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This just isn't fun anymore
It's hard enough being a new player, but explain to me the reasoning behind this kind of a matchmaking setup. I consider myself okay as a level 15 killer using a level 10 Freddy, but the game must think I'm a pro since it decided to pit me against survivors that weren't even double digits and had max perks with ultra-rare add-ons.
Almost every killer match is like this for me. No wonder a majority of players prefer to play as survivor.
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Yeah I think the ps4 playerbase is kinda #########.. as in not enough new survivors and killers to make it balanced. Most people quit killer due to this match making. Most likely the only thing that could fix this is crossplay
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Admittedly it would be nice to see cross play with Xbox and Nintendo Switch. But yeah almost every killer match is like this on PS4. I've been playing for 5 days straight with nothing but red ranks and purple ranks. It's ridiculous.
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I have bad days like that too hun so try not to let it discourage you. Take a break and try again another day.
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PS4 is just bad now, they've broken it until it's almost unplayable. At over 125MBPS I'm lucky to get 3 games in before DBD decides that I'm not allowed to play anymore and I get the (since last patch or two) "Disconnected from host" bug. It shows as if the killer DC'd. I certainly didn't DC, and then I get hit with a ban. Just got hit with another 28 minute ban. Isn't this game fun?
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Here's the best part, according to bhvr the rank 9 is within your matchmaking range! Anyone within 6 ranks of your rank is eligible to be placed in a match with you. So what probably happened is that the rank 9 was SWF-ing with the rest and the game used their matchmaking, because instead of finding the average of the whole group it just uses the lowest ranking player! ######### this stupid game!
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I just have my own gut feeling that the devs don't really care.
I've been playing for 3 years now and from a balance standpoint, it's better than 3 years ago but the bugs, ping, matchmaking are a huge F imo.
As a final note I due believe that the devs should focus a Full chapter on reworks, bug fixes, A full rework to the matchmaking system and keep ping under 100ms.
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Yes ! I totally agree, as a new player im facing this kind of stuff 1 out of every 2 matches, lvl 15 killer always matching with rank 1-4 survivors at least 2 red ones per match ... its ... frustaiting to say the least .. really realllllyyyyy makes u wanna quit. its matchmaking sistem is sooooo poor ... its sad to see this great game go to hell cause of poor matchmaking. I even sent a ticket to ask them why would they have me ranking as a new player vs rank 1's constantly and they send me this https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/124795/ I hope its useful for you :/
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Rank 15 or below will be matched into any rank matches to help new players find matches instead of waiting forever and still not get a single match
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PC Masterrace.
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My friend started playing as killer and its ridiculous watching all these high ranked survivors just messing with her because they know they can after playing with her a few minutes.
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Yeah, matchmaking is #########, I'm surprised I managed to become a rank 1 Killer and Survivor.
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It hasn't been fun for quite some time. I got on this past weekend, and got 4 red rank survivors as a rank 13 killer my first match. I thought to myself " my first match, and I already want to stop playing ".
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I know what you mean. Don't get me wrong, I do have some relatively fair matches here and there, but the majority of mine are like this. It sucks..
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I think they temporarily increased the ranges due to poor q times. Whenever I solo as survivor I get killers that are out of the range. I do also remember the q times being worse before this (I recently took a break from survivor so I was white ranks).
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The only way for devs to get the idea is quit playing... which sucks but if there not receiving money well then they’ll be forced to look at all the complaints. Come on we pay ten dollars for cosmetics they can listen to our complaints instead of be greedy. But just remember they made a fortune for not supporting there player base. A cosmetic is a third of what the game cost at retail that’s just insane. I think if it was console to console crossplay it might be fine ps4, Xbox one and switch cause you can actually use a pro controller and switch and it’s not to bad on it but I don’t believe console vs pc is even fair that’s way not in the slightest. But like I said they don’t care about you there a business that wants your money remember that when they tell you there on your side
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Yeah, from what I experienced, crossplay should be our best option if we don't have enough killers. I'm tired of constantly waiting for a match for almost 3 hours.
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It's the same for xbox I just encountered 2 rank ones and a rank 6 at the same time. I'm a rank 18 killer main, I sometimes play survivor when I get tired of going against tanks that are single digits. My friends and I are thinking about quitting the game because of it.
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See the broken matchmaking works for me because I'm only a sometimes killer player so by the time I get to killer I've been deranked to the high teens. I by no means think I'm good enough to play against red ranks, but I'm a red rank survivor so I understand the strats that they try to pull which certainly helps. Last night I had 4ks against red rank survivors and lower with the doctor, the wraith and Legion. Maybe find a killer that works better for you. I'm seeing someone post Pig and Shape matches...they're not the best unless you've been making them for years.
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I'm stuck at 13 with killer. Red and purple as survivor. I find playing survivor easier, less stressful, and more relaxing than playing killer. I get BP, and pips almost effortlessly playing survivor. Play my ass off as killer and barely safety.
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Wow! Yeah I used to have some fairly balanced matches here and there, but within the past week all of my matches mirror the same exact ones you had. It's just not fun. No wonder the queue times are so long for survivor matches.
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I think the rank doesnt mean anything anymore... I im rank 12 with killer and got ALL survivor rank 2... Because oficial their nick i even think It was SWF... But i killer everyone... I start to think guys like you are using this to Just talk bad about the matchmaking because you dont know How to play... Really
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Yeah you're right. Me and multiple other players like me are making all this up because we're looking to completely destroy dead by daylight.🙄
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Cross platform play would solve the player base issues
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I feel ya. Sometimes matchmaking is just a little insane.
Don't really have any words of encouragement other than to hang in there, not every match is that bad, and sometimes rank doesn't even mean that much.
And when you finally manage to 4K that 4-man SWF group of purple-red rank people you'll feel better. :D
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Freddy is a little bit difficult killer! You should play with easy killers at the beginning. Such as leatherface or hibilby or in my opinion Mikle Myers know as the Shape. If you upgrade mikle a lot you can make him really boosted
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But therein lies the problem. It's hard to find a killer that works for you if you're not really being given a fair chance to play the game. As you could see my level 10 Freddy only have 3 perk slots unlocked, two of which are level 1 perks, yet I'm being matched against survivors that were more than 10 levels under mine. If I was naturally a red ranked player then I could understand that, but I'm not. But my level doesn't even come close to those other levels.
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It's not just ps4, the entire game is bad to play killer right now. There's just not enough people playing killer. The way the game is right now I can't imagine new killers sticking around after seeing how MM works.
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I think a lot of people left the game when they changed Hex: Ruin. IMHO it made the game really repetitive. If you don't juggle survivors, and give up on potentially long chases, you just lose, horribly. Which makes sense, right? It's how killers are in their movies... Like, when Michael Myers is going after someone he's stalking, if he see's them go inside a building and the lock the door, he just leaves, because he knows it will just be a waste of his time. Same goes for Freddy, and Leatherface... /s
Anyways, I don't know if fixing matchmaking will help. I'm rank 1 as both roles, and I've tried smurfing (using an low level account) as killer on an alternate playstation account. I didn't struggle too much, but survivors were definitely better than I thought they would be. There were even some survivors I would bet were smurfing, because they played like they were red rank survivors, but they were rank 13-20.
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Crossplay will only work if they sort out the PC cheaters first...I mean we already got a glimpse of what happens when they don't.
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PC Cheaters are not as common as you think.
Crossplay will work regardless.
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The only way to achieve a +/- of 6 would have to be ps4/xbox/switch crossplay.
There aren't enough killers on consoles. So the +/- becomes a range of 14 or 15. This range usually feels like being hit by a truck. So they try survivor. They see it's a lot less stressful. They play more survivor. Now there is one less killer and one more survivor.
Even without crossplay, a hard cap of +/- 8 with more wait times would still probably work better. In a sense of health and game population.
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i feel you brotha
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Can someone explain to me what i'm missing with cross platform? I watch streamers play on pc that have the same issue as I see on ps4, which is, long que for survivor and instant for killer. So if there are not enough killers on pc, and not enough killers on console, how is combining the player base going to create more killers?
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I quit playing on PS4 two weeks ago because of this. There are fluctuations in wait times for survivors vs. killers depending on the time of day, but generally, it has gotten really rotten for killers, so I stopped playing. I like playing survivor, but not all the time, and I can't get my dailies done in this situation.
Note to Devs: I think that, like any communication problem, players should be allowed to see the numbers of killers vs sets of four survivors, or even a ratio ( like "right now there are -3000 killers to each set of survivors within 3 ranks of you, or something to that effect) Then everyone could see at any time clearly that there aren't enough killers, and players might choose to play killer for a while. I think it is a communication issue. With everything begin the veil, no one can see the numbers and everyone complains that it is the devs' fault. But I think it would improve if people could actually see the effect that their own numbers have on the game. Right now survivors are being allowed to be more and more selfish, and they can't see the actual effect of their SWF teams on the game.
Here is a good simplified example. When I did ballroom dance, there were two men and four women. If I had chosen to not lead, I would have spent time waiting. This is like a very complicated version of that situation, due to ranks and stuff. It isn't simple, so I think that more responsibility has to be given to the players so they can make decisions.
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I Really want all killers to just quit and let the game die so maybe bhvr can finally learn to not be bias
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Do these people even read the forum? It's like they're surprised this happens and complain like it's new. That said, I'm agreeing that the matchmaking does suck and I wish they would fix it somehow. However, I also think that with any game there is a learning curve. I remember trying to play LoL and getting destroyed. Learning and getting better is part of gaming imo. Playing harder opponents is typical the fastest approach although maybe also the biggest deterrent.
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You just got to deal with it dude. No games are perfect. Yeah it sucks playing with rank 1ns but i'm Sure that's not every game. Keep playing it's a great game.
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It’s also hard because all they do now is gen rush
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You mean they...do their objective?
Complaining that survivors are doing generators as fast as they can is silly. It's their job.
(See, survivors? I am a fair killer! 😉 )
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you get mostly SWFs, as well, because playing solo queues sucks. I know when I SWF my team is majority Red Ranks, but we have low ranks friends who join and then we get new killers because of one person in our team. They get bullied without us even trying.
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It's probably because there are as time goes on less players in higher digit ranks because it's easy to play survivor. So more and more survivors are reaching low digit ranks and lessening the pool for your rank.
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PS4 matchmaking is crap. Killers purposely deranking kinds hurts you too. I come across level 16s with ultra rare and learned perks and strong add-ons pretty regularly and all they want to do is bully the lower ranks.
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This is more towards every post like this in general but: Suck it up, butter cup.
You're a Killer. If you don't like a challenge, maybe survivor is more up your alley. I'm semi-new as well and I've always wanted the best, cockiest survivors. Killing them mercilessly just hits differently.
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Bruh, I feel your pain. This was my last game today. I have a good feeling at least a few of them were SWF too, as my discordance showed yellow gens for pretty much the whole game.
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Yeah unfortunately it's one of DBD charms can't lie I play Predator Hunting Grounds now, I like it more tbh maybe u would too
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Wow! 🤯
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Bruh I always get a match or 2 like that then right after it's back to the same level as me, like I have no clue what there doing but at least they could keep similar levels together, it's to common to be people in parties messing with any algorithm they have in place, hope they fix it
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I know right? I find survivor much easier to level up than killer. Which is why I really have to work hard as killer, especially when even at low ranks I still encounter red rank survivors, cause no one wants to play killer when they can't even do something as simple as matchmaking correctly.
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Matchmaking is always flawed, unfortunately there's nothing too be done about this but either quit killer or just eat the lost games. It's just as bad on PC and console alike.
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Welcome to the world of main killers, yet survivors will cry about "Killers are S T R O N G"
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