonna abuse this to hell now

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  • Superyoshiegg
    Superyoshiegg Member Posts: 1,490

    @Someissues said:
    This should be bannable, it's stupid how you can block players to your liking

    You mean like how the killer can do exactly do without the need of third party addons?

  • Grey87
    Grey87 Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2018

    @FireOnEarth said:
    Dont start a mob at me. Starting off with that. I have used mlga. And I see why it's useful. It's nice to be able to avoid cheaters and hackers. But here is the thing. Alot of people abuse the power of being able to block someone. I'm blocked and I'm actually a fair and fun killer. But people have blocked me on MLGA because I've mori'd then, because I use iri heads on huntress, ive even been blocked because I use whispers and the survivor complained it's a crutch perk. The problem is people abuse a nice program to play only the way they want. The IP tracker is nice. It's nice to see if someone is lag switching and all. But again. People abuse it to change the game to how they want. Not what was intended by the game. What's your opinion on this? 

    MLGA is same as killers seeing survivors.
    As soon as they will not allow that I will support banning MLGA.
    Till then your argument is just crying because survivors can do the same thing you are probably doing as killer.

  • Grey87
    Grey87 Member Posts: 346

    @yeet said:
    crybaby survivors just use it to block people who beat them

    Crybaby killers dodge and do the same "blocking" but use steam. Should ban steam too xD
    Damn dude you're very smart.
    I use MLGA and only "block" those who start lagging mid game.

  • SanKa_Games
    SanKa_Games Member Posts: 201

    @SadonicShadow said:
    If we got dedicated servers would MLGA even be an issue anymore?

    It wouldn't be a problem, since MLGA is designed for P2P games and relies on IP adresses.

  • Someissues
    Someissues Member Posts: 1,604

    @Superyoshiegg said:
    You mean like how the killer can do exactly do without the need of third party addons?

    I've been saying that they should punish Killers who dodge Lobbies, blocking someone cuz they are playing good is dumb, i could easily block all SWF squards that i find

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    Dumb da da dumb dumb....

    So make sure you can show EAC how to detect MLGA..... while you are at it..

    Oh yeah... don't forget the code is open source java application... so people can just modify it a bit and recompile it... then EAC wouldn't know any different.

    No matter how you'd like to see people banned for it... you have no way to control its use.

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  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    @Grey87 said:

    @yeet said:
    crybaby survivors just use it to block people who beat them

    Crybaby killers dodge and do the same "blocking" but use steam. Should ban steam too xD
    Damn dude you're very smart.
    I use MLGA and only "block" those who start lagging mid game.

    "if I don't do it nobody else does"
    blow it out your ass

  • Link
    Link Member Posts: 135

    two questions, where can i get a hold of this whitelist and will i get banned if i used the older version of mlga aka the one with only the ingame ping numbers

  • HookedonDemand
    HookedonDemand Member Posts: 181

    I feel bad, today alone I could have filled a page with horrible teammates, You know, hook suicides for no reason, dc's, all the fun stuff. But alas I try to stick with my memory of names and avoiding twitch tv persons like the plague. :)

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    edited September 2018

    @Link said:
    two questions, where can i get a hold of this whitelist and will i get banned if i used the older version of mlga aka the one with only the ingame ping numbers

    It doesnt exist. There is only a whitelist frmo EAC, but DBD has no official whitelist.
    I asked the devs once for it and they refered to the EAC support for the specific program and were never able to provide an official list of whilisted programs.

    The EAC support never answered btw :wink:

    But I can tell you for sure that MLGA has been removed from the whitelist

  • FireOnEarth
    FireOnEarth Member Posts: 5

    @Grey87 said:

    @FireOnEarth said:
    Dont start a mob at me. Starting off with that. I have used mlga. And I see why it's useful. It's nice to be able to avoid cheaters and hackers. But here is the thing. Alot of people abuse the power of being able to block someone. I'm blocked and I'm actually a fair and fun killer. But people have blocked me on MLGA because I've mori'd then, because I use iri heads on huntress, ive even been blocked because I use whispers and the survivor complained it's a crutch perk. The problem is people abuse a nice program to play only the way they want. The IP tracker is nice. It's nice to see if someone is lag switching and all. But again. People abuse it to change the game to how they want. Not what was intended by the game. What's your opinion on this? 

    MLGA is same as killers seeing survivors.
    As soon as they will not allow that I will support banning MLGA.
    Till then your argument is just crying because survivors can do the same thing you are probably doing as killer.

    i dont do this, i literally stream every game i play, i dont dodge, i play against anyone and everyone, even the big ones like Zubat and JenDenise, its bad entertainment if i dodge every SWF/Name/toxic player, i even play against a few members of the depip squad

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  • Grey87
    Grey87 Member Posts: 346

    @FireOnEarth said:

    @Grey87 said:

    @FireOnEarth said:
    Dont start a mob at me. Starting off with that. I have used mlga. And I see why it's useful. It's nice to be able to avoid cheaters and hackers. But here is the thing. Alot of people abuse the power of being able to block someone. I'm blocked and I'm actually a fair and fun killer. But people have blocked me on MLGA because I've mori'd then, because I use iri heads on huntress, ive even been blocked because I use whispers and the survivor complained it's a crutch perk. The problem is people abuse a nice program to play only the way they want. The IP tracker is nice. It's nice to see if someone is lag switching and all. But again. People abuse it to change the game to how they want. Not what was intended by the game. What's your opinion on this? 

    MLGA is same as killers seeing survivors.
    As soon as they will not allow that I will support banning MLGA.
    Till then your argument is just crying because survivors can do the same thing you are probably doing as killer.

    i dont do this, i literally stream every game i play, i dont dodge, i play against anyone and everyone, even the big ones like Zubat and JenDenise, its bad entertainment if i dodge every SWF/Name/toxic player, i even play against a few members of the depip squad

    Maybe you don't , but many many other killers do.
    There's so many reasons for scared killers to dodge, and I think the number of those is higher than the number of reasons a scared survivor would use mlga to dodge a killer xD

    As I said, as soon as they hide survivor names/profiles and only show the character and item then I will support banning mlga. Till then it's fair and no killer main has a right to complain about survivor dodging them. There are way more killers dodging than survivors anyway.

  • Grey87
    Grey87 Member Posts: 346

    @Master said:

    @Link said:
    two questions, where can i get a hold of this whitelist and will i get banned if i used the older version of mlga aka the one with only the ingame ping numbers

    It doesnt exist. There is only a whitelist frmo EAC, but DBD has no official whitelist.
    I asked the devs once for it and they refered to the EAC support for the specific program and were never able to provide an official list of whilisted programs.

    The EAC support never answered btw :wink:

    But I can tell you for sure that MLGA has been removed from the whitelist

    It was but it doesn't mean much.
    No one will get banned for using it.

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  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    What is the problem? Killers can use it and already do it manually without any 3rd party program.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Mycroft said:

    @Grey87 said:

    @FireOnEarth said:

    @Grey87 said:

    @FireOnEarth said:
    Dont start a mob at me. Starting off with that. I have used mlga. And I see why it's useful. It's nice to be able to avoid cheaters and hackers. But here is the thing. Alot of people abuse the power of being able to block someone. I'm blocked and I'm actually a fair and fun killer. But people have blocked me on MLGA because I've mori'd then, because I use iri heads on huntress, ive even been blocked because I use whispers and the survivor complained it's a crutch perk. The problem is people abuse a nice program to play only the way they want. The IP tracker is nice. It's nice to see if someone is lag switching and all. But again. People abuse it to change the game to how they want. Not what was intended by the game. What's your opinion on this? 

    MLGA is same as killers seeing survivors.
    As soon as they will not allow that I will support banning MLGA.
    Till then your argument is just crying because survivors can do the same thing you are probably doing as killer.

    i dont do this, i literally stream every game i play, i dont dodge, i play against anyone and everyone, even the big ones like Zubat and JenDenise, its bad entertainment if i dodge every SWF/Name/toxic player, i even play against a few members of the depip squad

    Maybe you don't , but many many other killers do.
    There's so many reasons for scared killers to dodge, and I think the number of those is higher than the number of reasons a scared survivor would use mlga to dodge a killer xD

    As I said, as soon as they hide survivor names/profiles and only show the character and item then I will support banning mlga. Till then it's fair and no killer main has a right to complain about survivor dodging them. There are way more killers dodging than survivors anyway.

    Uh huh...

    "Misbehaving" lol

  • Grey87
    Grey87 Member Posts: 346

    @Mycroft said:

    @Grey87 said:

    @FireOnEarth said:

    @Grey87 said:

    @FireOnEarth said:
    Dont start a mob at me. Starting off with that. I have used mlga. And I see why it's useful. It's nice to be able to avoid cheaters and hackers. But here is the thing. Alot of people abuse the power of being able to block someone. I'm blocked and I'm actually a fair and fun killer. But people have blocked me on MLGA because I've mori'd then, because I use iri heads on huntress, ive even been blocked because I use whispers and the survivor complained it's a crutch perk. The problem is people abuse a nice program to play only the way they want. The IP tracker is nice. It's nice to see if someone is lag switching and all. But again. People abuse it to change the game to how they want. Not what was intended by the game. What's your opinion on this? 

    MLGA is same as killers seeing survivors.
    As soon as they will not allow that I will support banning MLGA.
    Till then your argument is just crying because survivors can do the same thing you are probably doing as killer.

    i dont do this, i literally stream every game i play, i dont dodge, i play against anyone and everyone, even the big ones like Zubat and JenDenise, its bad entertainment if i dodge every SWF/Name/toxic player, i even play against a few members of the depip squad

    Maybe you don't , but many many other killers do.
    There's so many reasons for scared killers to dodge, and I think the number of those is higher than the number of reasons a scared survivor would use mlga to dodge a killer xD

    As I said, as soon as they hide survivor names/profiles and only show the character and item then I will support banning mlga. Till then it's fair and no killer main has a right to complain about survivor dodging them. There are way more killers dodging than survivors anyway.

    Uh huh...

    I don't understand what you're trying to say.