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Tips playing against the Executioner
Oh boy.. this killer is.. something else. I always hated Spirit, and I still don't like her, but I can see why people like her and atleast it is a more engaging chase. After seeing the Executioner, I can safely say that I am over spirit. I found my new much hated killer, wowie. I'm not here to talk about "How OP" is is, because I don't think he is, but he is definetely pretty overloaded.
To get to the topic: Has anyone maybe some perks to suggest or can tell me how to play against him?
Because I never had a killer that boring and annoying to play against (except the old Legion). U know, I can see that looping is not everything (even tho it's the most interesting part of the game), so I am not really trying to loop him. I run to a loop, try to break line of sight and run to the next loop and if he hits me, I just run as far as I can. It's not really interesting to me, but I guess it works sometimes.
You know the thing is that he gets played like Deathslinger 2.0 (wow fun). I get bloodlusted and he fakes his ability if I am near a window and palett. So whatever I do, I get nothing. He is 4.6 m/s fast and because is range attack shares the same button like the other ability you can't tell if he is using is range ability now or not. His range attack is not impossible to dodge but I feel like its bigger than on the ptb and it's imo hard to dodge- especially if you are not far away. And don't worry, if he's missing once, he can use the range attack 4 times again. And if he misses and you chose to run away to get some distance, don't worry, the RNG on DbD helps you with areas with nothing.
So after looking at this, I think the only "smart" way to play against him is to get as much distance, don't use anything, try to keep loosing line of sight and run as far as possible after that. Maybe perks like Spine Chill, Sprint Burst and Urban could help I think. But I'm not sure and I really don't like running the meta build. (My go to build is most of the time Bond, Open Handed, Kindred and maybe something like Plunderers or one of the new perks)
Don't get me wrong- the way most Executioner Players are playing a smart way. It's nothing new, Demo or Deathslinger players play the same way. But they are more limited than the executioner. I'm still having trouble and It's not really fun or interesting to play against him, but I kinda want to adept.
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Then explain me how I avoid those situation if I get chased. He is a 4.6 m/s Killer. If I use a window or a palett I get hit. If I just keep running instead of using the palett he's gonna fake it and I get hit. I know that the ability is hard to use for him, but I don't see much outplay potential from my side if he's gonna play it safe u know.
Atleast I am allowed to use a palett against a spirit :<
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So even if this is working once at the killer shack, let's say I dropped the palett early, not every loop is gonna be like this. Killer shack is the only safe place then. How about a long wall window with the palett? If I drop the palett early he's just gonna bloodlust me like on every other loop. And especially the new maps are unsafe as hell. So, I kinda get what you are saying but you can't use that everywhere. And the most Executioners I get are mostly avoiding palett stuns, bloodlusting you and faking the power until you have to use the window/palett or you atleast get M1.
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Thats a good point tho, but do he really need to strafe? I should maybe record a match, so I can ask for more specefic tips.
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I just found one match against the executioner and it was as expected boring.
Chase: 0:22 and 5:23
I really tried using your advice and I think it kinda worked with the early drop, but as expected it doesn't really help. Just ignore paletts and bloodlust and you get a safe hit. I recorded all matches until I found a Executioner, so I uploaded this two matches so you can see how I play.
So here is a match against a hillbilly and for example look at the chase at 1:08. Maybe you can tell me now better what I should change to get better.
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Can someone please give me some tips or anything, because I getting more frustrated each day when I have to face him. The chases are just annoying and he is perfectly designed to tunnel and camp someone. With certain range addons he can cancel every loop. And as I already said, just fake the ability and hit the survivor or fake the ability until the survivor runs through a palett or uses a window and hit them with it. There is until now imo no counter. Even spirit is more fun because I am alowed to use a damn palett. Its the same with deathslinger but he has some counters. You have no time to react at its taking the fun away.
Okay, enough cry cry killer OP #########, but actually, I really want some tips to have better chances or understanding to go against him.
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I'm having the same issues trying to counter PH right now. I watched your first video (both chases) and I think you did a pretty good job buying time there; and that's really all you can do as a survivor: buy time. Any survivor will go down eventually against a decent Killer, it's only a matter of when. I've been trying different techniques against PH lately and the best I've been able to come up with are as follows:
1. Play "immersed" when he's approaching and try to avoid, or at least delay, when the chase begins. I've been able to avoid confrontations enough to make me think this is fairly reliable. Of course, RNG, map, perks (Whispers) are going to have an effect on this strategy.
2. I've been equipping Spine Chill and Sprint Burst and just booking it outta Dodge when I know he's headed my direction (usually Spine Chill stays lit up). No stealthing around here, I'm just trying to put distance between us at that point; make it look like he's starting a chase he knows he doesn't want to commit to. But... if there's nothing else grabbing his attention he'll commit anyway. And yes, dropping certain pallets early can definitely be beneficial.
In my experience, when PH gets close and decides to use his ranged attack he doesn't slow down enough to really make much difference. Like many people, I know that I probably just need more experience to figure it out.
Question: I was playing a game the other day against PH and messed up, I didn't fast-vault a pallet and consequently the Killer missed his ranged attack (I was still crawling on the pallet). While rare, I also assume this is working as intended? 'Cause that's interesting, opens up the door for a few other possible plays.
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He's stronger when a pallet is up than when it is down. If you can make him miss at a loop then I'd say drop the pallet. If he's smart he'll destroy the pallet but if he's dumb he'll keep trying to hit you through the loop.
As killer you only want to use your ability when your guaranteed to get a hit. Otherwise fake since it's extremely strong.
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My advice is just wait a month or two. You only hate him now because he's common, just like people with the new map. You even mentioned Deathslinger and before that it was probably Oni right?
Dbd is unfortunately just a salt factory lol
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Avoid getting torment at all costs - easier said than done due to getting tormented by invisible trenches or trenches that decay and hit you anyway before they go. I've completed half a gen next to a trench without issue, then suddenly when it fully decayed - bam, hit with torment.
So avoid torment trails even if it means going down. It just shuts down way too many perks - Borrowed Time, Decisive Strike, We'll Make It, Adrenaline, Deliverance, etc.
With loops you can dodge his aoe, but you'll probably have to throw the pallet early. Some like to dig a trench right at the pallet...so I throw it and make him break it, then just get distance. Probably your best bet if you cannot break line of sight just get distance anyway you can.
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Best way to counter him is by playing in 16-20 ranks actually lmao.
I cant take people seriously saying hes a bad killer, of course i would say the same if the killer its really bad at the game. He is a better huntress with braindead baits. No skill required playing this dude, hope he gets ash'd (making something OP then nerf it for the money) or we are #########.
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Thank you so much for your thoughts. It kinda shows me that I wasn't wrong and I have some new faith and Ideas when facing him. I really hope I can adept to that. :)
Tbh It's because he is new and you have to learn playing against him. I never hated Oni or Demo. And It's less about how strong they are (Because I never hated Huntress or Nurse) it's about how much Skill a Killer takes and how players like me and the killer can effect the chase. Spirit got hate because she was basically a Killer designed to player Multiplayer Game Solo. Deathslinger is annoying because of the same thing with Spirit when she is standing still: You can't tell if he is using his power or not. He just gonna spam M2 and shot you if he gets a garenteed hit. But Deathslinger has some counters, so it feels more fair imo. He doesn't ignore mechanics like crazy. But the Executioner does ignore so much and it goes to that direction where it feels like the Killer is playing a Solo Game if it comes to a chase. (This is now a bit exaggerated but I hope you understand what I mean.)
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The only thing consistently good about PHs power is the 50 50 mindgame.
The range and sensitivity are so janky, and its so easy to dodge.
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Its noteasy to dodge when the killer bloodlusts you until you are run to a window or palett. Just fake the power: Survivor runs through and gets hit. Survivors uses Window/Palett and gets hit due the ability.
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When I face him I try to avoid letting him find me in the first place, and when he does, try to loose him as much as possible. Like you, i've noticed that against a decent PH you tend to get hit at a loop no matter what you do. If you lock yourself into an animation, he'll use his ranged to get a free hit. If you instead fake it, he'll just M1 you.
I'm not gonna say he is OP or anything, since he's still new. I just haven't reliably been able to do anything at a loop besides hoping the PH player messes up. Thankfully a lot of people still seem to be trying to hit with his ranged when they shouldn't, and that buys me a little time to run away and attempt to sneak away.
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I do the opposite. I fake it like he can make it and juke his slow ranged attacks. It highlights a second before where it lands so in many cases it's an easy juke.
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Sprint burst might be a good idea to get some distance. The rest falls on your teammates. If they're decent, a couple gens will pop while he's chasing you.
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Okay, after playing some time against him I am pretty sure that he's OP. You are not allowed to vault or use a palett if you have to small distance. He can counter most perks with his ability and he's 4.6 m/s fast as killer. Just constantly fake your ability and the survivors can't do anything against you.
Besides that, the matchmaking is broken as hell making Solo Q way more frustrating to play. I am rank 1 and I always get rank 4-7 players who didn't even reached rank 1 in her entire life probably.
No wonder people are always playing SWF with meta builds if you have to face matches like that in Solo Q.
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