Predict the next Chapter

I empathize with you, brother.

None of the above (share your prediction)

I'm going wildcard, Hannibal Lecter because Anthony Hopkins is Welsh and the codename is Wales (I know codename is probably nothing to do with the actual killer)

It's cool to see the terminator show up in a poll, people don't realize it but the exoskeleton of the Terminator actually showed up as a playable skin in BHVR's (unfortunately) failed DeathGarden which combined elements of Dead By Daylight and shooter games.

So technically, BHVR as a company, have worked with whoever owns the terminator license before, it's possible they could work with them again. Not saying they should or even that they would, I'm just saying, it's hypothetically possible.

But yeah no, I'm still waiting on Candyman, Pennywise, Pinhead, like everyone else. And then after those big three the Xenomorph, Predator, and less likely but "hey here's hoping": Jason and Chucky.

IM WITH YOU BROTHER

I'm going to disagree, and say that a T-800 does fit into DBD if they want it to. The game is all about introducing new things and new unique concepts, an example being the Demogorgon. The first non-human killer who opened the door to other ones such as the highly requested Xenomorph, which back in the day, people argued heavily against it. And even today they still do, although it would be vastly different to most of the killers on the roster and Sci-fi-horror chapters won't stop that. An android(yes, James Cameron, an android not a cyborg lol) like the T-800 would do what the Demogorgon did. Create uniqueness and a new variation.

You mention how the T-800's whole shtick is using lethal weaponry and that it won't fit the pace of DBD. But I would also disagree and say that he doesn't need to have that kind of power to be scary or to remain true to the character as shown in the films. People would associate that kind of thing more to Judgment Day and Rise of the Machines where it gets reasonably more action and loses its horror aspect. How intimidating was it to see a lumbering, weaponless T-800 coming after Sarah and Kyle in the first film just as the endo-skeleton and busting through a steel door, or chasing them in the Tech-Noir alleyway? Personally reminded me of Michael Myers and Laurie Strode and remains one of the most, if not the most, iconic scene of T1 to this day. Or how a bare-handed, intimidating/hulking T-800 came after John Connor and Marcus in Salvation? Or heck, even in Genisys when it battles another older T-800 model in the opening scene and then comes after Kyle later on. The Arnold-bot is fully capable of remaining iconic and true to it's nature without lethal stuff. It's like saying a Xenomorph's core aspects and fear factor would removed if it couldn't climb and scale walls, although Alien Isolation proved that to be completely wrong. Then again, if that REALLY is a big problem for the T-800 there is always a lower-watt plasma rifle that you could give him(which I don't agree with).

While a T-1000 sounds cool in theory, there are slight problems. Firstly, Judgement Day isn't considered horror by any stretch. That movie is where the Terminator franchise started to move towards complete action-scifi rather than the original which was more in the scifi/horror/action area. Moving on from that, there is a bit of a lore issue with the T-1000. He was specifically made to terminate a YOUNG John Connor and prevent him from becoming the leader of the Resistance in the first place. T-1000's cannot be reprogrammed, not even by Skynet (which was a reason they feared them.) It's kinda the reason why the T-1000 was sent back in 2029 just before the Resistance defeated Skynet. There would be no reason for it to go after an adult John Connor seen in the opening of T2, and therefore it would not include a survivor. It just would not feel natural to have a T-1000 roaming around and going against it's mission unlike a T-800 who has been programmed to be either "good"(T2,T3) or "evil" (T1, Salvation, or the model from Genisys).

At the end of the day, the face of the franchise will always be Arnold/the T-800. It would draw in more people and the matter of him fitting or not is opinion-based. As a fan of Terminator, I say they can easily make him fit better than any other Terminator model.

I don't think you'd do disservice to either. Sure, Robert Patrick's performance was great but so was Arnold's. Think about it from a fan's perspective and a business standpoint. The T-800 would be the one that fills the spot as your typical, not to mention iconic, robot/android throughout media. Do more people know the T-800 or the T-1000 from first glance? Arnold or Robert? As Kyle mentioned in the first movie, the Terminator feels no pity or remorse or fear. It will stop at nothing until you are dead. That is where the horror aspect of the Terminator first began, not from the movie sequel that came like 6-7 years after. Not to mention this iconic scene:

Terminator 2 was vastly regarded and labeled as a sci-fi action movie. Terminator 1 was considered and labeled by majority to be sci-fi horror due to its vast plot similarities to Halloween. In fact, if you type in "Terminator genre" on Google, one of the tags is horror as oppose to "Terminator 2 genre" which won't have any of that. Granted, there are sites that don't list the tag such as Wikipedia or IMDB which can be sometimes edited by fans, they usually list the primary tags. Same with Predator that people requested a lot before Hunting Grounds was a thing. When a movie doesn't have anything to back up it's tie to a specific genre or a majority of people who would agree on it, then it's simply not that genre.

It wouldn't disqualify it since it's based on opinion. You first disqualified the T-800 and I retorted with why I thought your opinion is wrong in accordance to my own. I don't think a small guy who has similar powers to The Thing would be as scary as a hulking bodybuilder with maybe have his face torn off exposing a robotic endoskeleton(you see how it can go both ways based on opinion?). Cuz why not just add The Thing itself? In fact, I would say Terminator Salvation has more horror elements to it than Judgement Day. This is more horror to me than anything from T2, now imagine comparing T2 to T1:

No, I don't consider that T2 scene horror because the movie itself isn't horror or even in the vein of it. Other people might agree that it has horror ELEMENTS in it, but that's not nearly enough to qualify it as an official horror. Some cartoons have "scary" characters, does that mean they could be added? No, just like I don't think any "villain" other than a T-800 would fit that criteria or be iconic enough. Schwarzenegger is far more associated with the franchise and is also considered to be a horror villian(T1). That is more than enough for BHVR to consider him over a T-1000 which wouldn't sell nearly as well or be as recognizable. There is a reason why MK11 chose Arnold over something like a Rev-9 or T-1000, and no, it was not just because of Dark Fate/promotion for it.

Btw also from the Wiki:

"In Terminator 2 Judgement Day, the T-1000 (Patrick) is sent by Skynet back in time to kill a young John Connor, the future leader of the Human Resistance against Skynet. The T-1000 ambushes a Los Angeles Police Department police officer on arrival and takes on his identity, tracking down John Connor through the police cruiser's on-board computer and eventually confronting him in a shopping mall. As it prepares to kill John, a T-800 Model 101 sent by the Resistance to protect John shows up to engage it. Following a brief scuffle and a lengthy car chase, the T-800 and John escape from the T-1000. It returns to John's foster home and takes the place of his foster mother, Janelle Voight, intending to wait for John to return, but John calls ahead and the T-800 is able to confirm that the T-1000 has infiltrated the house when it incorrectly names John's dog."

It says so in the same Wiki that its primary focus was to kill a young John. We've canonically never seen the T-1000 making it's own decisions because it always followed the order Skynet gave it anyway. For what we've seen, it has no reason to comply with an entity to go after other survivors. What will it get in return? A promise of a young John Connor handed to him on a silver platter? Having a T-1000 chase someone like Sarah would be essentially retconning the lore of the T-1000 to what its original purpose was in T2.

Not just the fear factor, but in terms of being iconic and better from a business/marketing standpoint. You won't see other Terminator models associated with other any other game feature something that's different from a T-800/T-850. Maybe not in Arnold's likeness, although still the same model. Now, if a T-1000 were to copy the T-800 model, then it really wouldn't be a T-1000 at that point then, now would it? It would imitate the same stature and abilities to the T-800, so there's no point to that if you were being serious.

You could say the same thing with ANY killer and even the T-1000, technically. Look for a man in a white mask in the case of Myers or Ghostface, or a buff guy in the Trapper. There is absolutely no reason you would be scared of Robert Patrick making weapons with arms more than a hulking T-800/Arnold Schwarzenegger. We know the concept of survivor imitation would be hard countered by SWFs, and him imitating other killers would make the rest of them obsolete. A T-1000 wouldn't realistically have anything that would make him stand out more than something more iconic to the franchise aka T-800. Again, just add The Thing and give him an ability similar to the T-1000 and watch him become useless. People would associate the T-800 more to the horror movie that he was originally from. An android more powerful than any other killer thus far based on movie feats and the most popular.

The threat was a relentless, remorseless A.I. hunting down a pair like Myers hunts down Laurie. You state your opinion when you say the T-800's abilities wouldn't be adapted well into DBD. There are options in how you could make him work ranging from cybernetic scans, to brute force, to even a lower watt plasma rifle. Lack of creativity is not mutual when it comes to the developers and BHVR. I say that a T-1000 wouldn't fit and wouldn't be adapted well either as a Terminator fan because his abilities would be countered and wouldn't be as frightening.

Yes, please show me examples of the "plethora of application" regarding the T-1000. Something that won't be countered, something that will be scary to make up for Robert's stature compared to Arnold's, and something that won't make him imitate other killers. It doesn't exist man, trust me as a Terminator fan. Shifting and body morphing won't translate well, just look at The Thing concepts.

Both Ash vs Evil Dead and Left4Dead are literally listed as horror.. Ash vs Evil dead being tagged as comedy-horror and Left4Dead being tagged as survival horror. Just like Terminator 1 has a horror tag to it as well unlike T2 which again has none of that. That point is bunkum unfortunately.

You did make yourself clear. You were just incorrect. We don't deal with what-if storylines, we deal with canonically accurate depictions. What if "The Pig" became good was a survivor in DBD? The T-1000 showed no intentions of giving in to deals and reasons at that point in time, it had a primary objective. And correction, the T-1000 COULD become self-aware, and it did not to because it fought to complete its mission till the end. Those "screams" at the end weren't of pain as machines cannot "feel" pain the same way humans do. It was the distorted sounds of a machine glitching out while succumbing to hot temperatures while ultimately perishing. Throw in a singing animatronic into water or lava. You'll still hear the sound of singing, but will distort as it begins to break down, potentially resulting in a sound like screams. Even the T-800 said it registers pain differently, you think an upgraded model wouldn't?

And I'll post my same quote: ""In Terminator 2 Judgement Day, the T-1000 (Patrick) is sent by Skynet back in time to kill a young John Connor, the future leader of the Human Resistance against Skynet." In yours it says a T-1000 CAN act contrary to Skynet's orders, but here's the thing it never did and clearly refused to. It could've disobeyed Skynet's orders and lived a normal life, but it wouldn't. His objective was John and nothing else. DBD will not retcon this and say he finally went against his orders and went against everything he stood for in T2.

I felt that.

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You keep mentioning this point that Arnold Schwarzenegger is far more iconic and better from a marketing perspective, however you fail to consider just how difficult and expensive it would probably be to get a hold of his likeness. (Actually I think you did mention it previously but only passively and very briefly, something you quickly glossed over and never really brought up again so might as well have failed to mention it). This is an absolutely game-changing and indisputable fact in this conversation, Robert Patrick's character not only matches the tone and vision of Dead By Daylight but is simply far easier to get a hold of and make a deal with.

Sure Dead By Daylight has Ash Williams who is a tried and true proven actor of capability and known celebrity. I will stand by Bruce Campbell as an extremely well respected, distinguished actor and it's amazing they actually got a hold of him to voice his own character in Dead By Daylight. However, I don't think it needs to be said that Bruce Campbell is no Arnold Schwarzenegger. The very obvious distinction between the two being their net worth: Bruce Campbell is estimated to be worth 10 million which is absolutely nothing to be sneered at, he is undoubtedly successful, but Schwarzenegger is worth an entire 400 million dollars.

By comparison, Robert Patrick is much more in line with Bruce Campbell's status and level of success, who has a net worth of around 12 million. Just 2 off from Campbell, rather than the difference 390 of Schwarzenegger.

Likewise, DBD has very clearly steered clear of working with high-profile celebrities much like Schwarzenegger, most obviously: they never acquired the likeness for Laurie Strode's actress Jamie Lee Curtis. They couldn't secure Eric Matthews for their Saw chapter played by Donnie Wahlberg so they opted to incorporate Danny Glover's Detective Tapp who died in the first movie of an 8 movie franchise and getting a 9th installment in 2020, they were not able to get Robert Englund who is known worldwide for his role as the original iconic Freddy Krueger instead being forced to settle for the 2010 reboot Freddy played by Jackie Earle Haley, and they could not even get a hold of fresh on the scene actor & actress Joe Keery + Natalia Dyer to voice their characters Steve and Nancy from the popular new series Stranger Things for reasons that are still withheld from us to this day.

You might say "well both the Terminator license and Schwarzenegger likeness were able to come to Mortal Kombat 11 why not DBD?" and the answer to that is also self-evident. Mortal Kombat 11 was developed by NetherRealm Studios and while obviously that company is no Ubisoft or Bethesda, the roots and heritage of that company run deep in the gaming industry all the way back to the first Mortal Kombat released in 1992, and if that weren't enough, guess who owns NetherRealm Studios and Published Mortal Kombat 11? Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment the video game division of Warner Bros. Home Entertainment inc. the entertainment giant worth 5 Billion with a capital "B" dollars dollars. So yeah, I think it's safe to say they have "just a little bit" greater access to a wider range of resources than Behaviour.

This is damning evidence for your side and you know it as well as I do that it may as well be fantasy. And it pains me to speak about DBD in what comes fairly close to a negative light especially that second to last paragraph, but it's just facts. However, it's important to know that even despite this lack of resources Behaviour Interactive have done an incredible job at creating a fun and addicting game, with compelling lore, unique characters that combine elements of both new and familiar content, that is bursting at the seams with creativity in the horror genre.

And that's something I think is important to know and realize, that even despite being an underdog Dead By Daylight has made do with the hand that it was dealt and the characters it could secure in the game. It's done a pretty good job so far. A T-800 may not be feasible or even plausible but a T-1000 (which in my opinion is most certainly deserving of being "the superior model" and is way more scary and cool but I digress) comes pretty damn close. Close to the story that so many fans have come to know and love, the characters, the capability, etc.

And I'll be honest, there's so much more I want to say about the T-1000, how it could work, how it is far more unique an addition to the cast of DBD than the T-800, how the lore could be twisted in such a way that would allow the character to fit properly (you don't think other characters that the DBD community wants doesn't have their own problems or conflicts than lore? Hell, #########' Pennywise one of the most requested killers and we know for a fact Mathieu Cote's [Game Director] dream killer to have in the game technically creates lore problems, since "It" according to the books is a kind of cosmic entity much like the Entity in DBD) however I'm not going to do that. Simply because I would rather at some point reach some kind of compromise or "agree to disagree" instead of perpetually going on and on about two killers that may never see the moon of DBD ever. I also think you know as well as I do that it takes time and energy to write these paragraphs length responses

And I also think that the OP doesn't appreciate the kind of / sort of derailing of this thread we've singlehandedly caused (although The Terminator was mentioned in the poll options, so is it really derailing? Ehhhhhh *tilts hand side to side in "so-so" fashion*)

So let me just say this, while I do have a personal preference for the T-1000 (just watch Fact Fiends youtube videos on it honestly and that would be my whole shpeal) I do think the T-800 is pretty cool, I don't play Mortal Kombat but when I saw gameplay I thought it was super cool and badass. In much the same way that the T-800 was featured as a playable character in Mortal Kombat I'd like to see the T-1000 get its spot in the limelight and I think Dead By Daylight would be the perfect place for it.

Especially considering numerous different factors, from accessibility to the actor, to the versatility and thus various options for a killer power (BEYOND being able to shape-shift into survivors), how it's especially unique from the rest of the DBD cast (Surface level comparison: how many killers do we have that don't wear a mask and their face is in "perfect" / normal condition? The answer to that is more or less zero, excluding the possibility of Candyman in the future), it creates the first Sci Fi Horror chapter for DBD (If the Xenomorph and / or Predator have not made it in by then) and so on and so forth.

And again, there's more I want to say but I'm kind of forcing myself to cut myself off here and create some kind of amicable conclusion to this conversation.

I was hoping your response would be a shorter more concluding-type thing but after reading through I just feel obligated to retort.

• "Arnold's likeness may be difficult to obtain" is most definitely the wrong word to use here, it's not "may" it is this is an indisputable fact. The guy is worth 400 million and you think he's going to lend out his likeness to any company? Yeah it's still "within the realm of possibility" but "the realm of possibility is a massively broad concept that obviously includes the T-1000 just as much as the T-800, so it's hardly a favorable position to argue. It's like saying "it's possible to find a needle in a haystack" sure, but are you really going to bet on those odds? Absolutely not.
• I am not saying anything of the sort I am using Bruce Campbell as a comparable metric to weigh the likelihood of being able to get Arnold. If Campbell is the biggest name that BHVR currently has attached to the game then it's only fair and reasonable to base other potential future content around the level of name-recognition or popularity. Yes, it is a fact that Bruce Campbell has set a maximum standard for what Dead By Daylight can achieve and how much buying / negotiating power they have. This is not an "I think" statement this is a more than reasonable assessment based on previous evidence.
  • Yes, it is possible there is a range around this, obviously this is not a static maximum cap of "we can only work with people worth 10 million dollars" and it is certainly possible they can work with bigger names than Bruce, but again that's painting a broad stroke with a broad brush "within the realm of possibility" that whole statement hinges on a "might" statement which isn't actually reasonable or substantiated logic.
• No, this was confirmed by someone on the dev team themselves Detective Eric Matthews was their original choice and "it didn't work out" was all they said about it. Also have you heard Steve's voice? I remember Bricky once said he sounds like a godd*mn opera singer, and I don't care how good they look if they don't sound the part that's not the character. That's like saying "Morgan Freeman is a character that shows up in X movie / show, but he's voiced by Gilbert Gottfried" (the parrot from f*cking Aladdin)
• Yes, a bigger budget helps negotiate deals. Are you going to dispute that?
• I already explained how I used Bruce Campbell as a "comparable metric" again, my argument is based on as much facts and logic as possible hence why, for example, I took the time to research and explain the net worth of all these individuals. Their net worth is not a matter of "my opinion" that's an actual number written in a bank account statement somewhere in the world. You could say the meat of that comment was dedicated to a kind of statistical analysis of the people that BHVR has worked with in the past, what they have been able to achieve, and how far removed Schwarzenegger is from all of that. Again that is not an "I think statement" that is logical reasoning and judgement.
• Are you really gatekeeping The Terminator fandom? Really?
• He's clearly not unpopular, since again, I'll keep citing Fact Fiend since there's no reason not to, Karl Smallwood loves the T-1000 even more than he loves the T-800 due to expanded universe content beyond the films such as the comics, and other related media. Who's the inferior Terminator Fan now?
• Are you really telling me THIS ISN'T INTIMIDATING?

Fun fact, the entire reason that Robert Patrick got the role of the T-1000 at all was because James Cameron was going through all of the audition tapes and "Robert Patrick was the only one who actually scared me so he got the role" so I call bullsh*t on "Robert Patrick isn't intimidating" because he is, just in a much different way than Arnold would be. I'm sorry, but not even Schwarzenegger can make a face like that, and some random guy on the street gave you that look you would know to steer #########' clear.

and what did he do in his audition? He literally stared into the camera with that level of intensity for 5 minutes.

• Yes, we shall see indeed.

I'm gradually decreasing the length of my answers here, (or at least making the effort to) so I hope that doesn't go unnoticed

• I'm going to point out that you have about as much knowledge about BHVR's budget as I do, that kind of a point is a two-way street and you equally have no idea how high their budget actually goes and whether it matches a "Schwarzenegger standard". The difference being, your whole point hinges entirely on a "maybe, possibly" form of logic, whereas I am using actual evidence of prior events that have indeed truthfully occurred to create a somewhat reasonable inference as a basis for my point. Not "assumptions, opinions" or "I think" statements.
  • I don't know how else I can put that, I'm trying not to be harsh but your whole point is so sloppily cobbled together you even took my statement describing "the realm of possibility" as me agreeing with you. You'd have to stretch my stance incredibly far to get to that point, especially since my analogy was betting on the odds of "finding a needle in a haystack"
  • To put it more clearly your whole proposition is an argument from ignorance, or "appeal to ignorance" (ignorance in this case being "a lack of contrary evidence"). Which is in itself a fallacy in informal logic, asserting that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false, resulting in a false positive. You say I cannot entirely disprove the possibility that BHVR could ever successfully negotiate with Schwarzenegger therefore making it possible, but I say you can neither prove this fact either. Making your whole point null and void.
• Nobody here on these forums is more aware of how successful Dead By Daylight is than me (a figure of speech, not an actual proving point) I've been playing, enjoying, and supporting the game since 2016 and I am well aware of how immensely and exponentially DBD has grown in that time and what they've been able to accomplish. I am simply trying to maintain a somewhat reasonable and realistic view of the subject matter, which is that Schwarzenegger is more than likely a celebrity beyond the reach of a smaller company like BHVR.
  • BHVR isn't God, it's not like they can do anything and everything, they have limitations and it's important to recognize them, setting your expectations up to the highest standard possible will only ever make you liable to be let down. Again, it's also important recognize that within the boundaries of those limitations BHVR and the dev team have been able to accomplish great things.
• Then why did they hire Bruce Campbell? Obviously they needed to work with him to be able to use the actor's likeness, but if it would have been cheaper just to have one of the dev team voice the character why didn't they? Because according to your logic it would have been a "waste of money" otherwise, yet still they did it. So why not treat equally popular characters and if anything more relevant characters in the modern year with the same amount of respect and utmost care for quality?
  • Despite the lengthy history of the Evil Dead franchise that Ash Vs Evil Dead hails from, it is undeniable that Stranger Things was a more popular show. Case in point, season 2 was left on a cliffhanger setting up and teasing the plotline for Season 3 which would have been set in a dystopian "Mad Max" like future but the show was canceled before that could ever happen. Similarly the end of season 2 for Stranger Things left on a cliffhanger that functioned in much the same way the difference being the show will actually get to see its third season (after the pandemic probably) and we have already seen trailers for it.
• Your neighbor must be pretty scary.
• The only thing that's scary about that image is the terrible CGI / special effects
• "The feelings of one person"? That's the #########' director we're talking about, the guy who had a vision for the entire story and what the characters should and should not look like, how intimidating the characters really were etc. Judgement day was more or less a perfect sequel (which I think we all know is INCREDIBLY difficult to pull off considering the reputation of most sequels) but I assume if it were left up to you the antagonist we would have gotten would have been a guy "bigger" and "badder" than Arnold to face off against. Which 1. would have looked absolutely ridiculous and exaggerated for a robot designed for "infiltration" and 2. would have been extremely boring and does not set up any stakes whatsoever "who can punch harder? Throw more lead into the other guy? Look more badass walking from explosions? grrrr"
  • Yeah, people think of Arnold, because he was cast for the first freakin' movie!! The original, everybody remembers the first movie much like how everybody remembers the first Shrek or Nightmare on Elm Street or the kid who had to present his powerpoint first in class. That doesn't actually make his performance any more incredible it only makes it more memorable, what is actually incredible is Robert Patrick actually living up to the legend and knocking it out of the park. That is arguably far more impressive, because Arnold Schwarzenegger set a bar, created a standard, and Robert Patrick a guy who people had probably never heard of and possibly never heard from again actually lived up to it, contributing to the memory of a perfect sequel.
  • Again, that circles back around to that idea of giving the T-1000 it's time in the limelight, which apparently despite how "big of a Terminator Fan" you are, you don't want that. Let's just see the same T-800 over, and over, and over again playing the same old shtick of being a normal robot with a metal endoskeleton disguised as a guy with big muscles. Over the one literally made of liquid metal, which nobody has ever heard of imagined in such a way. Well that's frankly boring I say.

• Yes we shall see indeed.

Your answers are still the same, anyway:

You first assumed based on nothing that they wouldn't have the budget to afford an actor more popular that Bruce Campbell. You first presumed the notion that you knew more about BHVR's budget and what they are willing to go for when you have no idea. You have presented no evidence backing up your point of them not being able to go for bigger fish in the sea. They have Bruce Campbell on board, that is not guaranteed to be their "maximum standard." If you don't think you are assuming what their budget is and what is restricts them from reaching for, then I don't know what to tell you. Your entire arguments are based on assumptions when you are not an intern at the company. All for what? Nothing, because you will get nothing out of saying "no" just because you prefer another character. Provide me some evidence that relies on word of mouth and not baseless assumptions. "If the most expensive person is X, then they have no way of reaching for Y".

I too, felt the same about your points this entire thread that will get you nowhere ultimately. They are opinions based on ignorance and assumptions. I also said that Arnold and the T-800 are possible. You technically agreed with me when you mentioned the realm of possibility. I don't agree with your desire for the T-1000 because I know it is CURRENTLY out of the realm of possibility. Again, you could not prove how your character would work lore-wise, you have not shown how he would be different to the The Thing, or why they would go for him when they can just go for a T-800 endoskeleton which the company already licensed from StudioCanal for their other game in DeathGarden.

This is ironic, because that same logic applies to you. In fact, it should, since you first tried to turn the whole idea of a character that would be the only one that they would license and the only one that would fit into this game. You assert that something cannot be done because it has not been done yet. With a growing company, your idea of turning down something is down-right hypocritical. You don't see me saying that same thing when I turn down your desire for your character that I think will never be in the game for all the right reasons.

I have also been supporting and watching this game since beta, granted I have not played since that long though because I was unable. And the way this company and game has been growing it is likely that they will reach for new heights. And with Schwarzenegger's involvement in other game projects, it is not out of the realm of possibility for BHVR to reach a new height and obtaining his likeness. Not that it is required for a T-800, but would be preferable to many.

No one is saying BHVR is God, nor is anyway saying that they don't have a limit. That is a strawman fallacy. They always for for bigger and badder and eventually who knows what will happen in the future. The problem with your argument is that you turn a character that you 'think" won't come into the game for a character which for SURE will not come to the game as long as their is a horror-genre standard, a lore standard, ability standard, etc. Maybe I didn't make myself clear when I presented the example of them getting bigger in the licensing field. From a different looking Laurie Strode, to ACTUALLY Bruce Campbell all the way to the Stranger Things actor/actress. If they want to one day reach for Schwarzenegger with how their game is going, it is very well possible. Just a matter of if.

Because they didn't want another Laurie Strode/Quentin Smith situation where they were unable to obtain the likeness as oppose to Bruce Campbell who has a unique face to match his Ash character. That should be obvious. Ash's voice is also something unique to the character unlike Steve and Nancy who aren't remembered for their one-liners. No reason for them to have cheesy lines in a pre-game lobby, has little or nothing to do with budget. A little off tangent here, but there are rumors for Tony Todd to voice Candyman(if he comes to the game.) Why? The character is synonymous for what he says the the movie.

See the point above as evidence. The characters in a bigger franchise aren't required to voice their grunts or one liners if they aren't synonymous with it. Ash Williams is, his voice is iconic. BHVR tried something new and it worked out.

He's not really. He's just a middle-aged nice fellow with a family. From first glance, he could be someone you walk up to strike a small conversation with him. Now if my neighbor looked a jacked as Arnold with a straight Terminator face, I would be a bit more reluctant.

I feel like there is a joke about Genisys in there somewhere but probably not. I'll allow it but it would still look intimidating by DBD standards unlike your friend Robert imo.

He is one person despite his status. There are writers of the series who probably wouldn't agree with him. Still, that doesn't mean he views the T-1000 as the scariest thing he has ever written into screen. You know what he thinks was the SCARIEST character from the entire franchise? Tell me, I'm curious. You don't know how a sequel without Robert Patrick would've went either. How do you know if they chose a different actor the movie would do worse? Think about how it was marketed and how the general audience found out about it in the first place. And why they were so interested. Surely it had nothing to do with Arnold, right? HMMM

What's your point here? Sure Robert is great, but his status is nowhere near Arnold's. You could say Arnold did it better with the entire franchise as people loved T1, and some even liked Salvation and Rise of the Machines. Should we also have Kristanna Loken from T3 in the game for her great performance? I'm sure a lot of people find a lot of things great with T3.

Oh relax, I only said I'm a Terminator fan once or twice, don't stick to it. Fine if it makes you happy, as a "watcher" of the Terminator movies, I see a lot of things more wrong with the T-1000 fitting DBD than a T-800 fitting. Plus in the aspect of the licensing itself. If it ain't Arnold, it's still a T-800. I don't see a non-horror movie villain in the game who has similar counter able abilities to The Thing. Just add The freakin Thing.Guess it's gonna be another few weeks of arguing pointlessly.

Yeah now the poll doesnt make sense but was really hoping for candyman or pennywise.

i hope in an original chapter, not a licensed one. yeah it is cool to see iconic Killers come to DbD but i still think that original creations will be always better

I'm not predicting but I reckon it will be someone else. Maybe a Mack & Me chapter. Who knows.