We're Gonna Live Forever and Kindred don't work with Pyramid's cages.

I think when the novelty wears off most pyramids will use the cages more sparingly. They have their uses but caging survivors is often less useful than hooking them, plus they'll want to activate their own perks which only work with hooks.

Except the killer knows (hopefully) that he will be in the game and pick perks based off of that. The survivors do not have the same luxury.

As with plague, as with freddy, the whole cage mechanic just straight up denying perks is lazy and awful game design. Only good part about the cages is the changed struggle phase. You have a very limited loadout as is, you should not have to gamble on being allowed to use it every other match. There is better ways to shake up metas.

Ah well. Spawning far away does not prevent the Killer from going there. Especially on small Maps you need to get lucky as Survivor to have another Survivor right next to you, otherwise Pyramid Head is there. But this was expected to happen, if DBD-Killers can tunnel, they will. Wasting time is relative, if you get a Survivor out of the Match early on by doing this you did not really waste any time.

Also, not using BBQ.. eh. First, you can torment Survivors and hook them, and then use the Cage (if the Rescuer does not have BT)... Or even use the Mini-Mori if they went to second stage. And still get the Stack.

And last but not least, the Killer decides his Build, but the Survivors dont decide the build based on the Killer. If I run BT and face a Pyramid Head who is only using Cages, nothing I can do. But a Pyramid Head who is running BBQ and PGTW and uses only cages had the choice to use a build for their Playstyle. If someone uses BBQ and PGTW and uses the Cages all of the time, it is entirely on them to not get any value out of their Perks.

(Long term I think Hooks will be better for Pyramid Head, because they give access to some good Perks and give more control about the hooked person. But if someone wants to play Pyramid Head to tunnel, they will have it easy)

Which better ways are there? Nerf meta perks?

If you buff weak perks, you get most likely even more imbalance in the game because the perks need to be stronger than current meta.

Btw it is not only gambling about Pyramid Head. Medkits against Plague is gambling, Iron Will against Stridor is gambling, even Blendette against Freddy is gambling (because of the shimmering in dream state). BT is also gambling against Freddy and every stealth killer that can easily deny th TR condition. I'm surely forgetting about even more gambling effects that are probably more common. With this mass of perks, status effects and killer powers it is pretty much the nature of the game that you run into situations where your loadout does not work as intended. Wait one or two weeks and Pyramid Head will be less frequently played, then it will be less of a "problem"

Yes buffing older, weaker perks is one is one of the obvious ways to do it. And I dont agree that this would bring imbalance at all. There should absolutely be a baseline for how powerful perks are and at the moment it swings waaay too much from the best to the worst. And there is far more ######### tier perks than good, on both sides. The more perks closer to each other in power level the more variance we would see in the "meta".

Ah yes, nothing like a passive aggressive response with baseless assumptions to my play style and perks of choice and not a single argument for or against the actual topic at hand.

Well if you roll a killer that makes all your chosen perks useless - you can always just ######### on first hook. They haven't taken that away - unless it's a cage then they force you to wait.

I've been hooking tormented survivors to keep them tormented bc it keeps them nervous and I can finish them off quicker later if necessary and avoid any endgame d-strikes. Cages can still be nice to save time but there's a good chance it'll teleport them next to the other survivors who can have them out and healed asap without having to go far from their gen.

I hit the ranged attack pretty consistently as well, which is surprising considering how much I suck with huntress + slinger. I'm loving him honestly.

Considering WGLF gives you a stack for untrapping, flashlight saves ect. I think it should also give a stack for saving from a cage, especially since the perk has literally no benefit within the match itself. Other perks I understand but I think an exception could be made for WGLF.

It does.

Probably a few weeks ago. But I sadly have no way to test it except for live games, because I only have one friend playing DBD.

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/155920/pyramid-heads-cage-mechanic-counters-too-many-perks-on-both-sides/p1

15 various pick up/carry/hook related perks it counters. "Change up your limited build choice or risk having parts of it not work at all" is not what I would call good incentive. Personally I think hard counters has no place in the game. Its lazy and as mentioned earlier it feels awful for the receiving end.

Self Care is a special case, its popular in solo because it gives the user full control over when and where to heal without reliance on the other solo survivors. Solo survivors tend to put their own survival over the teams survival.

As far as the meta list go, I agree, sounds about right in my experience too. And I think most of the perk collection being mediocre to straight up awful contributes a lot to this result.

As for killers with alternative play styles to play around, you can have that without a bunch of hard counters to perks.