The DC Penalty And Why It Isn't Healthy For DBD

/sigh... so many issues with the OP I'm not even sure where to begin:

"The DC penalty, most people have experienced whether it be from exiting a match, losing connection, or the game crashing, but that's just it." - proof that most people have experienced...? Easy to say, now please provide facts to back up this comment.

"The penalty doesn't affect dcing as much as it affects poor connection or the game dying, meaning innocent players will receive bans for unfair reasons." - proof please that dcing affects poor connection or game dying... where innocent (how do you know they are innocent?) players receiving bans....??? facts please.

"Not just that, but the game is in such a 50/50 state that it could almost be considered early access by some."... who? please post your source.

"I mean, the game is stable, but it's foundation is weak"... ah, so you have access to the games code? if not, how can you know that the "foundation is weak"...and what exactly do you mean by weak?

"he penalty should at the very least reset over a period of a week. Or even just go back by one penalty period."... Finally a statement appears to be based on your opinion... I can go with that... why then, should it be a period of a week or back one penalty period...specifically?

"These posts are repetitive, but they pinpoint a huge issue that is plaguing the game, and if it doesn't get fixed, then much of the playerbase (that's even left) will always be left with a "sour taste" in their mouths." OK. So you now speak for "much of the player base"... did you take a poll of much of the player base to know that they'll have a sour taste left in their mouths? Can we all get a chance to see the results of this poll? How else can you know this?

No one knows that its old players returning and not new ones. Technically new players have to come in or the playerbase would always be dropping since not everyone will play a game for hundred or thousands of hours. Games generally only have a certain percentage of overall players who stay for the long haul.

Now if we look at this screenshot of steam it shows over 9k recent reviews. While it doesn't state old or new players it can be taken that a portion would be new. Let's say it's 50% to be objective that's still a decent amount of new players over the time period for an almost 4 year old game and since only a small percentage of players ever leave reviews at all the number should then be even higher overall.

Actually, you can tell. Go to Community Hub, Reviews, Recent reviews, and it lists the hours played by each reviewer at the top of their review post.

It's very easy to tell if a review is made by a new player or a Vet in Steam. Granted, no one in their right mind is going to check all 9k, but you can easily glance at 30-40 reviews in a few minutes.

But it does indicate new or Vet in a sense as well. If I purchased DbD a year ago, but it sat and sat, and finally I fired it up this weekend and played 10 hours of it and then posted a review, I am still a new player.

Likewise, if I purchased it a year ago, played 10 hours then and left it to never launch it again, and just now left a review based on those 10 hours from a year ago, I reviewed it as a new player.

Purchase time doesn't make one a new or old player, a noob or a vet, play time does.

alright fine lets remove the chance to get off the hook and make you sit there and do nothing for 1 minute. then you can't struggle, you have to wait another minute for death to happen. or until the last person on hook gets to stage 2. how about that? sure let people get stuck doing nothing. The have to wait for people they don't know to pull them off the hook. oh they can't then go afk becuase they could be rescued at any time. it would really make this game a great game for everyone. It is reality, there is a chance (I know it's happened for me) to get off the hook and back into the game. but if i don't trust my compatriots will come get me, I'm sure as heck not sticking around. and what difference is it if I am hooked once and left on the hook to death than if i try to get off the hook and fail and not stay in the game? I'll tell you the only differeces: 1) I'm getting no points (thus a waste of my time) and 2) the killer has one less hook to put someone on. oh wait. it's no difference in game play for the other 3 survivors if I'm left on the hook the whole time.

if it is a choice between using something provided in the match versus something outside of match I would prefer people to use the in match functionality. even if they do get off the hook AND, go run to the killer, they waste the killer's time to down them and re-hook them. time the others can spend on the gens. OR they get off and continue playing as normal. who knows, but you don't want to allow that possibility to exist. Keep the DC penalties and accept people will get out of a match but in a way that doesn't punish as hard why? 1) the killer HAS to find them and get rid of them. trust me, if they are standing still long enough they get crows and that gets annoying to the killer so they go take them out so it's not so loud. then the killer has to take them too a hook, and once on the hook the killer has to either walk away or possibly face camp them. now that's not often done but it is a possibility. Finally once the person is removed from the game, the killer is now down a hook and it could be the hook that saves your life because others sabo'd the other hooks in the area so you get to wiggle out of their grip.

I've never been one to DC. Last time I DC'd intentionally was probably over 1-2 months ago. DBD keeps giving me the "disconnected from host" error, it appears that the killer DCs. Then when I go to lobby, low and behold I'm blocked again. It started at 3 minutes, every few games I'd get kicked and blocked, then 14 minutes, then 28 minutes, and when I posted that I had played one game that day and it kicked me and blocked me for 1 hr. You might try listening instead of projecting. It's not like we haven't seen hundreds of bugs already from DBD. As far as I'm aware this might only be a PS4 issue. There are other people having the same problem. It's making the game unplayable, literally.

I prefer to play survivor, and the reason I played killer that time was because it game me the failure to join party error.

Also, since I was playing killer when DBD kicked me, I didn't get a disconnected from host error, it didn't give any error that time.

Don't play match based pvp games if you have a bad connection in the first place? It's not really any less selfish than dcing when things aren't going your way. No one likes playing cs:go, overwatch, or any of a hundred other match based games with or against someone with a poor internet connection.

I play on PS4, so most of those troubleshooting options I don't think apply, or I don't know how. I've contacted BE. The ticket process on PS4 is very time consuming.

That was one game that day that put be into the 1 hour mark. It's not like I just keep playing, when it reached the 15minutes I began walking away from the game, for awhile, or for a day, but it just keeps climbing.

If you mean the PC tutorial bots, no. These are semi-intelligent. There is no real notification when someone disconnects on mobile though. They just "Become a bot".

Even if we had survivor husks (Same concept, but no AI. Rather than becoming a bot and doing stuff they simply suddenly go AFK until sacrified) it'd still be better than what we have now on PC/Console because it eliminates "Tactical" disconnects to screw the killer out of achievements/perk procs, or to give hatch.

Hey sui, if you are who I think you are(old Gears player?)

I don't think a freebie per day is good. I think the server should notice if you disconnected or quit out, maybe account that as the "freebie." I know a lot of people rage quit without thinking, it takes an extra several steps to get up and unplug your router/ethernet cable from the back of your computer, unless you play prepared to DC at any moment.

But that's just another can of worms I'd rather not open. If I DC from a game on accident I usually just take a break, come back later. I think that's a fair thing for everyone to do, but not everyone will do it. And you only get the penalty when you DC after the match starts. I've been disconnected in the loading screen and received no penalty. I find the majority of accidental DC's happen in the loading screen. The majority of DC's in-game are mostly intentional disconnects.

That a fair enough opinion. I don't think I'd mind it, but viewing it from another perspective, I could see how this easily gets abused. One freebie per player, spread across 30,000+ concurrent players.

I agree with you, the game is in such a disgraceful state people should not be punished for disconnecting, even on purpose. EVERYONE is guilty of it and if there is to be a DC penalty it shouldn't span up to 72 hours. The game is ridiculous, filled with bugs, filled with toxic killers & survivors alike also.

A thousand times this. You're responsible for having a stable connection when playing a pvp game.

I'm glad to learn that it was temporarily disabled because I ragequit a game yesterday... It's not something I do often (it was the second time since I started playing this game in December 2019 and I play pretty much every day).

On topic, I have had false positives before and they are annoying, but I have to say the game is in a much better state now than it was before. People used to disconnect all the time... Now there's a disconnect once in every 25 games.

Let's be honest.. how often do you actually "crash" out which gives you a penalty. 99% of the dc's happen when survivor is downed early first 15-20 seconds of the game. It's funny how "crashes" always happen this way.. Now, if your argument will be that "people should be allowed to choose if they want to play or not" That's true, but there are disconnect penalties in other games as well. This is not single player where u can stop playing as you please. Can you imagine playing football with friends and then you quit first 30 seconds of the match? Pretty sure you won't be invited next time.

The ratio of fair to unfair penalties is far more on the side of "fair"

I'd rather have to wait 5 minutes because I lost connection than have crybabies leave because they got downed first, dooming their 3 teammates