Is Doctor a little too mad?

Dr_Loomis
Dr_Loomis Member Posts: 3,703
edited June 2020 in General Discussions

As a player who plays both killer and survivor, I believe the Doctor needs changes, and yes I mean a couple of nerfs. There's one or two things in his arsenal I feel are just not necessary. He could still be a very good killer. This is not a rant from a player who has his bottom smacked daily by the Doc, it's a rational observation.

Although I don't always have a terrible match against the Doctor, his range of abilities and effects are pretty over the top. He really is the perfect low-skill killer. With certain add-ons, an experienced player can make dog meat out of a team with little sweat spilt.

As a survivor, it's become a regular occurrence to be pitted against Doctor. He's such an easy option. He is a strong killer. When I play as survivor, and within 10 seconds I hear that familiar chase music...I just roll my eyes and think "Here we go again".

Doctor simply has too many weapons at his disposal. He's got far too many tools to hunt down survivors, and the survivors have far too much happening on their screens.

With survivors crying out and having their positions revealed without an ounce of skill involved, it makes playing covert survivor extremely difficult. Not to mention the simple 'hook survivor followed by static blast' tactic which blows the cover of any would-be rescuer nearby.

The Doctor can use shock therapy to disable a survivor long enough to pervent them vaulting or dropping a pallet. This is another powerful attribute in the Doc's repertoire.

When the madness effect kicks in, the screen goes appropriately insane. It really is madness. Then you have to 'snap out of it', leaving you prone until you do so.

The fake pallets are another obstacle with which the survivors are up against.

The fake Doctors that follow you round the map, which the Doctor can also see, are an extension on the postion giveaway factor. Doctor already has Static Blast, but with the fake Doctors there is even less chance of hiding.

The random screaming is another eye-ball roller, especially with a slugged dying state survivor screaming out...and giving their position and probably kissing goodbye to a possible hatch escape or heal.

These are my personal opinions on the changes needed. I think they're pretty reasonable:

-Disable the Doctor's ability to see fake Doctors. He already has Static Blast. That's sufficient for finding and tracking survivors. He doesn't need an added extra.

-Dying state survivors should not scream.

Comments

  • IMhereRUN
    IMhereRUN Member Posts: 606

    I play killer mostly. We all know killer is the weaker side, but your arguments are very valid and I support you for the sake of game balance.

  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2020

    Are you camping the pallets? His stun isn't as effective if you don't camp the pallet and keep looping. I think that's he has so many tracking abilities. He can find you quickly, but loops is where he needs to use skill to win.

    Also, I think we should hold back on any possible Doctor nerfs because dedicated servers screw him over. You don't have to just get the timing right, but you also have to beat the servers.

    In regards to your title, no. Doctor is not mad enough. You can never be too mad.

  • Siberia
    Siberia Member Posts: 353

    I mean, calm spirit can counter him but otherwise I really hate using that perk lol. I personally don’t like playing against the doctor (Least favorite for me) because he counters my stealth play-style so much. (And the constant screaming is a headache)

  • bingbongboi90
    bingbongboi90 Member Posts: 614

    You say he has many Powers but those Powers are hidden behind add-ons.

    Also the one that let the killer see their fake doctors.

    The doctor is fine right now and doesn't need Any nerfs.

  • Dr_Loomis
    Dr_Loomis Member Posts: 3,703

    That's a matter of opinion.

    And yes, his add-ons are strong.

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270
    edited June 2020

    Both the fake doctors and the fake pallets come from add-ons though, one from restraint and one from I think order. The survivor gets fake docs anyway but you only see them as well with restraint as far as I know.

    Downed survivors not screaming sounds reasonable enough though.

  • Antimon
    Antimon Member Posts: 85

    Just ######### learn to play Doctor so you actually understand his playstyle. Then reverse engeneer that into your survivor's playstyle and you'll win every. Time.

    If you get revealed by the Doctor, it's your ######### fault to begin with... I've managed to play against a doctor that completely decimated my team. I, on the other hand was always threading the needle and staying just outside of his TR enough so he doesn't Static Blast me. In chases, I understand the necessary distance to loop or drop a pallet prematurely. Either-way, I'm not a red rank survivor by any means, but I sure as hell know how to play against my main. If you're low skilled enough that you complain against doctor, then you're definitively in need of serious improvement.

    It's true that in low ranks, Doctor thrives because of his immense potential to have many different playstyles, one more annoying than the other. But as you get into higher ranks, there are only one or two playstyles actually worth using on him, which restricts his power immensely.

    I personally like playing a killer that isn't "meta" or like the other killers, I like mindgaming and torturing survivors, but I can't do that no more in red ranks... I have to actually try hard to win, I have to improve my mechanics and game sense.

    And honestly.. If you even fall for fake pallets, you must really have a problem up there in your neural network.. They're even worse than freddy's fake pallets.

    In summary:

    GIT GUD.

  • MusicNerd_TC
    MusicNerd_TC Member Posts: 3,099

    I agree with the 2 nerfs you suggested, but a low skill doctor won't be able to use the static blast effectively. Let's say a doc is running thrilling tremors and pop goes the weasel, when the doc downs someone, he does a static blast to shock survivors off of generators and trigger thrilling tremors, and pops the generator later. That is something a bit more complex about doctor. However dying survivors shouldn't scream, and maybe he shouldn't see his clones.

  • Antimon
    Antimon Member Posts: 85

    He doesn't see his clones (it's an addon that gives him the ability to see his clones). Without addons he's SO much weaker than with addons.

    A rational observation would focus on Spirit, Billy or any other Top tier killer, not a Mid tier killer that requires you to use maybe more than 2% of your braincells to play against. I actually have fun playing against Docs (my main).

  • Dr_Loomis
    Dr_Loomis Member Posts: 3,703

    Now now, potty mouth.

    And I'm perfectly 'gud', I assure you.