Any way we can get a Hispanic survivor?
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Yeah I kinda figured a guy with 12k posts would recognize that. And you're right. The toxic players would out themselves when they come and complain.
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Not sure,but it's definitely a Korean last name. He also has a skin from Lunar New Year that makes him look like Bruce Lee to me...or Johnny Cage,I guess lol. I mean people have two parents,so it's possible one was Native American and one was Korean American.
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Hispanic? You mean like Jane Romero...
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yeah but Ace has the moonrise event set that turns him into an old Asian guy too LOL
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I know. Was just kinda saying I wouldn't take cosmetics as lore,ya know? If you see the reference again,I'd be interested to know.
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Yeah we've been through that multiple times just like the Jake thing. I dunno. It just wasn't obvious to me. Even the ones that are Hispanic are kind of vague,as far as names and actual origin. My fault though.
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Doesnt Jane have a Day of the Dead type cosmetic too? Makes sense.
Says she is Latina American https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Jane_Romero
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Yeah I just was going by what you could get from her story in game,which I didn't look at until people mentioned. I'd just kinda like to see one where you didn't have to guess and was paired with a killer from the appropriate lore. Some people had some good suggestion. I really didn't expect any kind of response lol. I don't really do cosmetics. I just started playing again a few months ago after a year or more break,and just bought all the chapters very very recently. Think I bought 6 chapters just this month. Plague and Oni packs were the last two I got last week. The last two I have left to buy are Ash and the Stranger Things chapter.
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He is Argentinian, just a little pull from his lore "Ace Visconti is one charming guy. With his sharp Italian looks, grey-streaked hair and silver tongue, he could pass for an ageing 50's movies star. His heart has always belonged to the cards. From his roots as a poor boy in Argentina"
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So does David and Legion, but I thought Jane was Brazilian or Spanish
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Don't ever apologize for being that guy.
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Lol what? Dude, Jane Romero is hispanic. Read your lore entries, it's like, her WHOLE thing- her balking against being typecast as the funny hispanic lady who people wanted to speak in an accent and all. Smh. Seriously, going off of her tome content you can't get any more "obviously hispanic", they basically beat you over the head with it.
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If you read the comments, multiple people have already pointed it out,I JUST bought her chapter days ago,and didn't read the character info until today when people mentioned it (which doesn't even state her origin). I just bought the character days ago,and her Tome entries were from the last Rift,when I didn't have her,so I obviously wasn't able to do them.
I just started playing the game again like February and didn't have any of the characters you had to pay for until recently. I'm not really a big lore guy honestly. I was kinda saying I would like a Hispanic character that was more obvious,and wasn't a single line in a character entry,or some secret lore you have to do a challenge to even be able to see. Some of the challenges are a bit beyond my skill level anyways.
I've already said that's my bad. I just didn't know. If the thread didn't blow up unexpectedly I probably would've never known.
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I'm on board with your thinking.
I've wanted a Mexican Killer for a very long time. Ancient Aztec warrior or some such craziness :)
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Well,you never know how people are going to react. I would like to say I've played as someone that looks like my people more than I have. I don't want it to be like a single line of text that isn't evident in the characters design either. I mean be cliche and throw a sombrero on them if you have to. Show it in their features or ink.
You can look at Feng or Claudette and know what you are getting. But I'm supposed to know about Jane being Hispanic because she's thick like J-Lo? I just bought her like a week ago tops. It's cool to know though,but I just kinda want to see a full package. I appreciate the comment though,thanks.
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Hey,that's another great idea :) Could rip or cut their heart out for the Mori. There's some real potential if you ask me. Probably things I can't even think of. Most of the comments are arguing about the race/ethnicity of existing characters, or basically saying I should know because of some lines of text. So while I appreciate all constructive comments,I appreciate the suggestions most. I'd draw something up if I had the skill. I think a Voodoo type killer would be neat too,but that's off topic.
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Exactly what I was thinking.
I've been playing with my idea "The Savage" for a while now lol
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Maybe someday. I'm wondering if they are going to make a second game or just port this to new consoles and keep updating it. They've been pretty creative so far. It's been interesting to see at least. I'm glad I came back to it.
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As everyone has said Jane is Hispanic, but I think people fall into the trap of pointing to one character and calling it a day. With the addition of Cheryl we have a total of five petite white girls, with Jane doing double diversity duty due to her ethnicity and size. Of the white girls four are from the U. S (and Nea, the one exception, moved there).
I think people tend to gleefully misinterpret this topic as 'diversity for diversities sake', but honestly at this point more people of colour or a couple more older characters would genuinely just be good to make the cast stand out from each other a little better--as excited as I am to see four more white girls with a leather jacket+side-cut cosmetic combo I'd be happier if the entity could be a little more varied in its choice of victims.
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I really like your comment and I couldn't sign in for the life of me. Stupid thing like logged me out then said my password was wrong. They I tried to reset it and it said user not found. I was like freaking out. I like the forums and it's different opinions for the most part.Having differences makes things interesting.
Have no problem playing as a petite white girl. Or a smart black man or woman. I can get into any character if they are designed well. Sometimes it is just tacked on,but I never got that feeling here. They feel pretty well thought out and unique. There's so many cultures that could make a cool survivor and killer. I just so seldom see a Hispanic or Spanish character and of course I'm going to want something that represents my particular culture.
The cast is pretty varied,compared to most games. But we have players all over the world. Some play in a language they don't even understand because it's the best they can do. Would be nice to show everyone some love,even if it's not feasible to do so. Was just a thought I had and I decided to share it.
Would like to see some older characters like Bill,or something completely different,I agree. I'm disabled,and although someone made a joke,I wouldn't mind seeing someone like that,but I thought maybe it was a bit much to ask because it might be hard to fit in with mechanics or be too sensitive. Franklin for Cannibal wouldve made the most sense,but I see how that wouldn't work at all. So I went with the most obvious thing I see the least of.
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Actually, the important part nobody had mentioned. Which is her tome entries. My point being that perhaps you should check on these things before playing the race card. I honestly don't see what the point of any of it is- Is there something more effective about having a hispanic character? Do you just crave representation? I can understand if so, but from all angles the devs seem to be showing love in a broad manner, both in terms of ethnicity and nationalism. Where's the Inuits rallying for their survivor? Should we throw in some transgendered and disabled people as well? Where do we draw the line in this PC age? Not to be *that guy* but it's a little ridiculous. Just play the game, and unless you see some obvious stereotype or something don't throw racial politics into the mix they have enough to worry about. Good grief.
Edit: I can already see some flames oncoming for my unpopular opinion but it is what it is. Admittedly, I'm a bit triggered by this phenomenon in general, but I think my point is valid. It doesn't seem fair to stack pressure on the creative teams to conform to expectations. At that point you risk getting stereotypical characters whose sole identity is their race, such as Ms. Romero comes dangerously close to being an example. Whether any race card is intended to be placed into play, requests such as these can easily end up there, as evidenced by people clearly bothered enough to tally up the amount of characters into racial categories. Again, why does it matter? Race should be incidental to any survivor or killer's lore and not derivative of it. If we were really concerned with inequality we'd be asking for the truly unrepresented anyways. I find it annoying, but hey that's just my opinion.
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The one guy did. He made a point about it earlier. But yeah I didn't have her until the other day,and have been working on the new Rift. Wasn't thinking that Romero was a Hispanic name,and didn't want to just assume since it wasn't mentioned in her character info,and the fact her mom had a different name threw me off. Those are my fault though.
It's cool to know. I'm just not sure if both of her parents were Hispanic. Doesn't mention much about her dad,and her mom's name doesn't seem to have Hispanic origin. That could definitely be a stage name since she was an actress though. I do appreciate people letting me know. At least there's something. I wasn't sure what to expect. Ace's origin is sorta mentioned in passing,and everything else about him seems Italian.
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Don't just ask for a character of a race because race ? Das lame
Just invent a cool character of that race
Or make and support Hispanic games yourself
Play
just cause
tekken
the darkness
Army of two
Gears of War
Those for your race main character if you want
accually if you know any Hispanic horror lore please share it because I'm curious
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lmao this, my mother could tell in a fraction of a second she was hispanic just by looking at her
"she has a latina body" - My mom
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As well as Jane, David got a Day of the Dead festival attire. I'm suprised the SJWs didn't start jumping up and down screaming about 'cultural appropriation'.
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Lol Argentina is known for colorism and extreme racism towards darker skin Spanish people or dark people in general. So not what he was looking for I bet
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Definitely not in Brazil, you can bet there aren't more than 5 people named Jane or Romero here
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I'm from Asia, he looks Asian. At least as much as you can when all the survivors models are trash.
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I'm also Spanish, and while I don't care for representation, it's always cool to see it done right in media. Nothing beaten over the head/or pandering like Jane. Loved seeing stuff like Reapers mariachi skin in OW, it's just cool. Something better than Jane though lol, sorry to any Jane fans, just really not fond of her. Kinda sucks how shes the only hispanic rep.
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So you don't want pandering or beating you over the head, but you like a skin that's deeply associated with Mexican culture and exists only to pander, as opposed to a character who's not defined by her heritage?
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Jake is "apparently" Korean when his face was modeled after a Chinese person...
Anyway, Hispanic character-wise we have a few don't we?
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I'd like to see a latino male, something I've been saying for a while, because my husband is latino. BHVR has said they want their survivors to be someone the players can identify with, so I don't see why representation is being some what scoffed at here? It's not only something people crave because they can relate to it, and not having it is kind of a big deal but I won't go into all that -- but in the case of BHVR it attracts customers. It's a good business move. Judge it how you will, but I'm less apt to playing games that don't have playable female characters, for instance. Been that way since the first Tekken or Resident Evil came on the scene. It doesn't mean I won't play a game with a male lead if it piques my interest, I've played many. However it is a factor that can make me more interested in spending my money and time.
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A skin is just a skin. It's just a cool nod and looks sick, what of it. Jane on the other hand, is a character thats like 60% defined by being Hispanic (at least in that god awful tome). Her being a talkshow host, and stuff isn't really all that interesting to me. She talks to her mom who ends up dropping a bomb on her, she gets so emotionally distressed that she pops some pills and gets into a car accident... I really don't see whats so likeable about her.
Some Hispanic characters I really love on the otherhand are people like Carlito from Deadrising, King from Tekken, Carlos from RE3, Vamp from MGS2, and The Innocentz from Manhunt. You don't even need to have them being Hispanic a key part of their character, just have it be a cool/likeable character in general.
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"Not to be *that guy* but it's a little ridiculous. Just play the game"
Says the guy going on a multiple paragraph long rant because he's triggered somebody wants more diversity in the characters
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Since they won't add Brenda into the game bc people think it don't belongs here, should we count all the white licenced characters ? it greatly increases the diversity.
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Like others have said, Jane is but there's definitely room for more and I would love to see even more diversity in the game.
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I agree actually. I think race isn't a defining factor in character design. It can be definitely, with some good writing and tactfulness; But if your character is generally unlikable or badly written, then it doesn't matter if they're [x]. That's what I didn't like about Jane in her tomes. If your character is all about being not defined by her race, and there little substance to her outside of that... Then she's kind of literally defined by her race lol. None of my family or friends really liked her, I think it felt kind of weird. Like whoever wrote that tome really wanted to get virtue points from Hispanics, or white chicks who care about race. Just write good characters, devs. And if they happen to be Hispanic, then sweet!
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I don't understand what you are saying because only a few of those games make sense. A few of them have Italian main Characters. The Darkness being one. And I'm not sure about Gears of War,but Marcus is definitely white,and if you mean Dom,I don't think it's very clear. Youre also talking about years old games. I'm talking about a game I'm currently playing for hours a day. People already mentioned some Hispanic horror lore. I actually went to school for computer programming,but that "make your own game" argument when someone makes a casual suggestion is weak. If I had the money I would make my own game.
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Since you edited the comment after I replied,I'll do so again. I'm not that person to have that argument with,as I would usually agree. Yes,I would like some representation that isn't just a character that has the lore you described. I wasn't demanding,it was an offhanded request,if that. If I've been playing games for 30 years and can only think of a handful of Spanish or Hispanic characters that weren't a stereotype,isn't that "underrepresented"? Nobody has even made suggestions of other games,and when they did,some aren't what I'm even talking about. Maybe the lore is so thin,that's what people instantly gravitate too. Most of the other characters I wouldn't consider to be a stereotype of their race. I agree and disagree with you at the same time.
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Most people in this forum will react absurdly to people wanting representation and asking such out of developers and the likes, then they will turn around and start screeching like pterodactyls when also we don't buy games that have the same 100% white and from USA cast because "how dare you not support them when they don't pander to you!11!". I've noticed one can't win with this part of the gaming community when it comes to minorities asking for a little bit more room, because it bothers them when we do.
Edit: I mean, look at Jane's rift lore, it strongly highlighted her struggle as a latina going against stereotypes, and most of the forums had a meltdown because they had to face like... a small facet of the latino reality for more than 5 minutes. 'It's too beaten over the head' is just their way to say they're not comfortable with Jane facing a common reality in her industry as a woman of colour irl.
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I mean one person did mention the model. Most people are just referring to the last name being Korean. He doesn't seem to have much of a story compared to the later characters. And we've been over it. I literally just started buying the DLC chapters and it's only mentioned for Ace in one sentence that I missed. That's my fault though.
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That's a good point. I can understand that. I was kinda thinking more on the model side. Like I look at the character and know where they are from. Then pair that with a killer that has something to do with the myths of folklore of that area. Yui and Oni probably being the best example. I'm not really a lore guy,unless it comes to Dark Souls. If they can think of some way to make it cool and make it fit,that's great. Could have like a paranormal investigator from that country looking for the Chupacabra,idk. I'm not sure that I like Jane's story either,and just didn't know about it. The thought popped in my head and I ran with it. It some ways it went better than I expected,in some ways I was surprised,lol.
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I appreciate that a lot. I'm not the type to rant and rave about it. I just so rarely see it,I thought it would be cool if they could make it fit. When they are featured they always seem to be the same type of guys. Ghost Recon is a great example. It's like throughout the whole series. Cubans,Mexicans. The whole thing with Wildlands...always enemies,never main characters. Rainbow Six at least had Domingo Chavez,who is one of my favorite characters of all time (at least the book version that had substance).
I really wasn't coming from any type of particular viewpoint. I rarely bring it up because I'm used to it by now. If I wasn't a big fan of the game,I wouldn't have cared at all. I see where you are coming from. I know it really does matter to some people. I actually prefer the female and black characters if I have a choice. Not really a conscious thing,I just always seem to gravitate towards them and a lot of the games that feature them just happen to be good,or they happen to be the best or most likeable character.
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