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You're Overthinking!
As a Fashion Designer. I say majority of you are overthinking the whole cosmetics contest. And it's getting a little out of hand. Yes, I agree that you are entitled to feel about it however you like. I'm only shedding some light.
Just because a cosmetics that you really liked didn't win, doesn't mean you go around crapping on the winners cosmetics. I find that distasteful. It's bad enough that as artist we are afraid to share our work because afraid of being judge.
Overall, I've read either
- I've seen this in real life a million times
- I don't see this character wearing this or making this.
THIS IS NOT PROJECT RUNWAY / DBD NEXT TOP DESIGNER. IT'S DEAD BY DAYLIGHT.
- You may have see it a million times in real life but that doesn't stop it from being implemented in the game.
- We as a community have projected our own vision on how we may see the characters. That does not make it valid. You may see Claudette as this sweet innocent girl who just like flowers. However, there could be more to her that we have yet to find out about. And far as seeing a character making something that's ridiculous. They don't need to know how to make it.
I know in the lore it says "Claudette is not outgoing" that still doesn't take away that maybe claudette ordered this, tried it own, and never had the courage to wear it in public
or
She like hip hop music and we don't know
or or or
The possibility is endless. RELAX!
Fashion is an expression of art.
These designers won fair and square.
Maybe in the future the developers can pick the final four for each side and let the community vote on it. I personally like how it's being done now. They didn't have to do this again.
Thank you devs for this cosmetic contest. Hopefully next time, I participate and not get the deadline mixed up lol
Once, again congrats to these lovely winners. 😍🤑🤗
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Thank you for this, it always saddens me when people attack the winners of the contests because their favorite one didn't win.
With thousands of entries it gets harder and harder to choose a winner, thanks to the amazing artworks the community manages to create every time and i think these two outfits are great and they deserve our congratulations and respect for all the amazing work and effort put into them.
In general a shoutout and a big thank you to all the participants for creating such amazing and creative cosmetics!
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I couldn’t agree more, I love it when there is a skin that doesn’t show a certain part of a characters personality, it shows that they are human and they can be who the want, not just the one personality that is assigned to them
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While i dont really like the skin, im not gonna go hate on the creator like some people
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This is a straw man, a lot of people don't like the Claudette skin for reasons other than their favorite didn't win. The main one I've seen is the issue of sexism and how a lot of the female cast of dbd are displayed. It makes some uncomfortable and others angry at the objectification. personally for me I have no horse in that race and actually like the skin, but then again I'm a guy who drools over daddy Meyers and ultimate good boy Demogorgon, so I'm probably not the best person to ask about sexual objectification.
I have also seen others criticize that the contest is unfairly leaning towards those who are artistically inclined, a few have argued that the contest excludes more people than it includes because its a trend that only well done art is chosen. They argue that the contest should be inclusive to anyone who wants to enter and that even if its not the most pretty of art that if the concept is good should be viable to win, something we have seen as not the case.
Overall the complaints aren't just coming from people who didn't get their favorite skin but those who actually have valid concerns and those reasons shouldn't be ignored which is what has been happening as I have yet to see any mod or dev acknowledge these criticism.
Also my submission of Demogorgon in a thong didn't get picked and I'm real mad ;)
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Yeah even some of those are ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with showing some skin or being covered fully. It's how you view things. I think people just need to stop sexualizing things and it wouldn't be a problem. A person should be able dress the way they want. Therefore the characters can too. It's not like any of the designs are explicit.
The point of the contest is to submit and have fun. It shouldn't matter if you win or lose. Of course there are going to be people with great art skills. If you want to get better drawing, practice.
I've seen artwork win that wasn't even all that skillful.
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I’m just mad because it’s Claudette and it’s ugly. Two bad factors.
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It's really sad that just because it's the internet, people think it's fine to just attack other peoples ideas. The Claudette skin isn't something I'd use personally, but I actually think it's a good design. It's different and I like the idea of Claudette going full casual. So props to the designer for this!
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i still think the claudette skin doesnt fit her character.
dont get me wrong, the skin looks great! i am not trying to "take the win away from the creator" or something silly like that, the skin certainly deserves to be a winner! - but should it really be a Claudette skin?
Claudette isnt the type of person who would really go for such clothing - both her tome and character lore state that she was always amazed by biology (especially plants), was more of a nerdy character who struggled to make friends and later on was an extreme introvert to the point where no one even noticed her disappearing, until someone on her forum thought it was weird that she had not posted anything in a whole WEEK.
this skin however doesnt at all fit such characteristics imo. it looks like something one would wear in public on parties and such - trying to be stylish, which just doesnt work with an introverted character such as Claudette...
i think it would have been better if this skin wasnt a Claudette skin, but maybe a Yui, Meg or Kate skin - especially Yui is someone i can see wearing such clothing (plus the skins skin color would actually match the character that way - just saying).
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I still dislike the claudette one. Its generic AF.
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Yeah, that's what I want to do to the cosmetic as well.
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I guess shame on us for pointing out the similarities between two skins?
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But OP, what about the LORE! What about my precious LORE! LORE doesn't describe her in such an outgoing fashion! LORE! Wait, did I mention about the LORE?
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To be entirely honest, I don't like either of the winning designs. I ######### hate Claudettes, besides the fact she has enough cosmetics, and the Legion one looks a lot like the Joey skin.
I would have rathered the Yui one and either the Huntress or the other Legion one they showed because they were original.
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You know it's okay to criticize someone's work and it doesn't mean you're personally attacking the artist as a person, right? If some people go over the line then that's unfortunate and should be dealt with, but saying you don't think a design deserved to win because you think it's unoriginal or doesn't fit the character or whatever doesn't mean you're insulting anyone. If you're an artist then you'll need to expect people to be critical of your work.
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So basically, don't criticize or have an opinion that isn't yours.
Ok.
Like a previous poster said, this is all a strawman. I don't see anyone here "attacking the artist", in fact most of the critical comments have complimented the quality of the artwork itself. They just don't like the costume.
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I didn't even realise that was supposed to be Claudette when I first saw it.
Isn't she supposed to be a dark-skinned black woman?
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As I said before, everyone is entitled to how they feel about the cosmetics. I was only shedding some light on why I found some of the reason to be ridiculous.
At the end of the day the cosmetic is being made regardless if you like it or don't.
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the other legion one is at the same level in my opinion they're both great, and susie has all the cool cosmetic already, i think frank need love follow by joey.
Even tho his cosmetic resemble joey's (btw i think is intentional since it's in the theme of influence and group mentality gone wrong) frank is in need of a different skin since he don't have the best skin of the bunch (his skin is pretty lame expect 2-3), aslo i can see frank taking joey's style, but yea huntress one was super cool and the russian fashion is awesome.
I agree for the survivor one, i can't stand claudette (even if she seems to be loved by the dev) and think yui design was better executed overall and fit the character better than the claudette one, jane romero one was super cool imo and should be used too.
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I haven't read the threads complaining about contest winners (frankly I'm just not interested in seeing complaints about that sort of thing) so I don't know exactly what people have been saying, but...
While I do think it's kind of crappy for people to trash on the creator for their work or whatever, I don't see what's so bad about people sharing their opinion. A bad opinion is still as valid is a good opinion (in my opinion) as long as there's some sort of reasoning behind it. I don't think people should be shamed for sharing their opinions.
As I said though, I don't know what's been said about the winners in general so for all I know it is people attacking the creators themselves. In that case, yeah it's scummy. But I don't think it's scummy just for somebody to say they don't imagine a character wearing a certain thing or whatever.
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Honestly, I like them. People should just quit crying and stop hating them because it's not the ones they wanted. Also, the Claudette one is nice.
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I can see why people dislike the winner contest design, and I have to say I agree with them, not in the way that the design looks terrible, but it doesn't fit her lore. While I won't denied people vision of wanting to see a nerd character looks cool and sexy, but we have to accept that the criticism is valid (minus the non valid point or just hate for no reason)
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Haha.
Oh my goodness, the fire rages on. 😆
If people don't like the skin, just tunnel it like people do with Bunny Fengs.
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Yeah I would've liked other ones to win but the claudette skin is really good still.
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The cosmetic design contest was never to make cosmetics that fit with the characters lore.
It's literally to design a cosmetic that you want to see on a character it's your one chance to actually make a cosmetic that will probably never be used by the developers because it doesn't fit the theme of the character.
That's the whole problem about you guys over thinking it. if it had to fit the characters lore that would be one of the conditions of the contest but it wasn't your free to create something that you personally feel would look nice not something that you feel would match their story.
If someone wants to draw a Scholar Min or a posh nobleman Jake they are free to do so so these go both against what characters are meant to be because it doesn't match up with the lore in fact it directly goes against what they personally chosen life.
But the proposal of this contest is not to make lore accurate cosmetics it's to make cosmetics that you want to see on the character and it gives not only the community but the developers a chance to add something that usually wouldn't fit around the theme of that character
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I'm happy to see the creators of their art won the contest, wonderful job. But the cosmetic skin itself for claud looks ugly.
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I think you summed it up best by saying "THIS IS NOT PROJECT RUNWAY / DBD NEXT TOP DESIGNER. IT'S DEAD BY DAYLIGHT."
People want cosmetics that fit tonally with DBD, and characters. Simple as that. Less is more, and a lot of DBD cosmetics, BHVR or not, have been the complete opposite of this. That being said, I'm not trying to defend hating on the artists. I'm an artist too, I understand that feeling, and it's unfortunate, but feedback is feedback. I'd wish people were more polite in their responses, but to ignore their valid criticism completely over that is a bit unfair too.
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If we're being specific a lot of the ingame Skins break lore.
Jake's Miner skin
Sea monster traper
Candle Wraith
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I love the Claudette one. She's has a whole new attitude. Science by day, 90s hip hop by night! Let's go. She usually gets frumpy clothes, black, beige, brown. And the legion one is amazing too, all the different mask and the small attention to detail. Both fantastic.
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That’s what I’m saying. And this style is making a comeback.
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Funny I believe David a MALE character is the only one to be shirtless in this game....
Odd I believe Micheal Myers a MALE character is the only one to have no pants.....
Highlighting "sexual" features is something people do all the time its just ignored when it happens to a male character but blown out of proportion when its a female character.
Chill its just a game mate.
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It should be the communitys choice to pick their favorite cosmetics not the devs
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@MegaWaffle it seems you're more worked up about the thing than I am, maybe you should be the one to chill? I'm also positive you didn't even read my full post or you wouldn't have commented at me probably at all. Then again I'm guessing you're the type of person that responds with anger and resentment to anyone who has a different opinion than you because you feel like it threatens your own belief system, but again I bet you didn't even read my full post and if you did than my god is your reading comprehension poor.
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I like the skin, it's ok, bot something I would use on Claud. I'm just a little angry that they chose Claudette. She and Meg seem to always get new cosmetics almost once or twice a month. Just recently Claud got her lil cabin outfit. I just wish they chose a character who hasn't had an outfit in a while. Like Nea or Jeff or Adam!
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I couldn't care less about the creators. I'm sure they're fine. I just personally think these don't contribute much. The legion one has some fresh ideas, and clearly had a lot of work put into it. Claudette's had work put into it too, of course, but I feel it's just like a bunch of the other cosmetics we already have. That, and claudette already has so many. This would've been a great opportunity to give a character with less cosmetics another option, and an outstanding or unique one at that. These are fine, but it feels like a wasted opportunity.
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I'll agree I didn't read the full post and that's admittedly something I need to really start doing but you're making quite the assumption based off a single reply.
I wrote that reply while straight faced, eating a bagel and drinking a coffee, as I am now.
So while I do apologize for not reading your full response and agree I most likely wouldn't have typed what I did I also think you may want to consider not jumping to such a response yourself to a single post.
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For this specifically, not seeing it to be "fitting" I feel isn't about the urban concept, but the underwear. We don't have a problem with baggy sweats and a hoodie. A relaxed Claudette was smart and I personally think the artwork was great! Gave artist kudos when they posted it...
We(those who loved her innocence) just don't agree that her g-string showing fits her character. I love Claudette's lore and greatly appreciated a female survivor who didn't have mostly sexualized cosmetics. There are enough flashy outfits for the other ladies. My Jane Romero Red Carpet Event concept( which obviously didn't win lol) had her mid-drift showing. So I'm not even entirely against revealing garments. We just have a certain appreciation to ones characteristics and lore. And G-strings weren't in the books for Claudette. Literally. Lol.
I know it sounds so closed minded, but I just want to protect her purity. Just hers. And maybe Dwight's lol.
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