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The Camping "Epidemic"....

Get camped? Did it suck? Was it fun?

I bet the answers are yes, yes, and no... or hell no.

Getting camped isn't fun. It also has a place in a game. Let me explain.

Please.

Camping isn't fun, but isn't that common at the same time. Yes it happens. I camp people at times, and sometimes I get camped as well. It's apart of the experience sometimes and while it isn't "fun"... it just happens. There's tools to run in order to prevent this.

The recent unhook changes, and animation changes have helped this. Having "unlimited" Borrowed Time have helped this also. I'm not saying it isn't frustrating but I'm saying... if a killer is camping, then there's things you guys can do about it.

Survivors too often act as if their game is hijacked if someone is being camped. So there's usually 2 people around a hook while the killer is camping. And they'll stay there.

THe killer might notice one of them and hit someone, and they'll run off. He'll remain at the hook if he's camping. During that hit, this was time for someone else to go in for a rescue... or better yet this:

This: If a killer is camping someone... then do gens. Rush those gens. It is a counter to it if you don't have BT. You can easily get 2 or 3 gens done for 1 person being hooked.

For the person that got camped... sure there's no recourse for his time and fun, and it sucks, but the killer should suffer the gen rush for camping. How likely do I get camped hard for the full hook duration? Not often.

I'd say 1/20 or so trials I get camped hardcore. That isn't high.

As a killer main I do camp when I need to. My object if to kill 4 survivors and let no one escape. So I try to do that if I can.

For example. This happened today.


I was Wraith. I downed someone close to my totem, where a gen and hook were. I hooked them. Within 15 or 20 meters in game... we had 1 hooked survivor, hex ruin totem, gen.

If I leave this area... this is what likely happens.

Unhook, heal, hex ruin gone.

So got 1 hook, I lose hex ruin. Not going to happen. And here's the icing on the cake....

I saw someone lurking around the hook... which kept me there. I'm not going to leave the area. I tried to loosely leave a couple times, but patrolled... and saw people kept creeping up. So I stayed around. 1 person hooked, 1 person injured somewhere, and 1 person creeping up.

So I assumed 1 person was on a gen... and they were. DUring this entire thing I did camp, but I really had to. 2 gens were done in total, and I got 1 person dead. My ruin was still up and I chased someone who was too stubborn to leave... and I ended up hooking them elsewhere... and ruin goes down asap.

1 person dead, 1 person hooked, 2 people doing whatever, ruin gone.

3 gens to go. We have a fun game. My point is that sometimes... a killer camps because he has to. I play to win, and of course I have fun most of the time. Too many times before I would get the occasional WRAITH game where they were super coordinated and annoying.

No more of this. Wraith is not a joke any longer... and when I've got a hook next to ruin and a gen. I'm staying.

Camping isn't this thing that breaks the game. It is needed and used at times to benefit the concept of "not surviving by daylight".

Comments

  • BigBadPiggy
    BigBadPiggy Member Posts: 678

    The only times I camp is when 1 gen is left and is about to pop, or that survivor was making it unfair for the others or just overall being a douche to the others. I don't want survivors like that in my match ruining it for everyone else.

  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437

    Get camped? Did it suck? Was it fun?

    I bet the answers are yes, yes, and no... or hell no.

    Getting camped isn't fun. It also has a place in a game. Let me explain.

    Please.

    Camping isn't fun, but isn't that common at the same time. Yes it happens. I camp people at times, and sometimes I get camped as well. It's apart of the experience sometimes and while it isn't "fun"... it just happens. There's tools to run in order to prevent this.

    The recent unhook changes, and animation changes have helped this. Having "unlimited" Borrowed Time have helped this also. I'm not saying it isn't frustrating but I'm saying... if a killer is camping, then there's things you guys can do about it.

    Survivors too often act as if their game is hijacked if someone is being camped. So there's usually 2 people around a hook while the killer is camping. And they'll stay there.

    THe killer might notice one of them and hit someone, and they'll run off. He'll remain at the hook if he's camping. During that hit, this was time for someone else to go in for a rescue... or better yet this:

    This: If a killer is camping someone... then do gens. Rush those gens. It is a counter to it if you don't have BT. You can easily get 2 or 3 gens done for 1 person being hooked.

    For the person that got camped... sure there's no recourse for his time and fun, and it sucks, but the killer should suffer the gen rush for camping. How likely do I get camped hard for the full hook duration? Not often.

    I'd say 1/20 or so trials I get camped hardcore. That isn't high.

    As a killer main I do camp when I need to. My object if to kill 4 survivors and let no one escape. So I try to do that if I can.

    For example. This happened today.


    I was Wraith. I downed someone close to my totem, where a gen and hook were. I hooked them. Within 15 or 20 meters in game... we had 1 hooked survivor, hex ruin totem, gen.

    If I leave this area... this is what likely happens.

    Unhook, heal, hex ruin gone.

    So got 1 hook, I lose hex ruin. Not going to happen. And here's the icing on the cake....

    I saw someone lurking around the hook... which kept me there. I'm not going to leave the area. I tried to loosely leave a couple times, but patrolled... and saw people kept creeping up. So I stayed around. 1 person hooked, 1 person injured somewhere, and 1 person creeping up.

    So I assumed 1 person was on a gen... and they were. DUring this entire thing I did camp, but I really had to. 2 gens were done in total, and I got 1 person dead. My ruin was still up and I chased someone who was too stubborn to leave... and I ended up hooking them elsewhere... and ruin goes down asap.

    1 person dead, 1 person hooked, 2 people doing whatever, ruin gone.

    3 gens to go. We have a fun game. My point is that sometimes... a killer camps because he has to. I play to win, and of course I have fun most of the time. Too many times before I would get the occasional WRAITH game where they were super coordinated and annoying.

    No more of this. Wraith is not a joke any longer... and when I've got a hook next to ruin and a gen. I'm staying.

    Camping isn't this thing that breaks the game. It is needed and used at times to benefit the concept of "not surviving by daylight".


    does this apply to using the basement as a lure for trapping players inside it like I run nc whisper unrelenting and lullaby when I get a ebony Mori I will run ti instead of unrelenting simple to trap them with a easy Mori kill lol once I had 3 people hooked killed 2 in basement hooks due to saves right there rest outside or other times caught people healing (i check weather im running nc or not) I often find them healing or in a locker and one time I got called a try hard camper not my fault you hid 2 times in a locker instead of legging it all you do I be easy bate and kills so get used to it from a competent killer setting a trap and plan accordingly to it and don't be a pretzel if the killer checks every 30-60 seconds especially if they see red nearby and never ever think a killer uses the basement for a hard kill its trapping

  • Dwight_Confusion
    Dwight_Confusion Member Posts: 1,649

    @fcc2014 said:
    Is this a justification thread?

    This is a logical... this is why we do it thread.

    ;)

  • Dwight_Confusion
    Dwight_Confusion Member Posts: 1,649

    @redsopine1 said:
    Dwight_Confusion said:

    Get camped? Did it suck? Was it fun?

    I bet the answers are yes, yes, and no... or hell no.

    Getting camped isn't fun. It also has a place in a game. Let me explain.

    Please.

    Camping isn't fun, but isn't that common at the same time. Yes it happens. I camp people at times, and sometimes I get camped as well. It's apart of the experience sometimes and while it isn't "fun"... it just happens. There's tools to run in order to prevent this.

    The recent unhook changes, and animation changes have helped this. Having "unlimited" Borrowed Time have helped this also. I'm not saying it isn't frustrating but I'm saying... if a killer is camping, then there's things you guys can do about it.

    Survivors too often act as if their game is hijacked if someone is being camped. So there's usually 2 people around a hook while the killer is camping. And they'll stay there.

    THe killer might notice one of them and hit someone, and they'll run off. He'll remain at the hook if he's camping. During that hit, this was time for someone else to go in for a rescue... or better yet this:

    This: If a killer is camping someone... then do gens. Rush those gens. It is a counter to it if you don't have BT. You can easily get 2 or 3 gens done for 1 person being hooked.

    For the person that got camped... sure there's no recourse for his time and fun, and it sucks, but the killer should suffer the gen rush for camping. How likely do I get camped hard for the full hook duration? Not often.

    I'd say 1/20 or so trials I get camped hardcore. That isn't high.

    As a killer main I do camp when I need to. My object if to kill 4 survivors and let no one escape. So I try to do that if I can.

    For example. This happened today.

    I was Wraith. I downed someone close to my totem, where a gen and hook were. I hooked them. Within 15 or 20 meters in game... we had 1 hooked survivor, hex ruin totem, gen.

    If I leave this area... this is what likely happens.

    Unhook, heal, hex ruin gone.

    So got 1 hook, I lose hex ruin. Not going to happen. And here's the icing on the cake....

    I saw someone lurking around the hook... which kept me there. I'm not going to leave the area. I tried to loosely leave a couple times, but patrolled... and saw people kept creeping up. So I stayed around. 1 person hooked, 1 person injured somewhere, and 1 person creeping up.

    So I assumed 1 person was on a gen... and they were. DUring this entire thing I did camp, but I really had to. 2 gens were done in total, and I got 1 person dead. My ruin was still up and I chased someone who was too stubborn to leave... and I ended up hooking them elsewhere... and ruin goes down asap.

    1 person dead, 1 person hooked, 2 people doing whatever, ruin gone.

    3 gens to go. We have a fun game. My point is that sometimes... a killer camps because he has to. I play to win, and of course I have fun most of the time. Too many times before I would get the occasional WRAITH game where they were super coordinated and annoying.

    No more of this. Wraith is not a joke any longer... and when I've got a hook next to ruin and a gen. I'm staying.

    Camping isn't this thing that breaks the game. It is needed and used at times to benefit the concept of "not surviving by daylight".

    does this apply to using the basement as a lure for trapping players inside it like I run nc whisper unrelenting and lullaby when I get a ebony Mori I will run ti instead of unrelenting simple to trap them with a easy Mori kill lol once I had 3 people hooked killed 2 in basement hooks due to saves right there rest outside or other times caught people healing (i check weather im running nc or not) I often find them healing or in a locker and one time I got called a try hard camper not my fault you hid 2 times in a locker instead of legging it all you do I be easy bate and kills so get used to it from a competent killer setting a trap and plan accordingly to it and don't be a pretzel if the killer checks every 30-60 seconds especially if they see red nearby and never ever think a killer uses the basement for a hard kill its trapping

    basement plays are totally fine.

    If someone gets downed near as basement... camping is 100% legit and acceptable.

    1. Don't get downed. (Survivor error)
    2. Don't get downed near a basement.
    3. It is your fault for being around the killer's basement.

    People act like getting downed around the basement then them not getting out easily is camping. YOU ARE IN THE BASEMENT of a deranged killer.

    you do not deserve to get out. Ever.

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388
    I understand why camping and tunneling are part of the game. Strategy and in some cases lack of trust in that players skill. I just was curious if this was post this and watch the rage roll in post.
  • Dwight_Confusion
    Dwight_Confusion Member Posts: 1,649

    @fcc2014 said:
    I understand why camping and tunneling are part of the game. Strategy and in some cases lack of trust in that players skill. I just was curious if this was post this and watch the rage roll in post.

    No. This was supposed to be an informative, collective thought post... where people can see it logically and objectively.

    I mean I hate getting camped too. I'm not going to sit here and act like I enjoy it. It sucks. It also is apart of things. It's a free play, free spirit game... 4v1

    No holds barred. I love it.

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  • lyric
    lyric Member Posts: 611
    Vankruze said:

    I think survivors just hate it when a killer camps them to death on their first hook.

    I think it’s more of they just get hooked for the first time with no one around and no reason to camp and the killer does it anyway, for some even if the gens all were popping it ruins the game for that person who for no reason at all had some Leatherface standing in front of him with the chainsaw rev, and I’m not saying this is every killer because most of the time it’s not always this  but I’d say about 25% of the time on PS4 camping is gonna happen if you’re the first caught and if you are camped I recommend everyone just do gens and if it’s possible to rip them off before they struggle go for it and give it another go getting tunneled, maybe get away or maybe get chased down in borrowed time and start the process over, sometimes you’re gonna die and buying time is all you’ve got to give.
  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437

    @redsopine1 said:
    Dwight_Confusion said:

    Get camped? Did it suck? Was it fun?

    I bet the answers are yes, yes, and no... or hell no.

    Getting camped isn't fun. It also has a place in a game. Let me explain.

    Please.

    Camping isn't fun, but isn't that common at the same time. Yes it happens. I camp people at times, and sometimes I get camped as well. It's apart of the experience sometimes and while it isn't "fun"... it just happens. There's tools to run in order to prevent this.

    The recent unhook changes, and animation changes have helped this. Having "unlimited" Borrowed Time have helped this also. I'm not saying it isn't frustrating but I'm saying... if a killer is camping, then there's things you guys can do about it.

    Survivors too often act as if their game is hijacked if someone is being camped. So there's usually 2 people around a hook while the killer is camping. And they'll stay there.

    THe killer might notice one of them and hit someone, and they'll run off. He'll remain at the hook if he's camping. During that hit, this was time for someone else to go in for a rescue... or better yet this:

    This: If a killer is camping someone... then do gens. Rush those gens. It is a counter to it if you don't have BT. You can easily get 2 or 3 gens done for 1 person being hooked.

    For the person that got camped... sure there's no recourse for his time and fun, and it sucks, but the killer should suffer the gen rush for camping. How likely do I get camped hard for the full hook duration? Not often.

    I'd say 1/20 or so trials I get camped hardcore. That isn't high.

    As a killer main I do camp when I need to. My object if to kill 4 survivors and let no one escape. So I try to do that if I can.

    For example. This happened today.

    I was Wraith. I downed someone close to my totem, where a gen and hook were. I hooked them. Within 15 or 20 meters in game... we had 1 hooked survivor, hex ruin totem, gen.

    If I leave this area... this is what likely happens.

    Unhook, heal, hex ruin gone.

    So got 1 hook, I lose hex ruin. Not going to happen. And here's the icing on the cake....

    I saw someone lurking around the hook... which kept me there. I'm not going to leave the area. I tried to loosely leave a couple times, but patrolled... and saw people kept creeping up. So I stayed around. 1 person hooked, 1 person injured somewhere, and 1 person creeping up.

    So I assumed 1 person was on a gen... and they were. DUring this entire thing I did camp, but I really had to. 2 gens were done in total, and I got 1 person dead. My ruin was still up and I chased someone who was too stubborn to leave... and I ended up hooking them elsewhere... and ruin goes down asap.

    1 person dead, 1 person hooked, 2 people doing whatever, ruin gone.

    3 gens to go. We have a fun game. My point is that sometimes... a killer camps because he has to. I play to win, and of course I have fun most of the time. Too many times before I would get the occasional WRAITH game where they were super coordinated and annoying.

    No more of this. Wraith is not a joke any longer... and when I've got a hook next to ruin and a gen. I'm staying.

    Camping isn't this thing that breaks the game. It is needed and used at times to benefit the concept of "not surviving by daylight".

    does this apply to using the basement as a lure for trapping players inside it like I run nc whisper unrelenting and lullaby when I get a ebony Mori I will run ti instead of unrelenting simple to trap them with a easy Mori kill lol once I had 3 people hooked killed 2 in basement hooks due to saves right there rest outside or other times caught people healing (i check weather im running nc or not) I often find them healing or in a locker and one time I got called a try hard camper not my fault you hid 2 times in a locker instead of legging it all you do I be easy bate and kills so get used to it from a competent killer setting a trap and plan accordingly to it and don't be a pretzel if the killer checks every 30-60 seconds especially if they see red nearby and never ever think a killer uses the basement for a hard kill its trapping

    basement plays are totally fine.

    If someone gets downed near as basement... camping is 100% legit and acceptable.

    1. Don't get downed. (Survivor error)
    2. Don't get downed near a basement.
    3. It is your fault for being around the killer's basement.

    People act like getting downed around the basement then them not getting out easily is camping. YOU ARE IN THE BASEMENT of a deranged killer.

    you do not deserve to get out. Ever.

    Thank you finally someone gets both the strategy /FU to toxic swf groups (strategy to everyone FU to the toxics)