SWF

I'm more than fine with it, it's just very hard for many to cope with it due to that even if they play at their best, because survivors don't have to run certain perks aswell as they have communcation, they can survive.

Personally I'm more of a kyf kind of guy, as well as solo and killer.

If you're playing casually in swf then that's great, most people wouldn't find that annoying. Problem is most swf players go out of their way to be toxic. Glad you're not one of them, as we need less of it in the community.

I tried watching him once but was instantly turned away due to his accusatory nature.

To be fair it's a clear minority that insists on laughable pipe dreams like the removal of SWF or outlawing of voice comms. They should be pitied if anything, it can't be nice to be doomed to forever scream fruitlessly into a void that never answers them.

I can imagine SWF indicators after matches as well as BP/XP bonuses for killers (and solo survivors, if you want to throw in some solo incentivization as well), but anything that goes "further" than that seem extremely unlikely to me.

That's not cheating, and it's the key to some peoples enjoyment.

The game wasn't made with comms in mind. The devs maybe to scared to call it cheating because they don't want to piss off survivors but it is cheating. Its an unfair advantage that the gane isn't balanced for its literary bringing a gun to a knife fight.

I hate it too mate. Just think to yourslef why people play in a swf. Maybe when you play solo survivor at red ranks and see how bad some of them are then you'll understand why I want to play with actual good players. I played solo on sunday and I won't ever again lol imagine getting hooked, then seeing the other 3 survivors using urban evasion on the other side of the rotten fields map.

People assume you play swf so you can share information about where the killer is or totem locations. Yes that helps but people really play swf because it's the only way to guarantee good teammates.

Then they'll complain about bully swf teams for all running a sabo builds or everyone uses head-on. Well we find it more fun running builds like that than gen rush you using DS, Unbreakable and Dead Hard.

No one is saying communication is cheating its just a huge advantage you have over the killer. Imagine playing league of legends or counter strike and only 1 team get to communicate.

Umm, no. All you are doing is trying too get a hate train started because you don't like the dude. Watching Tru3 and being upset about SWF has nothing too do with each other. Plus Tru3 isn't even a killer main, he plays both sides equally. Sorry mate but they have nothing in common lol.

You don't have too like Tru3, but don't make up lies too try and insult him, criticize him for his actual mistakes, otherwise you just look silly and makes your arguments invalid.

Like Tru3 I play both sides, and I did like him when I started. Then I got to Red ranks as killer, and although he's a much better player than me, I started disagreeing with his mentality. Whenever he loses as a killer, the sole reason was swf. He has occasionally says otherwise, but rarely.

Also I'm not making this up, and alot of people agree with me. He can take a loss as a survivor, but as a killer it's a rare occurrence.

Not every killer watches Tru3 lol. So again, correlation is not causation. If you don't like tru3 then that's fine, but he has nothing too do with how people view SWF. Stop making things up too try and hate train the dude. go too reddit and make a post about Tru3 if you want, I don't care, but don't make up random things that have nothing too do with each other simply because you don't like the dude lol.

That has nothing too do with SWF though lol. There are many killers who don't watch or like Tru3 and still feel that SWF is an issue. Correlation is not causation. Feelings aren't facts my friends, don't make statements without them.

Im fine with SWFstaying in the game. The developers need to address the fact that there is a large groups of players playing in SWF and balance the game accordingly though. For starters, I dont think the burst of speed survivors get after their first hit should be as big as it is. Ive noticed that a new play style is emerging where SWF teams are literally running in a straight line, holding W as far as possible away from gens and making the chase take as long as possible, not by looping or skill, but just by how long it takes for the killer to catch up. Then while this chase is being done their teammates will jump on the gen they were just on and finish it by the time the chase is ended and survivor hooked. Now, with the way that the game is now, if you arent gonna be a tunneling little bit**, then you are going to need at the least 9-10 hooks to end the game, probably 8 at the least. Do the math. If every SWF starts playing this way it is going to be very very hard to get 3k or 4 k as killer. If you have to run a perk (save the best for last) just to balance the game, then there is a problem. The devs need to balance the game as if there are SWF's. Right now they are just ignoring the elephant in the room that they are. Like I said, I dont mind SWF's, and I play killer probably 80% of the time. I also almost only play solo que too so I know the pain that is solo que. There just needs to be more recognition by behavior in how much they are really being used. I will check when i think it was a SWF and am almost always right when I think it is. Its not hard to pick out.

ok, here was my post last summer about a mechanic i was thinking would work....

What would you think if comms were proximity based? This could be something where when talking near the killer the killer could get a notification. It would be a way to actually balance comms and talking too much could be detrimental. There could be comm based perks, but that wouldn't be essential. Still though, think of all of the possibilities...further range, closer proximity for the killer to get notification, etc.. Use your imagination. Like i said though the perk idea wouldn't be essential. Most of the blow back I've heard about why this would be a bad idea is based around it being an easy way to bully the killer or other players. The simple solution to that would be an option to turn it off as survivor and play as is now if those problems occur when playing survivor. When playing as killer there could be just a simple notification when people are on comms and within a pre-determined proximity to you. This is something I think the devs would be able to work out to find the best balance. Then there would be no need to worry about bullying killer, as killer can already be bullied in the same ways using notifications and other interactions that are already in the game and the comms idea would add no new interactions outside of the notifications and how they are already in game.

Another knock against this idea is that "people would just play comms the same way they do now." which is a possibility I don't deny. If the game had no way of muting the mic when one was connected to the game system it would also solve this. So, if you are playing DBD and have your mic on, you would be subject to this, even if you were also using a third party comm software. People would essentially have to have a comm system not connected to the console or PC to get away with it and that would deter that type of thing. If using a 3rd party comm system, yes, they would have unlimited range, but the killer would still get a notification when near someone speaking into their mic. That wouldn't change, and there is a way to do that. It would be a little more powerful for survivors using current comms then the idea I'm posing, but that is already available and having a notification for killer WOULD add more balance anyway you look at it.

I just ask you to think about this, and please behaviour, do the same. The idea may need some tweaks, Im not suggesting it is perfect. There is a ton of potential for growth with this though... including: ideas for perks, ideas for killer types (adds a whole new dimension on how new killers could be designed and I have some great ideas here for licensed killers using this), more balance, more fun.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. I am sorry if it is long winded, but it is something I have been thinking about for a while and I wanted to hear what others thought about it. Please, I ask you, when playing as either killer or survivor, think of the possibilities of something like this and how it could add to the enjoyment of your game play while also thinking of possible applicable areas it could be used and post them to this thread. I would appreciate hearing all of your ideas. If you have problems that would occur with this, also post them. There are no bad discussions on this.

Swf is fine I just played two and was making them sweat with Trapper and Clown. If you're good killer who can down quick Swf isn't a problem