You wouldn't have won without noed
Before you completely discredit a killers win because he used a perk that was meant for killers. Remember these situations
You would've been hit numerous times without dead hard
You would've been back on hook without ds and a locker whether the killer tunneled or not
You would've lost that chase completely without adrenaline
You wouldn't have escaped without a key
And finally you wouldn't have been hit with noed if you did totems.
So before you try to discredit a killers win because of one perk take a look at your own.
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Agreed.
The easy remedy for survivors is to cleanse those totems instead of ignoring them.
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Ehh both sides do it
"yoU WoulDnT hAve EscAPeD WiHtOuT yOuR cRutch PerKS
"YoU WoUlD HaVe LoSt WithOuT ThoSe toXIc Op AdDoNs"
Some people dont realise the point of perks and add ons is to help you win, smh
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simply you put a perk for a reason. The times I've won because ds, unbreakable or adrenaline are uncountable. Just accept this game is trash, since a single perk can completely change the outcome of the match.
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Just because the statement about the survivor perks is true, doesn't mean it makes the statement about NOED untrue. They're both crutches.
Yes, it is hypocritical to complain about NOED though when you're running all the second chance survivor perks.
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This^
Agree, they are both crutches.
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I agree with OP.
That said, I ran NOED as part of an end game build the otger night. I didnt get a single hate message. In fact one dude gave me kudos on the blood warden activation.
There of course are salty people that will always complain, but i think MOST people take issue when the killer first hook face camps, does that all game, and then also has noed. And truthfully, unless youre just messing around, if youre doing that specifically, youre probably not very good at the game.
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That's why "You only won because of X" arguments doesn't make much sense most of the time.
The most ridiculous thing I heard was "Without the traps you would have lost" while I was playing Trapper. Well, duh? Am I supposed to win without using my power?
This thing is valid for both sides, ofc.
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Unless people gained the ability to see into alternate timelines and nobody told me anything about that, these statements about how "you wouldn't have won without ___" were pulled out of someone's ass. In other words, they're full of #########.
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@Iceman Thank you, it's nice to be appreciated. My TED talk should come soon™.
@MegaWaffle He has the Time Stone, not the Reality Stone. Would've been better if you'd mentioned the possibility of him looking into parallel realities. 7/10 for effort.
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Literally Google searched "Dr. Strange meme" and just tossed it in here, so to still have received a 7/10 is well beyond my effort haha.
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Ehh, at least you have to press a button for DS and dead hard and you need timing etc.
Noed is just a super saiyan buff for free without having to do anything but having luck with an unfindable totem spot
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@MegaWaffle I removed my Vote Up because you tricked me.
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@DwightOP they played the whole match with 3 perks. Where do you get "without having to do anything"
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I dont use any of those perks, can i still blame the killer? But wait, i do totems, and get seldom hit by noed. Maybe i dont care.
But to reply go your thread Title "you wouldn´t have won without noed": Good thing he brought it, then. thats what it´s for.
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"I would have X, if it wasn't for Y" is in general a bad mindset if you ask me. It quickly leads to feeling like you "deserve" things prematurely.
"I would've escaped if you didn't have NOED", well you didn't escape.
"I would've 4Ked if you didn't get hatch", well they did get hatch.
It's in the game, and even if someone wants something changed... until it is changed, deal with it.
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Haha, stupid birds. You wouldn't have flown away without those wings!
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Fair points OP.
I took the hit because I don't run DH.
I ate the hook because I don't run DS.
I lost the chase because I don't run Adrenaline.
I don't run keys. Though I have escaped because I found them in chests.
I cleansed every totem I found. Still got hit with Noed.
You only won because I played nice. See how it can go both ways?
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The only I time I think I would have won if you didn't have "blank" is when the killer tunnel Moris and the team actually gets stuff done after that. I've had quite a few of games where the killer was using and ebony and killed someone early and the rest of us managed to get most of the gens done before dying in which I will always think, we would have won that game if not for that meddling Mori.
I don't so much mind the Ivory one but an Ebony Mori 2nd hook user is one of the only things in the game at the moment that feels extremely unfair to me.
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The amount of time I won without using Adrenaline/DS/Unbreakable/Dead Hard/Key, is just funny, I run BT for my teammates...except of that, it's perks for myself, so I guess NOED is just for players who sucks (my bad) at the game and wants easy wins
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Great, so remove or rework all of the perks/items you mentioned above. No single perk should have as huge an impact on the game as dead hard, decisive strike, noed, or adrenaline. It's infuriating to lose because your opponents brought a certain perk and not because they're better players than you.
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What about if they whiffed without the survivor having Dead Hard? Camped and didn't even get the 1k? Tunneled the newbie?
Would it then mean that No Ed created a crutch situation for them? Sorry but I'm not seeing what you're seeing.
The effect that you get from No Ed is massive (+4% movement speed, Expose), so I wouldn't compare it to other perks which a) don't require the other side to complete the objective to get it to proc. b) have no downside other than it being a hex which can be destroyed.
I'll accept that No Ed is in the game, but I won't accept that it made you a skill-full player.
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To quote one of my favourit German Fogwhisperer: "If you only make it due to Crutch Perks: You're not as good as you might think!"
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