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Survivors, what do you consider “winning a chase?”

johnmwarner
johnmwarner Member Posts: 3,793

Curious here, I’m a solo survivor been red rank for a long time if it matters, not that it does I still kind of suck and admit it.

anyways to my question and topic...I’m not a great looper, I can’t do 4-5 gen chases I don’t do window tech, etc but if I can waste a solid minute of the killers time I feel like I really helped my team, of course hearing a couple gens pop during chases is even better!

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  • DelsKibara
    DelsKibara Member Posts: 3,127

    Doing at least a full 1 generator chase. To me that's "Winning".

    It's even better when it's a 3 gen chase, then the Killer facecamps me and wastes his time while I hope my teammates has BT.

  • Dr_Loomis
    Dr_Loomis Member Posts: 3,703

    I'm not a great looper either. I usually don't escape a chase when I'm in one. Facts.

    But when I occasionally do get away, I regard it as a win if I sent the pursuing killer the wrong way or they just gave up the chase.

  • johnmwarner
    johnmwarner Member Posts: 3,793

    Escaping is a mega win for me lol, the rare time I’ve slipped the opposite way after a loop and realized the killer lost me I was so thrilled

  • johnmwarner
    johnmwarner Member Posts: 3,793

    Man, I’ve had literally only a couple of those chases ever but yeah it’s nice

  • xenotimebong
    xenotimebong Member Posts: 2,803

    The killer choosing to leave me is the best kind of win. I still consider it a win if I go down but bought my team plenty of time to do gens/unhooks/gates/whatever, though.

  • johnmwarner
    johnmwarner Member Posts: 3,793

    I’m glad I’m not alone, if it’s mid game and the whole team is injured/hooked and my chase gives them time to rescue and all get healed up I feel great. I’ve had late game chases too where a killer tunnel visions me to an empty corner of the map giving the other 3 time to open the door and get out, even though I get sacced I consider it a win

  • Dicklaycia
    Dicklaycia Member Posts: 147

    For me, it would be either a Killer losing sight of me or going the other direction, the Killer giving up the chase entirely, or having a generator pop before I go down. I play entirely solo Survivor, so the last one is a pretty big crapshoot depending on what teammates the matchmaker blesses me with that day, but it’s the most satisfying to pull off when you know the objective is still getting done while I’m keeping the Killer occupied.

  • tippy2k2
    tippy2k2 Member Posts: 5,204

    Either escaping or killing at least one minute

    I'm not good at chases (doesn't help that I essentially refuse to loop as I find it incredibly boring and completely antithesis to what the game should be) so my primary goal is usually just to get away. If I do get myself caught, my goal is to at least kill as much time as I can.

  • sulaiman
    sulaiman Member Posts: 3,219

    Escaping the chase, plain and simple.

  • FrootLoops
    FrootLoops Member Posts: 376

    had a chase with a ghostface, 2 slugged 1 hooked. He was chasing me, I managed to lose him, pick up a slug, and get the unhook. Ever since then nothing has felt more like I won

  • OniWantsYourMacaroni
    OniWantsYourMacaroni Member Posts: 5,944

    Even wasting "just" a minute of the killers time can often be game changing.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Wasting the killers time. If I go down quick, I messed up. If I lead the killer on a long chase, or kite them away from the gens, I did my job. Of course, in solo que you're constantly matched with boosted idiot - I mean, with less situationally aware players, so you cannot really guage how well you do based on the generators being done. Just because two morons were gawping at me while Jake does his best to solo-rush gens doesn't mean I did bad. And just because I go down instantly doesn't always mean I screwed up - I could have been martyring myself to buy the others a little time since I knew the killer would hook me, or maybe I was just in a complete deadzone while injured or exposed. It happens. I wouldn't consider any of those scenarios "losing".

  • ZerLukas
    ZerLukas Member Posts: 294

    Escaping a killer.

    Basically any chase that didn't end in me being downed thanks to my efforts.

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897

    If I can waste a couple of minutes of the killers time. They give up. A couple of gens pop. I manage to lose them. Those are all wins to me.

  • uBoluCha
    uBoluCha Member Posts: 121

    well when you said a "minute" it's really help repairing 1 gen with 1 survivor is 80 second if i'm not wrong , so at least you can get 3 gen poped in a minute (if your team didn't do another objective like totem or following you chased to trying flashlight/pallet killer grasp rescue)

  • Dolls
    Dolls Member Posts: 395

    Winning a chase is when I hear a generator( or more!) Go off...we're that much closer to winning, guys!

  • Joelwino
    Joelwino Member Posts: 550

    When the killer gives up, I escape the chase, or if I ran the killer around for at least one gen while efficiently using my resources.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873
    edited June 2020

    2+ gen chases. Anything less and I have room to improve. If up against a new killer or someone still learning the killer, I don't count it.

    EDIT: If the killer gives the chase up, it doesn't count.

  • aregularplayer
    aregularplayer Member Posts: 906

    2+ gens or losing the killer

  • seyiya
    seyiya Member Posts: 10

    If the killer hits you again when you are hooked

  • xChrisx
    xChrisx Member Posts: 917

    When after 3 gen chase the killer leave me

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,536

    If I got in a chase with you for 5 seconds to score a PWYF stack...would you consider that "winning"? If a Legion goes into FF and stabs all 4 survivors...did 3 of em "win" since they didnt go down?

  • MadArtillery
    MadArtillery Member Posts: 826

    Any time I escape the killer. Multi gen chases do feel good too.

  • Carlosylu
    Carlosylu Member Posts: 2,948

    Winning a chase:

    Running the killer for 2+ gens

    Escaping the killer

    The killer decides to let me go cause I outplay him

    The killer DCs when chasing me

  • DarkMagik
    DarkMagik Member Posts: 822

    A winning chase has 4 varaiables.

    Here are the variables.

    -Gens Done

    -Killer

    -Pallets Used

    -Result Of Chase.



    The number is from most important to least important.

    1.Gens Completed needs no explaination

    2.Killer plays a role in a winning chase.Ex:If you could waste a tier 3 from a myers its a win or the Oni ablity.

    3.The less pallets used the better for late game & teamates.

    4.The result of the chase is important because you might escape but you make the killer go after someone on death hook.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675
  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,536

    Neither of those is helping you. Your just not the current target while your team is left worse off.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Arguably the killer letting me go prevents me from being hooked, but, regardless, those chases were won, even if it doesn't necessarily mean I'm better for it.

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    Why is anyone here making anything up? There is an objective answer to this question.

    If the chase ends with the Survivors successfully losing the Killer then the Survivor successfully won the chase. If they are downed then they lost the chase.

    Won chases are explicitly tracked by the evader emblem and are worth double the chase points compared to a chase where you get hit.

    Quote from the wiki:

    "a Chase is considered ended and successful for the Survivor if the Killer is lost for 5 seconds"

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Because the question is what we consider winning a chase, not what the game's definition is.

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    What do you consider winning in chess to be? Notice how any answer other than checkmating the King just sounds silly.

    Win conditions are core to pretty much every competition in existence, so it's important to not let something that critical get bogged down by opinion.

    That's why farming Killers can come off as so jarring. They aren't playing to their win condition of Killing the Survivors and thus the entire dynamic of the game is lost.

    Sandbagging Survivors can be similarly disruptive.

  • NinjaDette1
    NinjaDette1 Member Posts: 1,289
    edited June 2020

    Not long ago a baby killer wasted their time chasing me the entire match.As my teammates worked on generators all four of escaped in the end.

  • Gcarrara
    Gcarrara Member Posts: 2,263

    If a Killer leaves me without there being a good reason other than i'm wasting too much of his time i consider it a good result.

    (I.E: Doesn't count if Killer leaves me because he got another Survivor)

    I consider it a good outcome if 2 or more gens popped during the chase also.

    I also like some Endgame Collpase escapes, and consider it a good result when there is no chance of Survival, yet i manage to survive the chase through out all the collapse until the Entity finally claims me 🙂

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    I get that the game has its win condition, but people can make their own. Against Kasparov, for example, I'd consider it a win if I made him stumble for even a fraction of a second (and not because of how stupid my moves had been).

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    get atleast a 2 gen chase is considered a winning chase for me although if i use more then 3 - 4 pallets in that time im upset with myself

  • Johnny_XMan
    Johnny_XMan Member Posts: 6,432

    For me personally. Using the most out of pallets and tiles while also mind-gaming.

    Sometimes I get greedy but it pays off and that’s when I feel like I won. Other times not so much.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    If the killer gives up on me or a gen or more pop.

  • ayaya
    ayaya Member Posts: 163

    When I escape. Even when it's been 5 gen run I don't feel really accomplished and rewarded by this facecamp and depip

  • Kellie
    Kellie Member Posts: 1,328

    Getting hit by the killer, doing solid juke at least once, and having at least one gen pop during the chase.

  • Bovinity
    Bovinity Member Posts: 1,522

    When I get hit but know it won't matter because all my perks are still up.

  • BigTimeGamer
    BigTimeGamer Member Posts: 1,752

    Killer gives up or the chase lasts at leasts 2 gens

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,369

    Really tough to quantify. It's definitely a win if generators pop, but that really depends on whether your teammates are AFK or actually playing the game. I had a 3 minute chase at the start of a game last night and no gens were completed by the end of it. So yeah...

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,536

    Because its all down to the details and not a matter of "Does the game see you as in a chase, then out of a chase". If the killer spots multiple people at the same time, but only goes after 1... did the others win a chase even though they just passed infront of the killer's screen and were never actually chased? If Legion uses his power to stab 4 ppl...did 3 ppl win a chase?

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807
    edited June 2020

    In the first case yes, in the second case not sure but I don't think so.

    Like I said, chases you win vs chases you lose is a statistic the game tracks. So regardless of what you think a won chase SHOULD be, that won't change what a won chase actually is.

    And yes it matters, because this knowledge is important for anyone trying to maximize their evader emblem.

  • blue4zion
    blue4zion Member Posts: 2,773

    To me it's really just escaping without getting downed, not so much if it's a really short chase.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    Giving the killer DEEZ BAGS.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,536

    I dont think anyone is talking about it in the same manner of the chaser emblem though