Should dcing for hatch be legitamately bannable?
Was doing the archive challenge to get a 4k as doctor because i never did it and could use the bp. So i play the match normal dont even tunnel or anything but since i need a 4k i slug the 3rd person and go to find the other person and boom 3rd guy leaves and 4th leaves through hatch. I know people consider slugging toxic but its still a tactic unlike dcing to give hatch which is a exploit. Especially when the survivors even admit it in the endgame chat "thats what you get for slugging" "ggez swf hatch escape". And what the guy gets like a 5 minute ban because it resets daily?
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Slugging is well within the rules of the game albeit boring or "unfun" at times.
Disconnecting is not especially if used to give the last Survivor hatch while also bypassing the usual delay the Killer gets while Sacrificing the 3rd Survivor.
EULA even says so.
I. Rules of Conduct
While participating in the Game, you also agree to comply with certain rules of conduct that govern your use of the Game (“Rules of Conduct”), for example you may not:
Exploit errors in design, features which are not documented, and/or bugs to gain access that would otherwise not be available or to obtain any competitive advantage.
This above-referenced list of prohibitions only provides examples of unacceptable conduct and is not intended to be a complete or exclusive list of prohibited conduct. Your online conduct should be guided by common sense and respect for others who access and use the Game (whether or not such third parties are registered users of the Game) and for the employees and representatives of BHVR.
Report anyone who disconnects (and send in a follow up report with evidence to their Customer Support) especially if they admit to doing so just so the Last Survivor is guaranteed hatch.
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slugging for the 4k happens all the time whereas dcing for the hatch just doesn't, in part because the prior's rewarded and the latter's punished. the dcer not only has to wait out the penalty, but they forfeit their pip and all the bloodpoints they got during the round just so their final ally can escape.
that's punishment enough imo. unbreakable and adrenaline are much, much more of a nuisance to me when I'm trying to 4k than that rarity.
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DCing for hatch is quite petty, but honestly I find it funny more than anything. The fact that they went that far out of their way to make sure one person escaped but they still lost the match is hilarious to me. I've never slugged for a 4K so I haven't had this happen to me but I suppose I can see how it could annoy someone who REALLY wants the 4K
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They’re already getting punished with a DC penalty so no, it is not bannable via reporting unless @Peanits or someone can confirm otherwise.
Also, what if someone legitimately has to leave the game due to outside circumstances (however unlikely that may be)? There’s no way you can PROVE it was ill intent unless they brag afterwards.
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The DCing Survivor gets a Matchmaking Penalty (which affects their Teammates as well, if they are SWF) and he loses all BPs he has earned and will lose a Pip.
While it is clearly annoying and unfair, not really a reason to put any work into this - this will not happen on a frequent basis, highly unlikely that someone will do that more than once in a while. BHVR does not need to put ressources into this.
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Costed me my archive challenge which now i gotta go try to get another one.
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gl with that. I think you might have more luck in not slugging the 3rd person and simply hooking them. If they're not on death hook the last survivor has a choice to hide or rescue the other guy, and you might be able to find them with BBQ.
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I dont think thats quite fair, clearly dcing for the 4th person is clearly happening way more often that just a random disconnect. And it can really hurt the killer players because we lose out on not just 1 kill but 2 which can take a killer from pip to depip depending on how the game went
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Not any more than any other disconnect, because that's what it is.. a disconnect. Change how disconnects and the hatch interact instead if the current rules surrounding DCs aren't to be changed.
And it's stated right there in the rules to not report for disconnecting, and that no action will be taken when it comes to reports that are actually made for disconnecting. DC penalties are already in place and they're the punishment for excessive disconnections right there, it's a waste of time to report for it if the rules are to be believed.
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So he admitted that he disconnected to give hatch to the other survivor, which is kind of a sad thing to do and is pretty much a fair way to cheat, and you get upset that they say "ggez"?
If they played the way the game properly then they all would be dead and they know it. Their ggez's mean literally nothing. It clearly wasn't "ez" since only one got out and it's only thanks to them cheating. All they are doing is just try to annoy you.
I personally would see this game as an absolute win for me if I was the killer.
And no , I don't think this kind of dc should be treated any differently than any other dc.
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It's definitely against the rules to intentionally disconnect for any scenario and disconnecting just so another survivor can get the hatch is clearly an exploit. Ignore all these people spouting nonsense about how this is just a disconnect so you should just let the automated system handle it. This is using one thing that's against the rules to do yet another thing that's against the rules. If you have any evidence of them clearly intentionally disconnecting for the purpose of letting somebody get the hatch, then report it and give BHVR that evidence. There's a difference between pushing somebody and pushing somebody into a fire; and there's a difference between intentionally disconnecting and intentionally disconnecting to give somebody the hatch. One is a single violation of the rules and one is a violation the rules to violate yet another rule.
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They already get punished for it
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I highly doubt a report is going to do anything. Most likely any report will be closed because of the disconnect penalty. If you report for this though you should probably record it and make a report to the support in addition to the in-game report with a video. The Windows game recording thingy (press Windows key + G) gives you access to the last 30 seconds, so you can get footage even if you weren't recording the entire match. No idea if other recording software can do the same.
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It seems like an exploit to me. Dcing cause youre tilted is one thing, dcing to give your team an unintended advantage is another.
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Nah this is different than straight dcing
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They could just make it if the 3rd person on the ground dcs it doesnt count them as dead so the hatch doesnt open.
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dcing for the hatch should be punished as you are giving the survivor a advantage and its exploiting the game as mentioned it bypass the normal waiting time of the scarfice to complete so it is bannable lets put it this way if the killer dc before you reach the exit and you lost those surivial points would you say thats fair
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No.
...besides, it already provides a ban penalty.
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D/C already bans you from queue for a bit so I don't think d/cing specific for the hatch needs an extra punishment.
I just want the devs to make it so that d/cing doesn't immediately open the hatch so the Killer can try to contest the hatch. Similar to how a survivor on death hook takes a few seconds before fully sacrificed.
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Frankly I'd say it's abuse of out-of-game mechanics for an in-game advantage.
DBD Mobile actually has survivor and killer bots to take over when someone quits so TACTICAL DISCONNECT, INCOMING!!!!! isn't possible.
I think the best option is the mobile bot system (or even just bots without AI who go AFK in Dying State and slowly bleed out).
Like rather than having to report people for committing a tactical disconnect/hatch tech, (Which in the end, is scummy but it's not anything near as bad as holding someone hostage or literally using cheats) the way the game handles a disconnection should be changed so a Tactical Disconnect is no longer possible in the first place.
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I have no issue with what these survivors did, one of them did take a penalty to do that. If you can't legitimately down and hook 4 people maybe you just don't get your challenge done that round. Getting crappy in the last 5 minutes to accomplish your goal backfired, and I do not blame them one bit.
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He literally stated that they were bragging about it after. “That’s what you get for slugging” as a response to the hatch play.
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if you're gonna pull the EULA card, SWF on discord would be bannable to.
if someone is willing to DC to give another survivor the hatch after you slugged them for any significant amount of time, the egg is on YOUR face
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They probably didn't dc to give the other guy the hatch, they probably dc'ed cause they got bored laying on the floor for 4 minutes.
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It wasnt even 4 minutes i had him down for like 30 seconds at most before he dcd because his friend found hatch.
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Yes because right now it’s promoting DCs, which is something that should never happen in any video game. It’s very sad to see people defending DCing.
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Yes because right now it’s promoting DCs, which is something that should never happen in any video game. It’s very sad to see people defending DCing.
Quoting is broken right now so I am quoting like this, this is in reference to this post: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1337790/#Comment_1337790
When you disconnect you lose all your points. The survivor disconnecting to give the hatch will lose more points generally than the survivor getting the hatch gains by escaping. Outside of SWF this isn't really a thing either, and when one person in a SWF disconnects the entire party needs to wait out the DC timer. It's dumb that you can do it but I doubt that anything is going to be done about it as the DC penalty exists.
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DC yes, as for any reason.
Die on hook, no.
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You already get temporarily banned for DCing, they aren't going to add any sort of bans on top of an existing punishment system.
and also for those of you saying to report for DCing, please don't you bog up the report system with something that is automatically punished for, you're just making it easier for hackers to get away with stuff for longer by making their reports go unseen.
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DC already can lead to a ban if done too often
The reason of DC is irrelevent
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Yes because the killer is slugging the survivors for 4 minutes apparently.
In all the instances where I've seen survivors decide Tactical Disconnect, Incoming! is the strategy they're going to employ, the DC happens within 10 seconds of them being downed. If you're saying survivors don't have the patience to wait maybe 20 seconds (4 minutes at the most) they shouldn't be playing the game.
Or bring Unbreakable, or even No Mither. There's a few anti-slugging perks in the game.
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